... homemade journal ...

[TMLee]

Never say die ...

i am still bent on trying out an embossed cover of a lead-lined window ...

 

continuing the matching pair of journals bearing monogramed initials ...

and spurred on by a recent find of MacKintosh's typeface ...

 

I did some concept sketches of some window designs to try and match the typeface initilals ...

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settled on this one ...

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redrew the picture onto thin greyboard

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and drew over the lines with a bullet tipped marker.

somehow the thickness of the marker line was just matching in size with the alphabets "LK"

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I then proceeded to cut out the window ...

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I had in mind to place the emboss on the rear cover bcos

the band closure (when deployed) will interfere with the embossed design if it were to be on the front cover...

This is what the journal will look like - opened and face down ...

The window needs to be off-centre to make way for the stitches ..

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now with the "LK" cutout ...

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Glued into position on the rear coverboard ...

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I think I was too hasty , bcos now I have a problem - how to glue the bookcloth over ?

The square cutouts, I think , are too tiny for the bookcloth to 'hug' the recesses perfectly ?

I dare not proceed now bcos I think it will be a problem...

will experiment on a dummy piece first ...

 

I was thinking if worse comes to worse, then I may just use plain fabric.

But its not as nice as bookcloth - the feel and the texture ...

 

How do I get the material to reach the recesses?

Wet the bookcloth first ?

Any advice appreciated ...

[pen2paper]

from #677 it appears there must be some flex/stretch to he book fabric?

how much "work" time do you have before the glue sets? can you give extra allowance (slack) at the edges? then work the stretch/slack INwards Towards the center, then adjusting back to the edge whatever slack remains? or is to Touch the fabric on to the board a One-shot commitment?

love the design.. the balance of the tight-multi-part upper area, more open area lower containing the initials is spot on! imho : )

[ru32day]

I don't know whether it would work, but have you tried a steamer? I suggest this because I think it could relax the fabric with heat and water without burning or ruining the nap. I haven't tried what you're doing so this is a thought, not a recommendation from experience.

[Daisy]

 

 

I think I was too hasty , bcos now I have a problem - how to glue the bookcloth over ?

The square cutouts, I think , are too tiny for the bookcloth to 'hug' the recesses perfectly ?

I dare not proceed now bcos I think it will be a problem...

will experiment on a dummy piece first ...

 

I was thinking if worse comes to worse, then I may just use plain fabric.

But its not as nice as bookcloth - the feel and the texture ...

 

How do I get the material to reach the recesses?

Wet the bookcloth first ?

Any advice appreciated ...

 

Hey, TM Lee!

 

If you use bookcloth (IF bookcloth can actually be used successfully in this project) you would have the best luck working on the bias* in VERY small sections, starting at one end and ending at the other or maybe working from the center out (perhaps over a period of days) gluing only a centimeter or so at a time, or whatever amount of material can be successfully manipulated before the next gluing tries to pull it out. Pen2paper had some really great advice!

 

Me, I'd ditch the bookcloth altogether for now and head down to my local fabric shop for a tight *knit*, something that will wear well and yet has the "give" to get into all the little corners. A knit will do that for you. Think of a T-shirt, and how it stretches and gives: that's a knit. All natural or synthetic, doesn't matter, but wash and dry it before you work with it. A straight weave like that of your bookcloth (or even a very light cotton) just doesn't have the stretch lengthwise to give you anything but grief.

 

***Working "on the bias" means that you lay the fabric diagonally to your project: it gives you the absolute most flex available in the fabric. Since your amazing design (I love it!!!) is all verticals and horizontals, laying the fabric at a 45 degree angle to it -- so that the grain is diagonal to your design lines -- will give you the best results possible. I'd still go for a knit, though, to be honest -- working on the bias may be successful, but bookcloth doesn't seem like a good forgiving sort of starter material like a knit would be.

 

Good luck!!!

[Daisy]

I don't know whether it would work, but have you tried a steamer? I suggest this because I think it could relax the fabric with heat and water without burning or ruining the nap. I haven't tried what you're doing so this is a thought, not a recommendation from experience.

 

This sounds like a great idea too, but test it first to be sure it doesn't warp your boards in the process: a good steam will relax more than the fabric. Maybe wetting it would be enough? Don't know, but I think you need to make a couple of small test boards to try your ideas before you attack the main projest...

 

Good luck!!!

[pen2paper]

Bias! stretching on the bias...

yes, Daisy that's the single word I was searching for in my lengthy post!

 

what about raw silk? this has rather a loose nubby weave.. filmier than book fabric.. would look gorgeous on a journal..

ought to be available in TM's locale. (feel like I'm really intruding with overfiring brain cells here )

but, the frame that TM has cut reminds me of Tiffany .. thinking colorful silk

 

 

[Daisy]

what about raw silk? this has rather a loose nubby weave.. filmier than book fabric.. would look gorgeous on a journal..

 

Oooh, that *would* be pretty! Oh my goodness, you said that and I saw a pearl white or champagne colored dupioni silk journal in my head. It could never leave the house but my, wouldn't it be gorgeous!

 

On a technical note, he might have to (spray?)paint the boards first, though, to prevent see through...

[TMLee]

from #677 it appears there must be some flex/stretch to he book fabric?

how much "work" time do you have before the glue sets? can you give extra allowance (slack) at the edges? then work the stretch/slack INwards Towards the center, then adjusting back to the edge whatever slack remains? or is to Touch the fabric on to the board a One-shot commitment?

love the design.. the balance of the tight-multi-part upper area, more open area lower containing the initials is spot on! imho : )

 

Thanks ,

there is not much stretch actually.

I glue straight on without waiting, maybe I shld change the way I glue it on, ie , glue in small sections till the bookcloth hugs each corner and recess well before moving on ...

[TMLee]

I don't know whether it would work, but have you tried a steamer? I suggest this because I think it could relax the fabric with heat and water without burning or ruining the nap. I haven't tried what you're doing so this is a thought, not a recommendation from experience.

 

Thanks , haven't tried this before .

I think its risky ...

[TMLee]

Hey, TM Lee!

 

If you use bookcloth (IF bookcloth can actually be used successfully in this project) you would have the best luck working on the bias* in VERY small sections, starting at one end and ending at the other or maybe working from the center out (perhaps over a period of days) gluing only a centimeter or so at a time, or whatever amount of material can be successfully manipulated before the next gluing tries to pull it out. Pen2paper had some really great advice!

 

Me, I'd ditch the bookcloth altogether for now and head down to my local fabric shop for a tight *knit*, something that will wear well and yet has the "give" to get into all the little corners. A knit will do that for you. Think of a T-shirt, and how it stretches and gives: that's a knit. All natural or synthetic, doesn't matter, but wash and dry it before you work with it. A straight weave like that of your bookcloth (or even a very light cotton) just doesn't have the stretch lengthwise to give you anything but grief.

 

***Working "on the bias" means that you lay the fabric diagonally to your project: it gives you the absolute most flex available in the fabric. Since your amazing design (I love it!!!) is all verticals and horizontals, laying the fabric at a 45 degree angle to it -- so that the grain is diagonal to your design lines -- will give you the best results possible. I'd still go for a knit, though, to be honest -- working on the bias may be successful, but bookcloth doesn't seem like a good forgiving sort of starter material like a knit would be.

 

Good luck!!!

 

Thanks, yes I agree with you - something with stretch will definitely help.

I think wetting the bookcloth will give it that little stretch that is much needed .....

[TMLee]

what about raw silk? this has rather a loose nubby weave.. filmier than book fabric.. would look gorgeous on a journal..

 

Oooh, that *would* be pretty! Oh my goodness, you said that and I saw a pearl white or champagne colored dupioni silk journal in my head. It could never leave the house but my, wouldn't it be gorgeous!

 

On a technical note, he might have to (spray?)paint the boards first, though, to prevent see through...

 

Yes I have silk ..., will try it out soon ....

[TMLee]

Tried a few dry-runs ...

 

This one is GEMATEX bookcloth - a high quality thicker bookcloth.

The thickness of the bookcloth makes it hard for it to hug the recesses well...

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This is a brand-less local bookcloth.

Its thinner and you can immediately see that it hugs the recesses better.

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Wetting the bookcloth must be done carefully.

The water here spilled onto the right surface and caused the bookcloth to shrink from its paper backing.

What I learnt here is that the backing needs to be dampened but its bookcloth surface must not touch water...

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This is SAIFU bookcloth in Salmon Pink ...

A very nice hue ...

This bookcloth is purportedly high quality.

I also notice that it is thinner than the 2 above.

The paper backing here is thinner.

The results are good.

I wet the backing carefully with a small brush taking care to keep the bookcloth surface dry.

While damp , I then glued it onto the pattern.

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The results are promising.

My guess is to improve on technique.

 

 

This is silk

A deep mauve hue.

The other silk is green underneath.

Unfortunately I don't have a champagne hue....

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It is thin and there's a lot of stretch .

It hugs the recesses perfectly.

But I don't like its looks.

Somehow it doesn't look good on a journal...

Maybe its just me.

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I am attracted to the SAIFU Salmon Pink sample above.

It looks good.

A nice feminine shade of colour too.

The hue is not too dark such that you cannot perceive the emboss.

Lighter colours work better bcos you can see the shadows and relief.

The beige bookcloth sample above is also good in hugging the recesses but its hue is a little too unexciting.

 

At this moment , I am thinking most likely I may execute with the SAIFU Salmon Pink bookcloth.

And while I do that , I need to employ a different technique as suggested above - maybe glue progressively , in little sections .

Edited December 28, 2010 by TMLee

[pen2paper]

the salmon is just wonderful..

it's so generous of you to engage us (entertain our thoughts), in your creative process..

the green silk is quite beautiful.. green and purples together - so rich and earthy.

us? > me.. Daisy does know of what she speaks... my art/crafts studies are from years and years ago.

in any event, Thank you! this is so enjoyable.

[Daisy]

Wow! That was a lot faster than I expected. Great practice boards!!! I liked the beige bookcloth the best in the pictures, I thought it rendered the embossing the best, though the salmon is quite nice as well. I agree that the silk doesn't work well for the embossing/debossing -- I didn't think this possible! But the natural light-play in the silk detracts from the more subtle light-play in the embossing, not a good effect. I'd still take a silk on a flat cover any day, though.

 

Your efforts are continuously inspiring! Using your ideas I actually made a little hardcover for a little No. 5 Rhodia pad that I have that I wanted to stay closed in my purse. It turned out well -- mat board, paper cover, tucked a little elastic band onto it and everything -- but I must say it was harder to do than it first appeared! (If I ever get my camera out again I'll take pictures, but it probably won't be soon, sorry.) I now carry it in my purse and it's a perfect fit. So I owe you thanks for inspiring me to do that.

 

Keep up the good work!!!

[TMLee]

the salmon is just wonderful..

it's so generous of you to engage us (entertain our thoughts), in your creative process..

the green silk is quite beautiful.. green and purples together - so rich and earthy.

us? > me.. Daisy does know of what she speaks... my art/crafts studies are from years and years ago.

in any event, Thank you! this is so enjoyable.

 

Thanks !

 

[TMLee]

Wow! That was a lot faster than I expected. Great practice boards!!! I liked the beige bookcloth the best in the pictures, I thought it rendered the embossing the best, though the salmon is quite nice as well. I agree that the silk doesn't work well for the embossing/debossing -- I didn't think this possible! But the natural light-play in the silk detracts from the more subtle light-play in the embossing, not a good effect. I'd still take a silk on a flat cover any day, though.

 

Your efforts are continuously inspiring! Using your ideas I actually made a little hardcover for a little No. 5 Rhodia pad that I have that I wanted to stay closed in my purse. It turned out well -- mat board, paper cover, tucked a little elastic band onto it and everything -- but I must say it was harder to do than it first appeared! (If I ever get my camera out again I'll take pictures, but it probably won't be soon, sorry.) I now carry it in my purse and it's a perfect fit. So I owe you thanks for inspiring me to do that.

 

Keep up the good work!!!

 

Thats great to hear you have made your own pocket book

As you continue to make more, you will finally settle on something that suits your needs to a T.

Enjoy !

Edited December 29, 2010 by TMLee

[TMLee]

I started on the "LK" emboss with the SAIFU Salmon Pink bookcloth ....

 

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I figured I needed to start from the centre so as to allow more stretch in many directions ...

I picked the two tiniest squares to start the gluing ...

Before gluing onto the window fret cutout pattern, the back of the bookcloth was wet to soften it and help it cling to the corners and ridges which it will soon be made to adhere to...

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Decided to clamp it tight to press it ...

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After about half and hour

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Its too tedious...

I should finish by next Christmas.

 

There must be a better way ....

 

 

Will mull over it and think up alternatives ...

 

I think the cutouts are too thick for the bookcloth to wraparound tightly ...

[TMLee]

The cutouts are too thick.....So I decided to use a thinner card ...Remembering I had this printout many months ago, I decided to retrieve it since I have begun doing some embossing ....A printed image of "autobots" on a magazine cover..http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4527.jpgCut it out ...http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4528.jpgPlacement onto a rear coverboardhttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4529.jpgGluing it back into exact position ...http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4530.jpgReady to receive the bookcloth coverhttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4532.jpgThe cutouts were glued thinly.Only the cutout was glued, the rest of the coverboard was left unglued for now.The idea is to permit as much stretch as may be neededThe back of the bookcloth was also made wet and pliable with a brush.Glued on and went over the edges with a bonefolderI should have used something to protect the bookcloth surface ... now its a little marred..http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4534.jpg Decided to press hard to make the bookcloth reach the creviceshttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4535.jpgAfter about half and hour http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4539.jpghttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/2010%20JOURNALS/GEMATEX%20SERIES/Journal%20118%20GEMATEX%20-%20Ochre/Journal%20118E%20GEMATEX%20Ochre%20autobots%20Emboss/DSCF4538.jpgIt works better with thinner cards .... magazine covers that are not too thick but still stiff ...

 

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Edited December 30, 2010 by TMLee

[DavidHandmade]

Lee -

 

This is a "high-tech" idea, but air pressure may be a good way to force the bookcloth into the details of the de-boss or emboss detail.

 

A pliable air bladder - like that for a seat cushion - tightly enclosed in a "box", pumped up with a bicycle tire pump, may be enough to force the bookcloth into the details of the emboss and deboss features.

 

- just an idea...

 

> And I agree with an earlier Poster: It's great of you to allow us to follow your experimentation and creative process as you invent and test new ideas and creative endeavors - !

 

[ BTW: Did you abandon the "LK" / Salmon Bookloth / Windowpane covers? ]

[TMLee]

[ BTW: Did you abandon the "LK" / Salmon Bookloth / Windowpane covers? ]

 

Hi David,

Good to hear from you ...

 

Yes , I will probably abandon this pair of journals with initials

and

replace them ...

I'll most likely improve the design , now that I will be using thinner filler cards ...

They are easier to cut and most importantly the heavier Gematex bookcloth don't have too deep a thickness to adhere onto.

The two will have a window fret theme in order to be matching ...

The creative juices are now flowing ...

 

I think I may just have a found the solution in this last endeavor.

Again , this opens up a lot of possibilities.

Just imagine !!!!!!

 

I am thinking of doing a cutout of the FPN logo but I think its too diffciult to execute.

Cutting the letters and tight rounded curves is too difficult....

But its a nice logo to create a bas relief ....

KIV this idea for the moment, till the solution presents itself ....

 

BTW, your suggestion is pretty hi-tech to me. I don't think I have eqpt anywhere near like that ...

Still, thanks a bundle ...