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Excellent TM Lee!! Maybe cutting the very corner so the creases dicrease... ahem, are reduced. 45°, not counter-rounded. Maybe cuting tiny, almost microscopic slits, like in the example I showed you some months ago, so the bulk is diminished. Anyway, result is QUITE impressive. I can almost feel the softness of the round corner. Oh, if only I could get some skin. No pun intended! :)

 

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Let me start out by saying that those are some of the nicest journals that I have ever seen! The fact that the signatures are showing is quite cool, making these NEARLY demonstrator journals!

 

One suggestion I do have is to not get too caught up in them. If at any time it becomes a chore, I would advise you to look back at the reason you are making them in the first place. If it is for extra money, go ahead even when it gets bad, but if it is for fun, and the money is a perk, I would suggest staying in only as long as it is fun.

 

thanks for your suggestion.

Rgds

 

 

 

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Excellent TM Lee!! Maybe cutting the very corner so the creases dicrease... ahem, are reduced. 45°, not counter-rounded. Maybe cuting tiny, almost microscopic slits, like in the example I showed you some months ago, so the bulk is diminished. Anyway, result is QUITE impressive. I can almost feel the softness of the round corner. Oh, if only I could get some skin. No pun intended! :)

 

Cheers!

 

 

Tks Aristarco,

I am not sure I understand what u mean when u said cut thecorners?

 

Yr previous link is interesting. I haven't tried it yet.

I think I have problems cutting the curvature bcos the lambskin is so soft.

 

 

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I mean, instead of having the skin to form 90° corners before wrapping it over the round, why not cutting it at 45°, then wrap it over the round. It's a foolish idea, maybe it won't change anything, but in my mind, I see less bulk when wrapped and glued.Maybe I need some rest :D

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Dear Aristarco, I am afraid I have trouble understanding what you are describing ...

 

anyway , ....

 

A few nites ago , I tried this ... I didn't do the corners the usual way, ie cutting the corners into many sharp triangular spikes.

 

I decided to try making creases like what I did for leather corners.

I wanted a smooth rounded corner without any cuts.

I figured that fabric is much thinner than leather and ought to be more do-able.

 

This time, I only cut out 2 triangles at the tangents - each where the round corner meets the straightedges.

Then, I made creases as I folded into the corners.

The corners were then clamped to flatten out whatever folds.

 

The end result is promising.

(I didn't take photos each step of the process)

 

Here are the end results

 

Here the corners are fully rounded and smooth - no noticeable cutlines or segmented cuts.

I like this . Its like its perfectly moulded into the corners.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/round%20corners%20uncut/DSCF5698.jpg

 

The endview of the corner showing the same.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/round%20corners%20uncut/DSCF5699.jpg

 

some more pics of other corners

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/round%20corners%20uncut/DSCF5700.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/round%20corners%20uncut/DSCF5702.jpg

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Dear Aristarco, I am afraid I have trouble understanding what you are describing ...

 

anyway , ....

 

Oh man, I am so bad describing things using words. :headsmack: I'm an engineer, I need to draw while speaking so, here it is what I say... in images.

 

post-17708-1246497863_thumb.jpg

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This is Journal #43D (A5 size) "Briar"

 

Its finally completed eversince doing the corner bands earlier posted here.

 

I managed to buy a spool of the same heavy waxed cord (natural colour) in a deep brown colour. This way, I can then make stitches two-tone like what I did earlier in the Briar A6 size. That one was using yellow and brown cotton thread that was waxed.

Here its a better cord that is flattish and waxed and gives a better end result.

 

The Front with and without bands deployed

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5713.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5717.jpg

 

The Back

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5718.jpg

 

Full spread

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5709.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5710.jpg

 

The spine with the ribbon pagemarker added

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5711.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5715.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5716.jpg

 

The two-tone stitches

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5703.jpg

 

The head (with the ribbon embedded)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5704.jpg

 

The middle

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5705.jpg

 

The tail

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5706.jpg

 

Some close-ups showing the 2 different coloured stitches intertwined. The two colours match the colours on the fabric.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5707.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5708.jpg

 

The flyleaves and 'anti drop-out" flap

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5721.jpg

 

the Colophon and inktestpage

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5722.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2043D%20A5%20Briar/DSCF5725.jpg

 

7 signatures , 112 pages

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I'll take it!!!!

 

You keep posting photos of these journals with that sexy Omas and my resistance weakens...

 

cheers

 

Wael

 

This is Journal #43D (A5 size) "Briar"

 

Its finally completed eversince doing the corner bands earlier posted here.

 

7 signatures , 112 pages

 

“Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis”

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Oh my goodness, I just realized that I have not taken any pictures of the fabulous Batik journal you made! I've been remiss!

 

 

Note to self: Take photos and upload already, crissake.

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Dear Aristarco, I am afraid I have trouble understanding what you are describing ...

 

anyway , ....

 

Oh man, I am so bad describing things using words. :headsmack: I'm an engineer, I need to draw while speaking so, here it is what I say... in images.

 

post-17708-1246497863_thumb.jpg

 

Yes I understand what u mean now.

I have practising this in all my journals.

However, cutting away these corners do not reduce the bulk of the folded corners.

It only reduces the length of the material that is folded over.

 

What I did discover is that gluing the fabric corners thoroughly wet and then creasing while foldingover and then clamping DOES flatten the corners very well.

A few more tries shld see marked improvements.

 

The quest to make the perfect journal goes on ... :D

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I'll take it!!!!

 

You keep posting photos of these journals with that sexy Omas and my resistance weakens...

 

cheers

 

Wael

 

This is Journal #43D (A5 size) "Briar"

 

Its finally completed eversince doing the corner bands earlier posted here.

 

7 signatures , 112 pages

 

dear Wael,

Thank you for your enthusiasm even tho I haven't offerred it up for sale yet.

It's yours :-). Will PM you.

 

And yes .... "Resistance is futile ..."

it's a hard one to find these days.

 

 

 

 

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Oh my goodness, I just realized that I have not taken any pictures of the fabulous Batik journal you made! I've been remiss!

 

 

Note to self: Take photos and upload already, crissake.

 

great!

look forward to seeing yr pics, though I am half guessing that perhaps pics ought to be posted in the other sub-forum.

 

What FP did you intend to photograph with again ? I forgot.

 

 

 

 

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This is my recent attempt on folding over rounded corners with fabric.

 

Continuing from what was mentioned above regarding corners, i tried a different technique.

 

Here the corner is cut off 45degrees.

Then one slit is cut at each tangential.

Then its thoroughly wet with glue.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5727.jpg

 

This is different from my usual method of cutting out several wedge-shaped pieces at the corners before folding in.

 

 

Next, just use your fingers and pinch the fabric together to make creases.

Then fold over onto the greyboard.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5733.jpg

 

 

Next, continue to flatten the freshly foldedover fabric onto the greyboard.

No need for more glue here bcos the fabric is already thoroughly wet and since fabric is porous, the glue will just permeate thru the fabric.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5734.jpg

 

 

The two long edges are then folded over, whilst the corners are still wet .

This is important bcos being wet still allows you to knead away unwanted bumps and folds.

Two things to look at in this pic.

1) the resulting corner EDGE is nice and smooth and continuous,

2) but the corner from the folded fabric is still quite bulky.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5737.jpg

 

To reduce this bulk, I clamped the corners carefully.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5740.jpg

 

After clamping, the bulk is reduced a little bit.

But it can't be any thinner than the many layers of fabric that is folded over each other.

 

 

This is then the subsequent attempt to redress this bulk.

so, logically,

I cut out some wedge-shaped pieces at each tangential.

The reason for doing this is to reduce the amount of layers of fabric under each other.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5741.jpg

 

There is some improvement.

Here you see less of the greyboard being covered by fabric folded over.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5742.jpg

 

The corners are then clamped to flatten it.

 

The end result is a flatter corner but with smoother rounded edges.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5744.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric/DSCF5747.jpg

 

I am just thinking now how to further improve, perhaps after pinching , maybe I can snip off the piece of the fabric thats upright in the 2nd pic above.....

 

A few more variations needed I suppose ...

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#58C and #58D "Red Stripes ... " being offered for sale here.

 

Tks for looking.

 

 

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This is Journal #61 "Dragonflies"

 

This is one in a series of fabrics of Japanese prints all done with a typical blue background..

Dragonflies in Japanese culture have good meanings. Scroll down to the sub-heading "Japan"

I like Japanese prints depicting dragonflies. They look quietly elegant.

At least 2 of my earlier journals have dragonfly prints. A blue one and a matching maroon one.

This is the third one.

 

Front with and without the band deployed.

Pictured with an FPN Bexley for scale.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5753.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5755.jpg

 

The Rear

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5754.jpg

 

Full spread

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5761.jpg

 

I decided to use a red ribbon pagemarker instead bcos I felt it added a nice dash of colour that complements the little hint of red in the dragonfly print.

As usual, whenever a ribbon pagemarker is incorporated, I would stitch 7 signatures instead of my usual six.

The only reason is to seat the ribbon in the exact centre of the spine to achieve symmetry.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5756.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5758.jpg

 

The blue flyleaves with the "anti drop-out" flap

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5759.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5760.jpg

 

There are two new things I tried out in this journal.

First , is the different technique of folding in the rounded corners.

Compared against all my journals so far, the corners in this one are 'smoother' with less segmented cuts.

I tried to take some macro shots but you have to look closely to understand what I mean.

I guess the best way is to just feel the contours of the rounded corners with your finger to understand. You would feel almost no cuts at all.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5765.jpg

 

The second new thing I tried out , was to try to make the pocket protrude less or not at all from the edges of the covers.

My journals so far have pocket hinges that protrude by about 1mm.

So here, I decided to cut out about 1mm from the edge of the flyleaf that receives the pocket hinge.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5762.jpg

 

A close-up that shows the cut made.

The vellum hinges here do not protrude from the edge of the covers.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5764.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5774.jpg

 

The ink testpage and colophon

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5770.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2061%20Dragonflies/DSCF5766.jpg

 

7 Signatures , 112 pages total.

Paper is NATURALIS Soft White (Smooth) 120gsm.

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Yet to be crafted Journal #62 "Capetown" offered on a commission basis here - well sort of .... :embarrassed_smile:

 

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Rounded corners in fabric - 3rd attempt.

 

Here i am trying a totally uncut technique.

 

Almost there ....

I think I just need to settle on a certain procedure, pattern.

 

Here is the initial tryout ...

Started at the centre of the rounded corner.

In my haste and fast drying glue, the tangentials were not creased quickly. Hence the folds were spread out over a large area. Not good.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5793.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5794.jpg

 

On the next tryout, the folds were arranged in a radial pattern, this time taking care to ensure they are all concentrated around the rounded corner.

It looks alot more neater but the bulk returned !

All corners were clamped to flatten them.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5795.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5796.jpg

 

Here are closeup shots of the smooth corners around the edge.

No traces of cut fabric.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5798.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Rounded%20corners%20fabric%203rd/DSCF5799.jpg

 

Any constructive comments welcomed. :)

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This is Journal #63 "Tracks" Batik

 

This is the journal that is completed with the rounded corner fold-in technique described above.

No cuts were made to the corner fabric.

 

This journal has a few new features incorporated :

- the corners folded-in without cutting any slits on the fabric corners ;

- 7 signatures (instead of 6) using my favourite writing paper 135gsm (instead of 120gsm) ;

- hinge pockets that do not protrude out of the journal edges.

 

The fabric here is genuine Batik that is hand-dyed. Its a beautiful fabric.

Its a nice rust colour with graphics that look much like tyre tracks running all over it.

The abstract random pattern of the tracks lend a nice aesthetics to the overall composition.

 

Front with the Etruria Alter Ego for scale.

The two make a nice match. :)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5839_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5833_1.jpg

 

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5830_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5831_1.jpg

 

I chose a nice wine red for the flyleaves to complement the deep maroon graphics of the tracks.

Here you see the adjustable "anti drop-out" flap.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5835_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5836_1.jpg

 

Full spread. Fabric cut from one piece.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5844_1.jpg

 

I wanted a 2-tone stitch for this journal thinking it would add to the aesthetics.

It looks great on the spine but not so pleasant (I think) on the covers.

The next few variants will have the stitches in various permutations.

I chose a similar shade of bronze maroon ribbon to match the cord.

Here you see it planted on the 4th (middle) signature.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5843_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5842_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5841_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5840_1.jpg

 

I have been resisting using 135gsm paper for 7 signatures on an A6 journal.

The reason is bcos I want the journal to keep to that 1cm thick thumbrule for writing comfort. (the bookblocks in my journals with 6 signatures of 120gsm paper are quite consistent at 1cm thick.)

With 7 signatures and 135gsm paper, the bookblock here is thicker. Its about 3mm thicker than the bookblock with 6 signatures.

3mm may not be much but I guess it remains to be road-tested.

 

 

The other last new feature is the pocket hinges.

They don't protrude out of the journal anymore.

I cut away the flyleaves and pockets about 0.5mm along the edge to accomodate the tracing vellum hinges.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5847_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5848_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF6333_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF6334_1.jpg

 

The inktestpage and Colophon

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5838_1.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/TMLee/Journal%2063%20Tracks%20Batik/DSCF5845_1.jpg

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