Super Pinks - Operation Stone Age

[white_lotus]

somehow a duplicate post sorry!

Edited February 7, 2015 by white_lotus

[Cyber6]

somehow a duplicate post sorry!

 

An hallucination??

[Agge]

At 136º proof, I don't recommend putting absinthe (correct spelling!) into a pen. I think it would write too light anyway. And at that proof needs water or your palette will be adversely effected by the alcohol. I'm not allowed to sell direct to the public. Also don't want to break any rules here, so you can check out my web site www.delawarephoenix.com for more info. You won't hallucinate.

 

 

Do you know if you are allowed to export?

[white_lotus]

I probably could but I won't. I'm very small. Make a pilgrimage to NYC where you can buy my absinthe, whiskey, and then buy pens and inks at FPH. All the best!

[Barkingpig]

Thank you for sharing your website with us. I remember being fascinated with the "stories" of absinthe as a teenager (late 1960"s) & was excited to find wormwood available at a local nursery when buying plants for an herb garden. Truthfully can't remember doing anything with the particular plant but felt good to see it growing in our garden while reading about the "exotic" liquor that had become illegal to purchase!

I live in a state that is renowned for it's production of bourbon & even have a friend whose husband has established a well received distillery so he could produce his Grandfather's recipe for whiskey. I am happy to know someone who is not only making whiskey but also a liquor that has such a "storied" history. You are to be commended for your initiative & success. Yours is a great example of the new "Farm to Table" movement!

[dcwaites]

While we have ink nerds and geeks here, the general customer wants as little muss and fuss as possible.

 

And the big problem with concentrate (over just ink) is that people will tend to ignore the word "concentrate" and focus on the word "ink" and simply load up their pens with the concentrate.

 

Even Pink Stoners often ignore Ambers' instruction "you must dilute" and just fill a pen with concentrate.

 

Human nature being what it is, I just want to point this out.

 

And I have this experience with my absinthes. Says on the bottle "dilute with 3 to 5 parts cold water". But I still get emails from people who try to drink it straight up.

 

It is my understanding that the next round of testing inks will come as a gel and couldn't possibly be used as-is.

[ScienceChick]

 

It is my understanding that the next round of testing inks will come as a gel and couldn't possibly be used as-is.

 

Now you've done it!

[Ted A]

 

It is my understanding that the next round of testing inks will come as a gel and couldn't possibly be used as-is.

 

Hah! Just you try us and see.

[Sinistral1]

Some Pinks are more adventurous than others. Boldness and inexpensive, easy to clean pens are their motis operandi.

[JustWrite Pen Company]

 

From the point of the consumer, I can see benefits although I think they're mostly perceived benefits. I know some folks had "issues" with the powder escaping the sachet or poofing out when they mixed. Fortunately I anticipated this, took steps to corral the powder and had no problems; the average ink consumer might not even think to do this and then be unhappy with the ink/BlackStone because of it. I thought the mixing was fun. Concentrate would involve mixing, too, so my inner nerd is content.

 

The concentrate would be more expensive to ship; would it be practical to offer both concentrate and powder?

 

Looking forward to trying out the latest BlackStone iteration!

 

I think we've got a pretty good understanding of the pros and cons of powdered ink from the previous testing on FPN. We learned so much from the feedback, advice and general comments and observations of Amber's test groups.

 

Now I'm very interested to see how the liquid ink concentrate compares to the ink powder from the end user's perspective. Personally, I prefer the concentrate but what you guys think is far more important than what I think.

 

The concentrate would be more expensive to ship (but not much more) than the powder and the syringes cost more than the packets used for the powder but it is much easier to produce. So, advantages and disadvantages all around.

 

We haven't given up on the powdered inks but now I'd really like to know how they compare with he concentrates before going back to them. We did try making concentrates with the Ambers and Cashmeres because they were such good inks but the results haven't been promising so far. These new concentrates are completely different to the Cashmere and Amber powered inks. Different dyes, different additives, different everything.

 

[JustWrite Pen Company]

 

It is my understanding that the next round of testing inks will come as a gel and couldn't possibly be used as-is.

 

It's halfway between a gel and a paste and impossible to draw up into a fountain pen.

I wanted a proper gel but this required gelling agents which tended to resist dissolving and clogged up pens in our testing. So we ditched the gelling agents and we're left with what's basically a paste.

[TheRealScubaSteve]

It will be interesting to test them. I'm looking forward to it. Though I did like the powder, I don't really care much either way. We certainly won't be able to snort concentrate (easily) so it will be advantageous for a certain tester that lives in a thistle patch somewhere in Texas close to a WalMart.

[ScienceChick]

It will be interesting to test them. I'm looking forward to it.

 

So am I. I knew I'd enjoy testing but didn't anticipate how much I'd enjoy it.

 

My fondness for the powder was based on economy (which would be mostly preserved with a gel/paste), the ability to tinker with dilutions (preserved) and the fact that I just like messin' with stuff. I do agree with white_lotus that the average consumer may not be as enamored of messin'. I think that, if they could be enticed to try the powder - and had a good experience mixing it up - they'd be sold. I suspect the same will be true with a paste and it would eliminate powder pandemonium.

 

Kevin, two words: Blue Diamond

 

I wasn't in on the testing for the Ambers but was sent some; I was excited to get it and am looking forward to trying it out.

Edited February 9, 2015 by ScienceChick

[dcwaites]

I know people like the colour of Blue Diamond but Blue Cashmere is a much better behaved ink.

[mhguda]

Here's another vote for Blue Diamond be it well-behaved or not. I loved it and would buy a package to make a full bottle! I liked the powdered ink but have not have too many negatives with liquid samples, so would be willing to try the concentrate, provided they come with clear instructions in the package! My last package was a bit of a guessing game, and I may have loaded a pen with a very concentrated mixture, not knowing what it was... so a label saying what the sample is and what its concentration is would be necessary to not mess it up...

[Sinistral1]

So I'm getting an image of this paste coming in a tube, like toothpaste or antiseptic gel, or is it loaded into a syringe, like you mentioned, for ease of measured dispensing?

[Ted A]

I agree that there is a real Nerd effect to powder. Being able to mix up a good quantity of ink from this little sachet, varying the dilution to produce different colors. It's fun. I have hopes that the gel will be similar. If it does then maybe it won't be so bad to not be able to spread little streaks of color all over the kitchen or bathroom or wherever we mixed them.

 

And let me add, just in case it hasn't been mentioned, Blue Diamond is highly desired. It may not have behaved as well as blue cashmere, but it sure was pretty.

[Cyber6]

So I'm getting an image of this paste coming in a tube, like toothpaste or antiseptic gel, or is it loaded into a syringe, like you mentioned, for ease of measured dispensing?

 

Nope... not sure if I am psychic or have seen this somewhere, I have an image in me head... the gel will come in a pre-filled syringe.

 

 

C.

 

 

Example of pre-filled syringe.

 

http://www.medxl.com/DATA/PRODUIT/122_grande.jpg

Edited February 9, 2015 by Cyber6

[amberleadavis]

 

It is my understanding that the next round of testing inks will come as a gel and couldn't possibly be used as-is.

 

 

 

Now you've done it!

 

 

David now has them in his hot hands.... David, tell us more!

[TheRealScubaSteve]

^^

 

We are not so patiently waiting. Show us your ink-stained fingers!

Edited February 10, 2015 by TheRealScubaSteve