Information On Two Small Watermans. 1940S? 50S?

[ISW_Kaputnik]

Toward the end of the year, I picked up a bunch of vintage pens, and have been restoring them. I'm interested in what anyone can tell me about these two Watermans. I've put new sacs in both, but so far have only inked the blue one. The lever mechanism is a type I've only seen in one other pen, instead of an internal spring bar, there is a pressure bar hanging on a pivot from the lever. The pressure bar on the blue one has enough corrosion on it that I thought of trying to get it off the lever and out of the pen, but I can't quite figure it out, and I don't want to break it.

 

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The imprinted writing on the barrels says "Watermans's Reg U.S. Patent Office Made in the United States of America", with a circular "Ideal" logo in the center of this text. The clips just say "Waterman's". Both nibs say "Waterman's Ideal 14 KT", but the one on the green pen also says "fine rigid". I cannot find any other writing on them.

 

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I assume that the material of these is some sort of celluloid; the blue one reminds me of the blue on some Esterbrook Js. The blue one writes nicely enough, nothing to blow me away, but the nib does have some noticeable flex, although hardly a wet noodle. I like the small size, which is just big enough to be comfortable to write with posted. I'll get to the green one eventually, but I don't want to ink up too many pens right now.

 

These are apparently not the highest end pens Waterman ever made, but I'm curious where they fit in. They seem like efficient little vest pocket or purse pens, and the plastics are attractive. For my own information, I'd like to know about when they were made, and anything else anyone can tell me about the models.

[Xof72000]

Waterman "Stalwart" pens... from the 1940's (they appear in a 1947 catalog I have).

[ISW_Kaputnik]

I like that model name. Thanks for the information.

[RMN]

Lovely pens, enjoy them

 

 

D.ick

[pajaro]

You have two beautiful pens there. I especially like the light colored one. I burned up the golden swirl pen I had trying to get the section out to resac it, and I was trying to be careful. I used the 14K Ideal fine nib in a Reform 1745, replacing the Reform's gold plated medium. That Ideal nib writes divinely. It would have been better in the Waterman.