Battle Of The Inks - Doppelgänger Edition

[Cyber6]

So, at one point of another... we have all said.. "Wow, I wish I could get THAT ink".. but is discontinue/expensive/unobtanium .. etc

 

So, here is the place where you should come and check if "THAT" ink has a Doppelgänger (look-alike, double, one who nearly or completely resembles another).. I will start...

 

 

I will remind you, that even the same ink looks different depending on nib/flow/paper .. so these are examples inks with the same/similar hue.. that depending on your nib/flow/paper it might look identical..

 

 

Have you heard of Sailor Tanna Japonensis (Evening Cicada).. what about Sailor Shin Zan (Deep in the Forest).. well if you can't get those, you can grab a bottle of Safari.. is cheaper, not exclusive, and easy to find.

 

 

 

photo below... (in real person they look almost identical)

 

Knowing how famous scanners and pictures are for not completely represent what your eyes perceived, you get both... and take my word for it.. With the right pen you can get the exact look.

 

 

C.

Edited November 23, 2014 by Cyber6

[Cyber6]

Have you seen the mouthwatering Diamine Wagner, from the Music Set... Well, I was not going to get the whole set when I was just drooling for Wagner (I like others in the set now, but originally only Wagner was calling my name)

 

Well.. Wagner seems to be right in the middle of Ina Ho and Vert Olive...

 

 

photo below..

 

 

 

So yeah... I mixed myself some Wagner... ... I believe Diamine is now selling the Music and Flower refills individually, so now is easier to just buy Wagner than mix one.

 

 

C.

Edited November 23, 2014 by Cyber6

[zoniguana]

Very cool! I will have to root through my journal and pick out some more doppelgangers!

[Bloch]

I'm still bemoaning the discontinuation of the Caran d'Ache Caribbean Sea. Diamine Marine and Diamine Steel Blue come closest, but lack the same shading. :-(

[Sinistral1]

I'm still working on getting cards of all my inks and samples, but have already discovered some look a likes. Can I post them here later?

[Cyber6]

I'm still working on getting cards of all my inks and samples, but have already discovered some look a likes. Can I post them here later?

 

 

Please do so. This will be a work in progress. In a forum where everyone is an "enabler" and most of us try hard to hide our wallets... Maybe, just maybe... we can help someone save some money..

 

 

C.

[napalm]

 

In a forum where everyone is an "enabler" ...

 

Speaking of "enablement", what do you think about these:

 

 

[Cyber6]

Real nice.. the last one reminds me of Toucan Gold. The first two .. can be Amber Yellow and Sheaffer's Gold..

 

Are these your concoctions?

 

 

 

C.

[napalm]

Real nice.. the last one reminds me of Toucan Gold. The first two .. can be Amber Yellow and Sheaffer's Gold..

 

Are these your concoctions?

 

 

 

C.

 

Nope these are watercolors, I'm just trying to get you hooked too

 

1. "Green Gold" - pigment PY129

2. "Nickel Yellow" - pigment PY150

3. "Quinacridone Gold" - pigment PO49

 

They're all "dual tone" or, in FP ink speak translation, great shaders (the tone will change with dilution).

 

The fun part is that PY129 is technically an unsaturated pure yellow - and it's all some sort of weird thing that we perceive unsaturated yellows as having a green tint (which a colorimeter will disprove).

[Cyber6]

Nope these are watercolors, I'm just trying to get you hooked too

 

No need.. my artist in residence has craploads of watercolors... .... I just don't know their names...

 

 

 

C.

[Cyber6]

Another Doppelganger... this one needs help.

 

 

 

You always wanted the amazing exclusive Maruzen Sepia Ink.... well here is the next best thing....

 

 

 

 

Please note that both Grenade and Epinard can be replaced by Okuyama and Tokina Matsou. I will need to scan those next...

 

 

[Cyber6]

One more...

 

Sailor Kobe Shinkaichi Gold ... VS ... Iroshizuko Ina Ho... Identical?.. NO... similar.,.. Hell Yeah!!!

 

 

[Cyber6]

OK I lied... another one... (I didn't know I have been scanning "twins" for a while... )

 

BlackStone Red Diamond (not for sale yet), Levenger Pinkly and Diamine Hope Pink

 

 

[yannori]

Wow! This is my new favorite forum thread!

[Cyber6]

I'm still bemoaning the discontinuation of the Caran d'Ache Caribbean Sea. Diamine Marine and Diamine Steel Blue come closest, but lack the same shading. :-(

 

That will be a hard one to match... below is Diamine Steel and KWZI #36.. The scan makes it look bluer... KWZI #36 is your closest bet.

 

[tinysnail]

 

Speaking of "enablement", what do you think about these:

 

 

OOOH, those are nice.

 

This thread is fantastic, also! I'm going to keep an eye out of close matches or come up with some concoctions of my own

[visvamitra]

Interesting topic.

 

This weekend I'm gonna look for some doppelgangers.

 

Thx Cyber

[Tas]

Great idea Cyber6 !

visvamitra, please dig out your recent Akkerman / Diamine reviews.

[visvamitra]

OK, let's start with Garuda Rood (PW Akkerman ink no 18) / Monaco Red (Diamine)

 

Garuda Rood / Monaco Red comparison

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2199/xGq0bH.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img743/4126/tnPZ0e.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img673/1307/XPa4Db.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/414/B6TOJ2.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img905/7981/jphQs7.jpg

Edited November 26, 2014 by visvamitra

[visvamitra]

Groenmarkt Smaragd (PW Akkerman ink no 26) / UMBER (Diamine)

 

GS next to Umber Diamine

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/9173/nLD8gM.jpg

(Umber - BL, GS - UL - upper left)

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9316/T6Kqta.jpg

(GS - vertical lines, DU - horizontal lines)

http://imageshack.com/a/img674/6044/K5dCC0.jpg

(first line - GS; two other - DU)