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Most of the 12K nibs are the equivalent of the 14K DX nibs and are marked with HX for the grade. (X = F,M or B ) In other words, they are manifold nibs.

Presumably, using 12k means they can use the same nib pattern to make the nib that they use for the 14K nib. The 14K D nibs were different in that there are 2 holes in the nib and not just one and the nib tynes are shorter to give a more inflexible nib.

I wonder if at the time they were nearly the equivalent of 'posting' nibs and most of the other nibs on the market were too soft for pressure use. I noticed that my 18K Posting nib on my pilot elite can take a bit of pressure without causing any additional ink to flow or changing line variation, where as my 18K "<F>" nib doesn't allow much pressure as it's nearly almost as soft as the 18K "soft" nib I have just not as much variation possible.

 

I wonder if most of the nib offerings in Japan tended to be soft unless marked, and such there was a special niche for stiff nibs.

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Most of the 12K nibs are the equivalent of the 14K DX nibs and are marked with HX for the grade. (X = F,M or B ) In other words, they are manifold nibs.

Presumably, using 12k means they can use the same nib pattern to make the nib that they use for the 14K nib. The 14K D nibs were different in that there are 2 holes in the nib and not just one and the nib tynes are shorter to give a more inflexible nib.

 

Most of the 12K nibs are the equivalent of the 14K DX nibs and are marked with HX for the grade. (X = F,M or B ) In other words, they are manifold nibs.

Presumably, using 12k means they can use the same nib pattern to make the nib that they use for the 14K nib. The 14K D nibs were different in that there are 2 holes in the nib and not just one and the nib tynes are shorter to give a more inflexible nib.

I bought a maroon Pelikan M250 with a 12c/500 nib in Hongkong in the mid-1980s. I wanted to buy the black/green version of which the shop had several pens. All of them were scratchy. The maroon pen had a soft OM nib. The contrast with the black/green pens led me to buy it. It was left behind on my office desk after work and missing the next day. Wrote very well with a large ink supply.

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I bought a maroon Pelikan M250 with a 12c/500 nib in Hongkong in the mid-1980s. I wanted to buy the black/green version of which the shop had several pens. All of them were scratchy. The maroon pen had a soft OM nib. The contrast with the black/green pens led me to buy it. It was left behind on my office desk after work and missing the next day. Wrote very well with a large ink supply.

 

Rather an old posting but a high proportion of the Bordeaux (not maroon) M250s had 12ct nibs. See www.rothemel.de

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Old, old subject but I have to add something:

M250 with 18K nib was produced for certain markets: Swiss and France.

 

I have seen over the years 15 or 20 of them, I own one unused.

 

I just tried the nib.

 

Very nice nib monotone 18k nib with nice spring that can get you a nice B line (it is originaly F), very nice pen.

 

Not a Frankopen, it is an official issued pen by Pelikan

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Somehow search didn't show this; so I had made a boring thread; (55-0) so deleted it after finding this.

I do have an Old Style 250 M under way. Expect it tomorrow.

An Easter present from my wife.

Looks fairly mint, still has the price 'sticker' on the clip, was DM 125.....which was pretty good money back before the day.

I really like the springy regular flex nibs of pre-98 era.

M is a very good nib for shading inks in that flex.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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The M250 is a nice pen. Of course from a technical point of view it's like an M200 old style, pre 1997.

The 14k nib sets it aside from the M200.

Possibly there were some colour variations though that were only available for the M250?, Joshua has the great knowledge here and could confirm.

Also I've often wondered, if I take an old style M200 and stick a 14k nib in it, does that make it an M250?

 

 

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Yes, they came in different colors; saw on Applebloom, only. I've only seen a couple 250's back in the day and were black.

Don't think all the colors were the same as the 200, or not of the 200 of that day.

Your cap appears a dark green?

Body black.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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NOS, size sticker on the barrel. Plastic price sticker on the clip, DM 125. Piston gasket still white never been inked. NOS.

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A very nice and springy regular flex nib; had me thinking it was semi-flex....nope, pulled out an Osmia semi-flex and it wasn't and  it does seem better than my W.Germany 200 for ease of spring.

 

It is @ 4 or 5 in the to be ink list. Sigh, but I'm being stern with my self.....no more than 7 inked pens............No More Than 7.

 

 

Do you guys think from experience that talking to oneself actually helps?

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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