Sailor's Full Ink Lines Including Shop Exclusives Compiled In A Post?

[Chrissy]

Seems like Sailor is reinventing themselves quite a lot lately. Many of the new store exclusive colours popping up, have already a very similar colours at some other store or in their own standard line-up.

Or is it just me...?

 

I think that has always been the case, and it is the same with all ink manufacturers, not just Sailor. They make inks in particular batches of colour, then market some of that ink as a store exclusive colour and some as a standard colour

[white_lotus]

Sailor's store exclusive inks are custom made for each store, they are usually not re-bottlings of standard offerings. And since the only true standard offerings from Sailor are their Jentle blue, blue-black, and black that wouldn't go very far.

[haruka337]

AndyYNWA, on 30 Oct 2017 - 01:05, said:

Seems like Sailor is reinventing themselves quite a lot lately. Many of the new store exclusive colours popping up, have already a very similar colours at some other store or in their own standard line-up.

Or is it just me...?

Nah.. not you. I've been saying the same for some time. In any case... I might have reached my Sailor "overload" level.. The new colours... don't do ANYTHING to me..

 

 

 

C.

 

Oh God--I'm not alone. I feel the exact same way. I'm staying away from the newer stuff, generally speaking. Instead, I'm taking my time on hard to find Sailor ink with more unique coloring. Typically older shop exclusives with in-store purchasing options only.

[Mew]

I still collect sailor inks whenever I can find colours that I like, but I made a list when I started and I'm only left with 3 shops to cover now.

[white_lotus]

So exciting Mew! Will you consider you're collection "complete" once you've visited those three shops?

[Chrissy]

Sailor's store exclusive inks are custom made for each store, they are usually not re-bottlings of standard offerings. And since the only true standard offerings from Sailor are their Jentle blue, blue-black, and black that wouldn't go very far.

 

By 'standard' colour I didn't intend to mean just Jentle Blue, Blue-black and Black, I meant to include all of their current Jentle range of colours, plus what have become their regular Kobe colours.

 

 

For example: I think when they make a huge vat full of Jentle Rikyu-cha, they also bottle some of it as Pen & Message Cigar. They are just not different enough to warrant two huge vats of ink. There must be other examples.

[white_lotus]

Store exclusive inks are produced in limited quantities for one shop, so "huge vats" are not needed to make those inks. Sailor has said they do not make store exclusive inks on their general production line for inks, and that Mr. Ishimaru makes all store exclusive inks by hand. It may well be that the formulations for Pen and Message Cigar and Sailor Jentle Four Seasons Rikyu-cha are close enough that few of us can tell the difference, but this does not mean they are made the same way. There are store exclusive inks that are very similar to one another (Bungbox 88 Green Tea and Shousikhan Deep in the Mountains come to mind) but they are still different, and not similar to anything in the general Jentle Four Seasons line.

[Mew]

So exciting Mew! Will you consider you're collection "complete" once you've visited those three shops?

I think it would be complete, and I won't have the urge to buy more colours. New ones don't interested me anyway except the Ginza gold Sepia which I have 8 bottles of.

 

2017 has been a lucky year for ink acquisitions. I managed to get:

Rihei inks in February

Discontinued Joyful-2 Honda and It sunrise inks in June

Tomiya inks in June

Hirosaki Hirayama Mannendou inks in July

Office Vender inks in September

I had thought these would be unobtainable but I got them and like them a lot.

 

What is left are the following:

Voltaire Juni-Hitoe inks from Kyoto

Pens Alley Takeuchi inks

Stationary store kobayashi inks from Shizuoka

 

I passed on many of the inks swatches of which were posted by Miujojo, like those city of hirataka inks.

[Algester]

I think it would be complete, and I won't have the urge to buy more colours. New ones don't interested me anyway except the Ginza gold Sepia which I have 8 bottles of.

 

2017 has been a lucky year for ink acquisitions. I managed to get:

Rihei inks in February

Discontinued Joyful-2 Honda and It sunrise inks in June

Tomiya inks in June

Hirosaki Hirayama Mannendou inks in July

Office Vender inks in September

I had thought these would be unobtainable but I got them and like them a lot.

 

What is left are the following:

Voltaire Juni-Hitoe inks from Kyoto

Pens Alley Takeuchi inks

Stationary store kobayashi inks from Shizuoka

 

I passed on many of the inks swatches of which were posted by Miujojo, like those city of hirataka inks.

I too request for updates if you can find any of the Voltaire Juni-Hitoe inks as I have long since crossed that out as discontinued and unobtainable

[Mew]

I too request for updates if you can find any of the Voltaire Juni-Hitoe inks as I have long since crossed that out as discontinued and unobtainable

They came back in stock last year in September but I was late in ordering and they were sold out. So they still exist, but as always very sporadically.

[Mew]

 

For example: I think when they make a huge vat full of Jentle Rikyu-cha, they also bottle some of it as Pen & Message Cigar. They are just not different enough to warrant two huge vats of ink. There must be other examples.

Very interesting theory. Though I did ask the Pen & Message Proprietor and he said that both are different with cigar being based on Rikyu-cha with some subtle differences. I guess you need to have an eye for nuances because I do see a difference in both, both in colour and performance. It will be hard to see and feel that in hosepipe nibs though where even Robert Oster Ng special 2016 would be smooth and wet.

[Tinjapan]

Looking for the reading of this KN Genji Monogatari ink. 瑠璃君.

 

The readings I can find are “Rurikun” but I am doubtful. 瑠璃 has links to Lapis Lazuli but I an trying to learn the reading and meaning of this name.

[Algester]

Looking for the reading of this KN Genji Monogatari ink. 瑠璃君.

 

The readings I can find are “Rurikun” but I am doubtful. 瑠璃 has links to Lapis Lazuli but I an trying to learn the reading and meaning of this name.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/玉鬘_(%E6%BA%90%E6%B0%8F%E7%89%A9%E8%AA%9E)

 

Ruri no Kimi? all I can understand its that it's Tamakatsura's childhood name

related to Yugao and To no Chujo, and being the wife of Higekuro

Edited November 22, 2017 by Algester

[Tinjapan]

That is helpful. I tried finding this name among a list of characters on Genji Monogatari but did not see it. I am confused by “ and being the wife of...” In modern Japanese, Kun and in the not so distant past Kimi are used for men.

[ENewton]

Kimi can also be used for a woman. My cat's name is Akashi no Kimi, after another female character in Genji Monogatari.

 

Tamakazura is the daughter of Yugao and To no Chujo, the latter of whom is a good friend and sometime rival of Prince Genji. Tamakazura has multiple unwelcome suitors but eventually marries Higekuro.

[Tinjapan]

I have known women Named “Kimi” but have not run across it as title other than in WWII movies in which it was used for men , seemingly between good friends.

 

Thanks.

 

Now, in the ink name, the is no “の” between the Kuri and Kimi. Although, I seem to remember “no” being spoken even when not written.

 

So, what is your reading of “瑠璃君”?

[Algester]

http://readingthetaleofgenji.blogspot.com/2008/05/tamakazura.html

it seems its accepted alternate reading is Ruri-kimi, Ruri-gimi depending on which romanji rules you are following

but seems Murasaki Shikibu omitted calling her part of Fujiwara so I guess made me think of Ruri no Kimi

Edited November 26, 2017 by Algester

[Tinjapan]

Thanks.

 

T

[Arctic_Wolf]

 

By 'standard' colour I didn't intend to mean just Jentle Blue, Blue-black and Black, I meant to include all of their current Jentle range of colours, plus what have become their regular Kobe colours.

 

 

For example: I think when they make a huge vat full of Jentle Rikyu-cha, they also bottle some of it as Pen & Message Cigar. They are just not different enough to warrant two huge vats of ink. There must be other examples.

 

Rikyu-cha and Cigar are different, but without having them side-by-side it is extremely difficult to tell. I actually had to re-swab them in my ink journal back to back to make sure that they were different. I'm happy to post photos later, but with how similar they already look, and not having anything close to a professional setup I'm not sure if you'd see a difference anyways unless in person (my "camera" is the iphone 5 because I don't see a need to upgrade my phone unless it actually breaks).

[Mew]

 

(my "camera" is the iphone 5 because I don't see a need to upgrade my phone unless it actually breaks).

Me too. Still using 3 year old iPhone 6 Plus.