Sailor's Full Ink Lines Including Shop Exclusives Compiled In A Post?

[Chrissy]

IMHO what Sailor is doing is responding to a potential market. US users aren't prepared to accept chroma tests or ink writing tests, or even Sailor comparison tests, to confirm that these new colours are almost identical or are entirely identical to their older colours. They just want the older colours, in the older names, and are prepared to pay more for them than they are prepared to pay for their current copies. Some manufacturers would definitely respond in this way.

 

I'm rather pleased that Sailor UK haven't jumped onto the merry go round.

[white_lotus]

I'm a US user, I believe the re-issued inks are very similar to existing ones. I don't think it has anything to do with Sailor USA, which I don't think really exists. I agree that Sailor (Japan) thinks that these are inks that US users want. And if they can charge more, all the best. But one site has already discounted the new inks to $20.

 

Why is no one crying for Peche? They're bringing back that one too.

 

Now if Sailor had gone and sent their ink master to the US visiting their good Sailor-selling shops, such as Anderson Pens, Vanness, FPH, and perhaps others not as well known on the web market, and said: "OK. We'll make 6 custom inks for your shop, in the vase bottles. You get 50 or 100 bottles of each ink. If you run out, maybe next year we'll make more for you, maybe not. You in?" my guess is they'd all work up something.

 

And those inks would sell out, and people would bemoan not being able to get a bottle, etc. And the MSRP could have been $25 or $30. Even if the inks were similar to a Kobe ink, a Bungbox ink, a Kingdom Note ink, etc.

 

And that's the truth.

[ENewton]

I once saw someone buy a series of Sailor inks and then look up, on a mobile phone, what color each one was. "Oh, this one is a brown. This one is a green." They could have been exact matches for inks he already had. They could have been hideous. But they were Sailor.

 

Is there any reason to fear that this reissue will cause the existing Sailor 4 Seasons inks to be discontinued in the United States? I would be disappointed if Shigure became difficult to obtain.

[white_lotus]

There was mention on Japanese shop web pages that the reissues of Rikyu-cha, Irori, Chu-shu, Kin-mokusei, etc. were limited or special editions, but Sailor and the US ships have never said that is the case. Plus they have eight inks to replace, two for each of the seasons, and it doesn't make sense to have only six inks.

 

I'm actually not talking about whether inks are in such broad categories as "green", "brown", "red". If that was the case you might as well just buy one in each color and be done with it. This was the way things were back in the day: each pen manufacturer had 4 to 6, maybe 8 of the "standard colors". That was it. No one thought "oh this Sheaffer red is the perfect red, let me buy the Parker red, maybe it will be the perfect red." And when that wasn't exactly right, let's get the Waterman red, etc. They had one or two pens, maybe a couple more, one or two inks, and that was it. They were happy with what they had and it worked. Today we own a dozen pens or more (sometimes many more) and hundreds of inks, and no one is happy.

[Jan2016]

@ white lotus....

and how many whiskey are there....?

 

I am very happy with all the choices we have in color, and I chance very regularly.

The same for my pens.

 

Looking for the perfect ink is the same as looking for the perfect whiskey...

it is the wrong question

[KKay]

So the new colors are very similar, I get that. I have a question though. I have Tokiwa-matsu, and the color is lovely. I find it to be a little dry though. Is the Epinard a little more wet than the Tokiwa-matsu?

[miujojo32]

Inks from MITSUKOSHI

 

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[MCWB]

So the new colors are very similar, I get that. I have a question though. I have Tokiwa-matsu, and the color is lovely. I find it to be a little dry though. Is the Epinard a little more wet than the Tokiwa-matsu?

 

I think Epinard is slightly wetter, but I usually use them in pens that are already quite wet so I can't really say how different they'd be in a dry pen.

[KKay]

Thank you MCWB!

[white_lotus]

miujojo32, so no labels on either the nenrin or hana-hiraku bottles themselves? And it looks like nenrin is sold out, or not available on the web? Not that I'm trying to get a bottle, just didn't find it on the website, though I did find the pink.

[miujojo32]

I ask someone bought them for me in store.

 

I can also found the PINK in webstore.

 

The pink is very lovely.

 

http://mitsukoshi.mistore.jp/onlinestore/product/0150900000000000000000498927.html?rid=a73796f02d314245bafe5fc1f3f79704

[lgsoltek]

The pink looks nice. Reminds me of Onago-iro Heart Pink.

[Cyber6]

The pink looks nice. Reminds me of Onago-iro Heart Pink.

 

 

Don't get me wrong... is a very nice Pink. But, doesn't Sailor has at least three other pinks just like that. And don't ask me which ones... I dont' go for pinks, so I don't remember their names.. but this Pink seems too familiar.

 

 

 

C.

[lgsoltek]

 

 

Don't get me wrong... is a very nice Pink. But, doesn't Sailor has at least three other pinks just like that. And don't ask me which ones... I dont' go for pinks, so I don't remember their names.. but this Pink seems too familiar.

 

 

 

C.

 

Yeah you are right. I can think of the pink (xxx Rouge) from Kobe.

[haruka337]

You see... at the top... "Only in North America"

 

[image]

Neat!

 

I love Tokiwa-matsu, but it sure is dry for a Sailor ink. While similar in color, I hear Epinard is more lubricated. Will you be selling the ink, Claudia?

[Cyber6]

Neat!

 

I love Tokiwa-matsu, but it sure is dry for a Sailor ink. While similar in color, I hear Epinard is more lubricated. Will you be selling the ink, Claudia?

 

No not at all. My main goal is to facilitate access to quality handcrafted ink to the North America fountain pen and artist community. Sailor is quality, but Sailor is everywhere.. no need for me to carry them.

 

 

And I really can't remember Epinard being more lubricated, I am so use to wet pens, will not notice a slight difference. I think I will play with my Epinard and Tokiwa Matsu tonight.

 

 

 

C.

[swanjun]

Nagasawa posted on Facebook about two new Kobe colors, #63 and #64. Available now.

 

No.63 「東遊園地トーチオレンジ」

HIgashi Yuenchi Torch Orange (in apparent reference to this place)

 

No.64 「住吉山手ジェィドグリーン」

Sumiyoshiyamate Jade Green (in apparent reference to this place and the roof of the Hakutsuru Museum)

 

Pics on the Facebook post.

Edited May 13, 2017 by swanjun

[swanjun]

I realized I didn't have #62 on my own list, so here's that post.

 

No.62の「布引ラベンダー」

Nunobiki Lavender

[miujojo32]

TSUTAYA BOOKSTORE TAIWAN LIMITED

 

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[amberleadavis]

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