Dip Pen Inks In Fps?

[Icywolfe]

Yes, it's a sin. But I thought about it as KTC flows smoothly in my non-flex Ahab and then I saw a jar/bottle of Deleter ink on my desk. From the top they both seem to have the same consistency and very similar drying time while in/on the pen. So I have the urge to put a Deleter ink (Black #1) in my Ahab.

 

So the question is is there any precautions I should know about before doing this (besides the obvious don't let it dry up in the pen) and would the ink mess up the silicone grease? (Also it won't be a full filling I'll just suck up a little into the pen.)

[RMN]

Hey, it's your pen, but to me this is the fountainpen equivalent to Russian Roulette.

 

 

D.ick

[Icywolfe]

Hey, it's your pen, but to me this is the fountainpen equivalent to Russian Roulette.

 

 

D.ick

It's just both of those inks looks the same at a physical standpoint. Not sure about the chemical. I think the Deleter is pigment but I can't read Japanese.

[RMN]

I searched on Google, and Jetpens says it is NOT for FPs.

 

see link

 

http://www.jetpens.com/Deleter-Manga-Ink-30-ml-Bottle-Black-4-Waterproof-Extra-Dark/pd/8104

 

 

D.ick

[dcwaites]

Many dip pen inks will contain gum arabic or equivalent to help the ink bond to the paper. This ends up clogging up the feed of your fountain pen.

Only use inks that say they are for FPs.

[Wolverine1]

Hey if you want to kiil your pens, be my guest. It is for a reason that dip pen ink is not suppposed to be used in fountain pens. But, like I said, do whatever you like to, they are your pens to destroy, after all.

[spotted and speckled]

Wouldn't it be easier just to get some dip nibs? Ebay & 20 bucks will get you 10 years worth of dip nibs, or scroll back in the classifieds or look on etsy for JBB (Jill) whi has a bunch to sell. She will treat you right.

[Pippin60]

Wouldn't it be easier just to get some dip nibs? Ebay & 20 bucks will get you 10 years worth of dip nibs, or scroll back in the classifieds or look on etsy for JBB (Jill) whi has a bunch to sell. She will treat you right.

Any arts store should have them also. Dip pen inks sometimes also contain lacquer, you may ruin your pen forever, why take the chance..

[Runnin_Ute]

To me it isn't the worth the gamble - even on my least expensive pens.

[kidde]

What happens is it will harden in layers. Slowly. Your assumption that it isn't drying in your pen is just that. Water and alcohol look the same. It's at a level the naked eye can't observe where things get "interesting". Take two paint brushes, fp ink on one with dip pen ink or the other. Tomorrow you can clean the fp ink off using water. The solvent required to clean the other may eat your pen.

Thought I'd provide an easy test instead of repeating cautions. Some of us need to touch the stove to realize it's hot.

 

Paul

[wastelanded]

In a word: No.

[lynxcat]

well, it IS an Ahab. built to be easy to disassemble and maintain, and not that very costly --- most likely case you'll end up having to pull the nib and feed with some minor violence, and spend several hours getting dried ink out of your pen and feed with ammonia solution and some pipe cleaners or somesuch. absolute worst case, you're out an Ahab; that's, what, twenty dollars?

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

I am amongst those who have tried some non-FP inks in an expendable FP, and I completely agree with prior posts.

 

What I did learn from that exercise in curiosity & blonde optimism is that there are perfectly good dip pen nibs available that meet my needs. For example, I like the Brause Ornamental nibs for simple monoline writing. Those have over-under removable aux reservoirs, so one can write at length with even ink flow, and avoid a tedious clean-up process. Indeed, when I need quick samples of a blended ink recipe or have but a short bit of writing to do with an FP ink, those nibs often come out to play, primarily due to ease & speed of clean-up.

 

Bye,

S1

Edited July 29, 2014 by Sandy1

[amberleadavis]

Hi,

 

I am amongst those who have tried some non-FP inks in an expendable FP, and I completely agree with prior posts.

 

What I did learn from that exercise in curiosity & blonde optimism is that there are perfectly good dip pen nibs available that meet my needs. For example, I like the Brause Ornamental nibs for simple monoline writing. Those have over-under removable aux reservoirs, so one can write at length with even ink flow, and avoid a tedious clean-up process. Indeed, when I need quick samples of a blended ink recipe or have but a short bit of writing to do with an FP ink, those nibs often come out to play, primarily due to ease & speed of clean-up.

 

Bye,

S1

 

 

Okay, Sandy, I took your name in vain again.

[Sasha Royale]

In other words, you have no idea what is in the dip pen ink. Do you know what makes it different from

fountain pen ink ? Doesn't this sound like a bad idea to you ?

 

Fountain pen ink ONLY in fountain pens.

[dcwaites]

That's what cheap ($3 Platinum Preppies, $5 Jinhaos and Kaigelus) FPs are for.

Experimental inks go in my cheapy pens, Iroshizuku and Sailor in my ProGear.

[Joshua J.]

Hi,

 

I am amongst those who have tried some non-FP inks in an expendable FP, and I completely agree with prior posts.

 

What I did learn from that exercise in curiosity & blonde optimism is that there are perfectly good dip pen nibs available that meet my needs. For example, I like the Brause Ornamental nibs for simple monoline writing. Those have over-under removable aux reservoirs, so one can write at length with even ink flow, and avoid a tedious clean-up process. Indeed, when I need quick samples of a blended ink recipe or have but a short bit of writing to do with an FP ink, those nibs often come out to play, primarily due to ease & speed of clean-up.

 

Bye,

S1

Hmm, what kind of trouble did you have?

 

I've been using Magic Color Solar Scarled in my red Bexley for years now with no problems whatsoever.

I have a feeling the "dip pen" specific inks are a bit of a different story though.