Inky T O D - The Perfect Ink Bottle For An Exclusive Ink.

[Algester]

the reminded me of Dan's videos and remembered this ink bottle

http://www.edelberg.ch/Edelberg_-_haute_manufacture/Edelberg_easyfill_files/shapeimage_16.png

[AllenG]

The Parker Penman bottles are still being made in China, now in oval rather than circular shape. Picaso ink is sold in them.

However, you do need to remember that when inverting to fill the little inkwell in the neck, put the lid on first.

 

However, what capacity bottles are needed? And how many? And if one is going to go for truly unique bottles (i.e. totally different design from anything else on the market) then you are looking at a special design and manufacturing run. How much do you want to pay for some glass to wrap around the ink?

 

I would not like the TWSBI bottles because they cost more than the ink you put in them.

 

How about these bottles?

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/GIgAAMXQsoNRh3vh/$T2eC16h,!)EE9s2uiwPRBRh3vg89W!~~60_12.JPG

They come in 50 and 100 mls, cost less than $4 or $5, are brown (doesn't show the ink well, but does protect from UV) and have eyedroppers (a la 125 ml Noodler's bottles).

I use these in my darkroom. Too small of an opening for a pen.

[inkstainedruth]

I've been looking recently at bottles in various sizes for myself, in order to decant some larger amounts of vintage ink into manageable size bottles (which ended up in a weird discussion of semantics with the husband about the difference between what is an ink bottle and what is an inkwell). I want cheap, small quantities (not doing the "96 per case" BS and the caps extra). I have pretty much narrowed it down to amber glass "Boston Rounds" but trying to decide between 4 oz and 8 oz bottles, and maybe some smaller jars with wide mouths for actual filling pens from; I did buy a couple of small hexagonal glass jars at the local Pat Catan's (discount craft store chain) but they're clear glass, so they only would be for inkwells if they work (i'm a bit concerned about the metal caps). OTOH, if they don't work out they were 77¢ apiece. I'm also trying to decide whether the eyedropper bottles or the phenolic caps would be better for the larger storage bottles (I keep going back and forth on this). I have a roughly 3/4 full 16 oz. bottle of Skrip Peacock Blue, and a possibly never opened 8 oz bottle of Quink Violet. The Skrip seems to have some sort of pour cap (but I want to transfer it into smaller containers because it's too tall to fit in the boxes I keep ink in); the Quink has a rubber stopper and some sort of wick, but I don't have a pouring spout (and envision an epic disaster -- one to make the saga of the almost full bottle of KTC vs. my bathroom floor pale in comparison) in trying to get the rubber stopper out (and I have zero hope of getting it back into the bottle again...).

So far, the best prices in small quantities appears to be from a place that specializes in home schooling science classes. The next best was a place in Florida who had listings on Etsy (of all places), because they had free shipping (I'm envisioning only needing 4-6 of the 4 oz bottles at most for my needs).

I like the look of the French squares, but haven't really found them in amber glass. I love the look of cobalt glass, but it's a lot pricier than the amber.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[AAAndrew]

Wow, Ruth! What a problem to have.

 

Yeah, I can just see the fun I'd have trying to decant from a large bottle of ink into smaller ones. Large, Glass, Pipette, is all I would say.

 

Good luck! And that violet is gorgeous if it's still intact. I've seen some once from about the 50's (IIRC) and I remember it as being really great.

[AllenG]

So far, the best prices in small quantities appears to be from a place that specializes in home schooling science classes.

That sounds like the same website I've used to buy a lot of lab glass for my darkroom. Their Pyrex tends to be a bit thinner than what I've gotten from other sources. That said, I still buy from them. I just put my more expensive chemicals (platinum salts and such) in thicker bottles to hopefully avoid bottle vs floor disasters. For everything else I love their cheap stuff. Hell, half of my kitchen glassware is now their cheap beakers. Edited July 14, 2014 by AllenG

[napalm]

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/SB402-lovely-resin-snuff-bottle-pretty-oriental-erotic-couple/1805877384.html

 

[inkstainedruth]

Wow, Ruth! What a problem to have.

 

Yeah, I can just see the fun I'd have trying to decant from a large bottle of ink into smaller ones. Large, Glass, Pipette, is all I would say.

 

Good luck! And that violet is gorgeous if it's still intact. I've seen some once from about the 50's (IIRC) and I remember it as being really great.

I'm thinking a small funnel, myself -- and pouring *very* slowly. And having the new bottle(s) inside the small dish tub I use for when I'm flushing out pens, so if there's a lot of ink it will go into the tub before making a complete mess in the bathroom sink or down the drain.

The Quink Violet appears to be in good shape (I'm not seeing anything that looks like SITB in it). Got it on Ebay last year, and didn't seem to have ever been opened -- the seller called it "museum quality". I was all excited when it came, but then discovered that I couldn't just open it and use it (it apparently needs some sort of pouring spout, which of course was *not* included in the sale.

I got a bit of the Skrip Peacock on my fingers when I was trying to see if I would have the same issues as with the Quink bottle cap. Great color, but it took a couple of days to get it off my fingers! I'm estimating that there's somewhere between ten and twelve ounces left in the bottle.

Actually looked at the link that someone provided (bottle solutions.com) and those looked initially like they were a fraction cheaper than the site I found, called "Home Science Tools" (www.hometrainingtools.com/); but I couldn't find where they had shipping charges listed (Home Science Tools does flat shipping rates); also, the bottles and caps have to be ordered separately, which is sort of a pain, and adds to the cost.

Ruth Morrisson aka instainedruth

[DavidB]

Are you talking about?

http://www.foresta.net/show.asp?categoria=60

 

I like ref IN-0007-01

That's nice. I also like IN-0004-01.

[Chris]

Penman bottles looked lovely (especially when filled with Sapphire) but the caps tended to stick (especially with Sapphire). MB shoe bottles are, well, MB's though I think the older style tended not to stick as much as the newer squarer ones.

 

I know, I should wipe the threads, but do you?

 

Lamy bottles are great, even if the ink is not the most exciting. The glass Visconti bottles were also great (the blue ink is lovely too) and you can get to the last drop of ink in both of these.

 

Otherwise, it is just a variation on a little jar

[Newjelan]

I thought I might have something of value to add to this thread and diligently read every post (to ensure I didn't repeat others' points). Instead I have learnt something surprising about myself. I'm an aesthete, with a passion for architecture and design. (I already knew this) However, from reading this thread I've learnt that if I love the ink I fall in love with the bottle. So form follows function. Therefore, develop a beautiful ink, put it in a simple and functional bottle and I'm sold.

[kwzi]

The problem is not the bottle, but the cap!

Glass works or crystal glass works can prepare beautiful inkwells in reasonable prices if you order something around 500 bottles. But the problem is proper closing of those inkwells - we either have cheap plastic caps on the market or we are forced to buy several thousands of caps.

[CaptainBA]

I really like functional bottles or cheap bottles. Something like the Mont Blanc bottles or the Noodler's bottles. I really don't care about the packaging when I buy pen stuff. I'd rather the company work on what they're trying to sell (pen, ink, pen accessory, etc) rather than put extra cost into the boxes that I'll recycle or throw away.

[Dillo]

 

I like the octagons too.

 

Codice: IN-0007-01 http://www.foresta.net/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.foresta.net/images/products/OTTAGONALE%2040%20%2014%20x.jpg http://www.foresta.net/images/spacer.gif 116 Ingrandisci FLACONE OTTAGONALE ML. 40

 

 

VIF provides bottle for Diamine, Aurora, OMAS, and in recent years, Montblanc (the round bottle for the limited edition inks. I even have a bottle from somewhere that is made by VIF and identical to the Montblanc limited edition bottles). Personally, I would go with the octagonal bottle. I think it's pretty not to mention that it is off the shelf and would probably work quite well.

 

Dillon

[raging.dragon]

 

VIF provides bottle for Diamine, Aurora, OMAS, and in recent years, Montblanc (the round bottle for the limited edition inks. I even have a bottle from somewhere that is made by VIF and identical to the Montblanc limited edition bottles). Personally, I would go with the octagonal bottle. I think it's pretty not to mention that it is off the shelf and would probably work quite well.

 

Dillon

 

The octagonal VIF bottle is probably the same octagonal bottle used by Montegrappa for their ink.

[Dillo]

 

The octagonal VIF bottle is probably the same octagonal bottle used by Montegrappa for their ink.

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were true. OMAS might be one of the few that has their own custom bottle from VIF.

 

Dillon

[amberleadavis]

Reality check.

 

Maybe this 55ml hexagon bottle will fit the bill. I found it online for .49 USD if you buy more than 120 bottles.

 

 

http://www.specialtybottle.com/hexagonandcandlejarsmi.aspx

[alc3261]

Recently, several of the mods have been discussing a potential new FPN exclusive ink (that's another thread). One request has been that the FPN bottle be unique. Dcroe05 and I spent some time trying to find a perfect ink bottle.

 

So, if you could call it, what would the FPN exclusive ink bottle look like? If you have pictures or a link, that would be most helpful. Remember, cost is a factor so those stunning Lalique perfume bottles are not within the budget - though maybe at the right price we could change our minds.

 

Tell me us thoughts.

 

Amber

A bottle like the Akkerman inks come in?

[amberleadavis]

If you can find where we can buy them, I'm all in.

[Algester]

my gut feeling tells me this bottle is at least the larger form of the 20ml Iroshizuku inks

http://i.imgur.com/G7yQNMNl.jpg

if you do not know about the Ink it's from kakimori Japan

Edited October 2, 2014 by Algester

[amberleadavis]

OOOO that's a cute bottle.