Handwritten Vladimir Script?

[SkylarKnight]

Hello!
I just looked trough my Office word fonts, and found this lovely one called Vladimir Script. I am thinking it would be perfect for me to practice, as it has all the elements I like, while not being too fancy (e.g, Edwardian).
However, I could not find an online guide to handwriting it. Perhaps it's called something else? Or does nobody use it at all? If the second is correct, what a shame!
So here I am asking for any pieces of knowledge you have.
Have a good day!

 

http://i.imgur.com/7pMKUWL.png



Edited so everyone can see the same font ^^"

Edited June 25, 2014 by SkylarKnight

[inkstainedruth]

Typeset fonts are not necessarily the same thing as handwritten penmanship/calligraphy. BTW -- the font you said you used didn't come through -- in typesetting, "italic" generally refers to slanted versions of regular fonts, which I'm not seeing on my screen; when I googled Rage Italic, I found an image of it on identifont.com, which describes it as "A casual brush script with the appearance of pen on parchment.") [url: http://www.identifont.com/samples/itc/RageItalic.gif]. The number of fonts available on FPN is actually pretty limited; it looks as if what you typed came through in Times New Roman.

That being said, I could see where you could want use that particular one as an exemplar. Maybe you could print off an enlarged version of it, and see if you can figure out the stroke angles for each letter (this definitely would be one for a nib with a lot of flex, but I can't tell if you would have to twist the nib in order to get the right strokes (I took calligraphy back in college, and that one is something I remember from the Roman Rustic hand) or have to pick up the pen a lot.

Another option is to go see if there is a hand on the IAMPETH website that looks close but is a real cursive, not a font designed for typesetting.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

edited for typos

Edited June 24, 2014 by inkstainedruth

[SkylarKnight]

The "Rage Italic" is a font I found on Word. I have no idea how they decide on the font names, so I can't tell you haha. I suppose you wouldn't see the font if you don't have it installed on your computer, as it is possible to use fonts other than what's given on the forums given you have them installed (simply go to the html screen, and instead of your chosen font write the one you desire to show up).

The picture you sent me is exactly what it looks like in that text above

 

I couldnt find the Vladimir script anywhere, it seems like no one uses it in handwriting. I think I will have a lot of trouble figuring the strokes, as I never learned how to properly write cursive what so ever, so I will probably mess it up. However, I will look into the website you suggested, perhaps I find something even more appealing

 

Thank you very much.

[SkylarKnight]

I looked up IAMPETH, but I haven't found anywhere to look at fonts there.. perhaps I am missing something?

[dneal]

I looked at "Rage Italic" in Word, and the font you show above. Combined with your comment of "I think I will have a lot of trouble figuring the strokes, as I never learned how to properly write cursive what so ever, so I will probably mess it up..." I think I understand what you're asking.

 

Generally, those two fonts are just variations of "American" or "Palmer" cursive. There are plenty of resources for that on the internet, and they will show you the strokes. Using that as a foundation, it's just a matter of practicing the variations or embellishments you prefer.

[Randal6393]

I would disagree that this is a variation of Palmer cursive -- the strokes are all wrong for Palmer. However, the shape of the letter, the slight thickening of the ascenders and "vertical" strokes, the angle of the letters, all lead me to believe the font was based upon Copperplate/Engrossing Script/Engraver's Script/Roundhand. You may not be able to find a formal template for this font, SkylarKnight, but IAMPETH has much information on Copperplate and its derivatives.

 

Dr. Joe Vitolo's videos are excellent for studying how to write Copperplate. To do the script properly, you will need a (slightly) flexible pen, either fountain or dip. Would recommend starting with a dip pen, either straight or oblique holder, and a bottle of Higgins Eternal.

 

Best of luck to you,

[SkylarKnight]

I would disagree that this is a variation of Palmer cursive -- the strokes are all wrong for Palmer. However, the shape of the letter, the slight thickening of the ascenders and "vertical" strokes, the angle of the letters, all lead me to believe the font was based upon Copperplate/Engrossing Script/Engraver's Script/Roundhand. You may not be able to find a formal template for this font, SkylarKnight, but IAMPETH has much information on Copperplate and its derivatives.

 

Dr. Joe Vitolo's videos are excellent for studying how to write Copperplate. To do the script properly, you will need a (slightly) flexible pen, either fountain or dip. Would recommend starting with a dip pen, either straight or oblique holder, and a bottle of Higgins Eternal.

 

Best of luck to you,

Oh wow, thank you for the information. I was suspecting I would find something in the Copperplate section on that website, I will go back and check on that.

 

Does the ink matter? my Quink black is on the way, and other inks I looked at are.. very expensive, considering $1 is 3NIS (I live in Israel) [so it's triple the cost for me ^^"].

 

Ad on the holders, I will read myself. However, I will have a normal self-made holder, and a very comfortable one, btw.

 

Have a nice day!

[Randal6393]

Oh wow, thank you for the information. I was suspecting I would find something in the Copperplate section on that website, I will go back and check on that.

 

Does the ink matter? my Quink black is on the way, and other inks I looked at are.. very expensive, considering $1 is 3NIS (I live in Israel) [so it's triple the cost for me ^^"].

 

Ad on the holders, I will read myself. However, I will have a normal self-made holder, and a very comfortable one, btw.

 

Have a nice day!

Well, Quink Black isn't ideal for dip pens since QB was made to use in fountain pens. But it should do very well. Since you are in Israel, perhaps you can find someone that works with the Hebrew or Arabic writing and uses inks for quills. That should work well with dip pens. If you do find something, let us know. And keep us informed. We want to help people add to their skills and love to hear back from those we have helped.

 

Enjoy,

 

PS: Several of the 1860's-era books at IAMPETH deal with steel nibs and dip pens and have a lot of very useful information. Especially the Spencer books (on Spencerian, of course). And YouTube has a number of videos on using pens, brushes, and various artist's media. That may also be of help to you.

Edited June 26, 2014 by Randal6393

[SkylarKnight]

Well, Quink Black isn't ideal for dip pens since QB was made to use in fountain pens. But it should do very well. Since you are in Israel, perhaps you can find someone that works with the Hebrew or Arabic writing and uses inks for quills. That should work well with dip pens. If you do find something, let us know. And keep us informed. We want to help people add to their skills and love to hear back from those we have helped.

 

Enjoy,

 

PS: Several of the 1860's-era books at IAMPETH deal with steel nibs and dip pens and have a lot of very useful information. Especially the Spencer books (on Spencerian, of course). And YouTube has a number of videos on using pens, brushes, and various artist's media. That may also be of help to you.

Ah! I didn't think about those inks, I will look into them (those are called kosher inks, btw, I believe). If I find something, I will tell you

Also, I intended to use my dip pen for drawing on nails using acrylic paint (diluted in water). Would that work for practicing? Those paints are good quality, pretty smooth.

I will have 3 nibs though, so I can make another pen to use with the ink, if I find it

 

 

I will look into those books, sounds interesting!

 

Good night

[Ted F]

The font you show in the first post which you call Vladmir Script is very, very close to the way I learned script back in the 1940s. My formation of the letters today is very close to this, especially the lowercase letters (although not so perfect).

[dneal]

I would disagree that this is a variation of Palmer cursive -- the strokes are all wrong for Palmer. However, the shape of the letter, the slight thickening of the ascenders and "vertical" strokes, the angle of the letters, all lead me to believe the font was based upon Copperplate/Engrossing Script/Engraver's Script/Roundhand. You may not be able to find a formal template for this font, SkylarKnight, but IAMPETH has much information on Copperplate and its derivatives.

 

Dr. Joe Vitolo's videos are excellent for studying how to write Copperplate. To do the script properly, you will need a (slightly) flexible pen, either fountain or dip. Would recommend starting with a dip pen, either straight or oblique holder, and a bottle of Higgins Eternal.

 

Best of luck to you,

 

She said she had never learned to write cursive, and would have trouble figuring out the strokes. The strokes for American cursive are very similar to the strokes in the font above. No, they're not exactly the same, but if you don't know what directions the pen should go in order to write in a cursive script; a primer for American cursive is a good start and readily available. You can then adapt the concept to get the font you want.