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Ok...Alaric has shown me the way of the tomoe. I will post pictures.

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I haven't had a lot of success with inks that are supposed to sheen to actually exhibit the behavior. :( OTOH, I once got sheen out of Kung Te Cheng (which I used to consider slightly chalky...).

To get sheen, it seems to be not just wetter nibs, but also broader ones to work best as well as using slicker paper. And then you have to look at the paper in the right light (i.e., sunny daylight) and at an angle. Except DCSSB, which sheens if you look at it crosswise; but then, in my experience it takes about a month to fully dry and not still be smudgy....

There does seem to be some correlation with ink color sheening its complement on the color wheel, but not completely so: for most of ones I have experience with, the blue inks sheen red, but so does green (and green sometimes sheens gold). Purple inks also tend to shade gold (which IMO is kind of a bummer -- I've been searching for a dark purple or burgundy-purple that sheens red, but so far have come up empty; I was on a quest last fall to try and find a fountain pen ink that matched the color and sheen of some gel pen ink in a thank you card I was sent...).

:huh: I'm now wondering if the color of sheen is partially derived from the base components in the particular ink (after having seen some chromatography test results posted in other threads).

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Wow. I keep learning, which is the point of the Inky TODs.

 

I tried a few inks on the Tomoe and the Rhodia papers. Let me say that some inks (Blue eel) just won't dry on Tomoe paper. Here is my funny (to me) recounting.

 

Okay, even in a scan you can see sheen on the 4 B ink (Bung Box Blue Black).

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_554.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_543.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I did see the sheen on the Yama Budo / Tomoe and you can see it on the H in the scan.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_544.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

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Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I never did get DBS to sheen.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_545.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_546.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I really thought I would see sheen from Levenger Regal. I did not. I think a broader nib would have made a difference.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_547.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

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Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't think I'll ever see it from Levenger Skies of Blue, even though this M nib (Esterbrook Loaner Program) is a very wet writer.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_548.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, I think Tanzanite should be a sheener, but I agree the broader nibs are better, this is a medium.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_549.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

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Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This one I have gotten sheen from before, but in this medium nib, no sheen.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_550.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Ink_Companies/NI/slides/2013-07-21_NI_Purple_Sheen.png

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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But, the same inks in the same pens, on Rhodia paper, did not show any sheen.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_551.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In my experience, not a lot of Diamine and old Caran d'Ache inks sheen overmuch. Especially the ones you tried. Red Dragon? Nope. Grand Canyon? Nope again. Misty Blue? Definitely not.

 

If you want a C d'A or Diamine ink that sheens, try Amazon and Midnight respectively.

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC09959.jpg

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC00031_zpsb2642946.jpg

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/261536-about-my-reviews/
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To test this hypothesis one just need access to something that can create a surface image of paper, like a scanning electron microscope.

A friend of mine who works across the street has one (a scanning electron microscope) in his lab!

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A friend of mine who works across the street has one (a scanning electron microscope) in his lab!

Excellent place to start! Would they mind lending it for a little inky research? :))

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I am getting what appears to be sheen from plain old, plain old Platinum Blue/black (iron gall). Nib used was a broad TWBI nib using Sustainable Earth Sugar Cane paper (Bagasse sp?)

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I just did some samples with different paper. I started with the inks that were already inked up. I have some theories.....

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

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Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Theory 1 - Paper is critical. It is not sufficient, but the right kind of paper is necessary.

 

Here is Noodler's eel. I've never seen sheen from it before.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inked_Today/slides/20140605_145110.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ooh that's pretty, I love the variation of the color

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So, this paper is miserable to use if it has been bent, folded or wrinkled.

 

This is Private Reserve Purple Mojo on the same paper.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inked_Today/slides/20140605_145258.jpg

 

But it's not enough to be a saturated ink, and the paper alone is not sufficient. Hence Pilot/Iroshizuku Fuyu-Gaki would not sheen on any paper.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inked_Today/slides/20140605_145235.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I suddenly cannot see your pictures AmberLeaDavis, is it just me?

"One always looking for flaws leaves too little time for construction" ...

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