Need A Fountain Pen For Comicbook Inking

[Robob]

Hello FPN I'm a new member and a total rookie concerning FPs.

The last couple of days i've been trying to figure out what to buy and where.

 

Since my needs aren't quite the same as people looking for a great writing tool and my knowledge is lacking.

I thought I would join this forum and tell what kind of line I need with the hope that you guys can steer me in the right direction. I live in EU and if you have experience getting a pen from someone in this region i'd love to know.

 

I need a pen for inking pencil drawings, It must be able to create a line variation starting at a 0.3/0,4 mm line and going as thick/fat as possible. i'd prefer as smooth an experience as possible using the pen.

Looks are not important, this is a work pen so it's more important that it's easy to refill and works well each time I need it.

 

It is my understanding that vintage flex nibs/wet noodle nibs are probably the way I should go but are they dependable? Should I buy a modern pen from someone who can modify it for more flex.

 

My biggest concern is that I start inking a comic with a vintage pen of some sort and it breaks not allowing me the same line for the rest of the comic.

 

Do any of you guys have experience doing line variation drawings with a fountain pen then please let me know.

 

I hope you guys understand what I'm looking for and got just the right answer xD

Edited April 21, 2014 by Robob

[Sandy1]

 

Hi,

 

Kindly consider the 'fude' nibs used for Asian calligraphy.

 

One can use the entire length of the angled nib for lines of various width, and the tip for narrow lines.

 

Unlike flex nibs, the fude nib allows one to start/end a line with any width; there is no need to vary the writing pressure [weight] to spread the tines; and one is spared dealing with the snap-back of spread tines.

 

Fortunately, fude nibs can be had without hard tipping, which allows one to sharpen and smooth the tip with a micromesh sheet; and lowers the cost, which makes it possible find serviceable low-cost pens - likely shipping will cost more than one simple pen. e.g. Sailor DE Brush Stroke calligraphy pen

 

Also, we have the contribution of craftsmen, such as Richard Binder, who tempts us with the tour-de-force CONDOR™ nib - shaped in the opposite direction of a fude nib. http://www.richardspens.com/pops/nibs/condor.htm

 

In addition, some [Asian] pen makers offer 'zoom' nibs, which have some of the characteristics of the fude nib, but as those are not bent, only the portion of the nib with tipping is used, hence far less line-width variation is possible.

 

Bye,

S1

 

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See also: Review by Member aenjin of a Sailor brand pen with a 55° fude nib : https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/246580-sailor-brush-style-fude-de-mannen-fp-with-55%cb%9a-angle-nib/?p=2687784

Edited April 21, 2014 by Sandy1

[theverdictis]

What kind of comics do you draw?

 

Ben

[Robob]

 

Hi,

 

Kindly consider the 'fude' nibs used for Asian calligraphy.

 

One can use the entire length of the angled nib for lines of various width, and the tip for narrow lines.

 

Unlike flex nibs, the fude nib allows one to start/end a line with any width; there is no need to vary the writing pressure [weight] to spread the tines; and one is spared dealing with the snap-back of spread tines.

 

Fortunately, most fude nibs do not have hard tipping, which allows one to sharpen and smooth the tip with a micromesh sheet; and lowers the cost, which makes it possible find serviceable low-cost pens - likely shipping will cost more than one simple pen.

 

Also, some [Asian] pen makers offer 'zoom' nibs, which have some of the characteristics of the fude nib, but as those are not bent, only with the portion of the nib with tipping is used, hence far less line-width variation is possible.

 

In addition, we have the contribution of craftsmen, such as Richard Binder, who bring us a tour-de-force such as his CONDOR™ nib. http://www.richardspens.com/pops/nibs/condor.htm

 

Bye,

S1

 

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See also: Review by Member aenjin of a Sailor brand pen with a 55° fude nib : https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/246580-sailor-brush-style-fude-de-mannen-fp-with-55%cb%9a-angle-nib/?p=2687784

 

 

Thanks Sandy Ill check those fude nibs out.. I'm fully aware that I wont get a fountainpen that acts like the dip pens i use now and it might be worth looking closer at those. My technigue when drawing are based on pressure giving width like with brushes or dip nibs.

 

What kind of comics do you draw?

 

Ben

 

Hey Ben right now I'm attending a bachelor in graphic storytelling and drawing whatever homework our many brilliant teachers assign us.

[requiescat]

I second the fude. I've been able to frankenpen a Hero M86 fude nib into a Noodler's flex pen (that is, putting the M86 nib and feed into the Noodler's body, which I find more comfortable).

 

(Sorry, rough scan. When I get home, I can get you a scan showing the possible line variation &c., if you'd like.)

 

http://yoonhalee.com/images-hxx/hxx-cartoon003.png

[theverdictis]

Aww nice. Had a friend who did animation at uni, his ex went onto work with Tim Burton on the corpse bride film.

 

Ben

[j.a.j.]

Have you considered Ackermans pump pens for dip pen nibs? People have very mixed opinions about them but it might be an option. I ordered one for Zebra G nibs and am waiting for it to arrive, which could take a while.. If i understood correctly Zebra G nibs don't rust as easily as some other nibs on Ackerman pump pens if not cleaned right after use.

 

It is not easy to find nib modern fountain pen nib that flexes from 0.3 to few millimeters with little pressure. I have read few articles praising Noodlers Ahab with Easy my Flex modification https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/240492-noodlers-ahab-ease-my-flex-mod/ so that could be an option. Have not tried this myself.

 

Fountain Pen Revolution's Dilli is one option for modern semi-flex which is in many ways comparable to unmodified Ahab. But you need to use quite much pressure.

 

Vintage pens / nibs on modern pens are one (more expensive) option.

[Robob]

I second the fude. I've been able to frankenpen a Hero M86 fude nib into a Noodler's flex pen (that is, putting the M86 nib and feed into the Noodler's body, which I find more comfortable).

 

(Sorry, rough scan. When I get home, I can get you a scan showing the possible line variation &c., if you'd like.)

 

 

 

cool drawing xD Nice of you to ask but I saw it in a review and have decided to buy one along with another pen since its so cheap.

 

The fude nib is very interesting but i also want to try a nib that gives line variation through pressure.

 

 

Have you considered Ackermans pump pens for dip pen nibs? People have very mixed opinions about them but it might be an option. I ordered one for Zebra G nibs and am waiting for it to arrive, which could take a while.. If i understood correctly Zebra G nibs don't rust as easily as some other nibs on Ackerman pump pens if not cleaned right after use.

 

It is not easy to find nib modern fountain pen nib that flexes from 0.3 to few millimeters with little pressure. I have read few articles praising Noodlers Ahab with Easy my Flex modification https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/240492-noodlers-ahab-ease-my-flex-mod/ so that could be an option. Have not tried this myself.

 

Fountain Pen Revolution's Dilli is one option for modern semi-flex which is in many ways comparable to unmodified Ahab. But you need to use quite much pressure.

 

Vintage pens / nibs on modern pens are one (more expensive) option.

 

I have briefly looked through some reviews/posts on the ackerman and will probably try one at some point later, the ahab looks interesting.

 

i wonder what the difference in line variation width and performance are for the falcon and justus compared to the Ahab. I'm not cheap when it comes to my tools I just don't wanna pay alot extra for beauty.

 

I just might buy an ahab with the fude when I order anyways, where do people in europe buy their pens online?

Edited April 22, 2014 by Robob

[j.a.j.]

I do not personally own Justus or Falcon. To my understanding Justus flexes more than unmodified Ahab which gives more flex than Falcon but i could be wrong. A point worth considering is that sprung Ahab nib will not irritate you as much as sprung vintage, Falcon or Justus nib. Ahab's have much more steep learning curve than Falcon or Justus but in the end it might be worth you while.

 

There are a few nice estores based in Europe, Cultpens and The Writing Desk for example. I have bought almost all of my asian and Noodler's and pens from Ebay but keep in mind that you most probably end up paying import duties. Amazon does sometimes surprice posively.

Edited April 24, 2014 by j.a.j.