Edelstein Inks Fading On Moleskine?

[Tanzanite]

A few weeks ago I tried some of my inks and pens on Moleskine paper and have left the paper on a table. It has not been exposed to sunlight.

Two Pelikan Edelstein inks has faded. Ruby has almost disappeared and Turmaline has faded a bit. Has anyone else experiensed this? Is it the ink or the paper? Or perhaps the combination? Some of the other inks seem to have changed slightly in colour.

[casualmerlinconstant]

Strange. Maybe its the left over alkalinity/acidity on the paper? From what I can tell most papers are a bit acidic from the manufacturing processes.I haven't noticed topaz (my only edelstein ink) fading.

Edited April 13, 2014 by superglueshoe

[Tanzanite]

I love Edelstein inks and use Jade and Tanzanite almost daily and have not had any problem with them.

I think Moleskine is acid free and no ink should fade in only four weeks.

[casualmerlinconstant]

You'd be suprised at how quickly quink fades haha. But yes I agree your inks shouldn't be doing that.

[Tanzanite]

You'd be suprised at how quickly quink fades haha. But yes I agree your inks shouldn't be doing that.

Quink? I have been using that for 35 years and never experiensed any problems with fading.

[amberleadavis]

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_315.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_315b.jpg

[casualmerlinconstant]

Quink? I have been using that for 35 years and never experiensed any problems with fading.

oh? Maybe I'm buying from a bad batch then.

[Tanzanite]

Amber: Fortunately I have not written much with these inks yet. I will do some more tests on different kinds of paper and see what happens in another four weeks. If I get this result on more paper I will definitely write to Pelikan.

I would really like lightfastnessrating on ink bottles.

[Tanzanite]

Here is a photo that shows the faded inks. The lines with the pen names have been filled with ink a second time. But that has started fading too. The paler lines were written four weeks ago.

Edited April 14, 2014 by Tanzanite

[amberleadavis]

OH my, I've never had it happen that fast except in direct sunlight. Time to contact them.

[Tanzanite]

In my Leuchtturm notebook they look ok after a few weeks. My test will show where the problem is.

[amberleadavis]

I look forward to seeing the results of your tests.

[Tanzanite]

I will post the results.

[Tanzanite]

This is my first report. I wrote on Moleskine and Leuchtturm with some of my inks. The ones to the left have been in notebooks and the ones to the right on a table not in direct sunlight. P E Ruby has already faded quite a bit on both papers bur worse on Moleskine. Turmaline has also faded and so have Violette Pensee and Tender Purple on M most.

After ONE week! I will stop buying ink...

 

On Moleskine

The second line is Turmaline. Sorry.

 

 

On Leuchtturm

 

Edited April 21, 2014 by Tanzanite

[amberleadavis]

I think you should contact Pelikan, that can't be correct. Something is off with that bottle. I'll go find some of my old writings and see what I can find.

[Tanzanite]

Yes I probably should contact Pelikan. It might be from a bad batch. Other inks fade too but this is extreme.

[stefanv]

I've been using Pelikan Edelstein Sapphire in a Leuchtturm notebook since the beginning of the year, and I've noticed some pretty serious fading:

 

http://www.stefanv.com/pens/fpn_photos/pelikan-edelstein-fading.jpg

 

Both pages were written with the same ink, same pen, same paper, on the dates shown. The photo was taken on the latter date. The sample on the left looked like the one on the right when it was first written.

 

It's really too bad, because I like the colour of the ink when it first goes down on the Leuchtturm paper (I find it too purple on most other papers).

Edited August 19, 2014 by stefanv

[amberleadavis]

WOW

[napalm]

i would try some japanese inks, they tend to make them locally to the best of their knowledge instead of outsourcing globally to the lowest bidder.

[amberleadavis]

i would try some japanese inks, they tend to make them locally to the best of their knowledge instead of outsourcing globally to the lowest bidder.

 

The sailors are faders too. Except for your Apricot... too cool.