Pilot 78G Broad - Relatively Speaking?

[LostArk]

http://i.imgur.com/ZjqThB7.jpg

[Houston]

I find it more stub-like, so not very crisp, compared to other italics I've owned. I'm sure there's a technical answer, based on the actual shape of the way the nib is cut, but performance of the 78G Broad has always seemed to me like an economy-priced stub.

[rdh]

If you are looking at other inexpensive italic pens, I like the old-style Sheaffer Nononense calligraphy pens with medium or broad italic nibs. Definitely a lot crisper that the 78G. If you are looking for very wide lines, you could get one of the Pilot Parallel pens (they come in 4 widths, I believe). They are more of an art pen, but have an impressive wide line that is very crisp.

 

Dave

[WirsPlm]

I'd call it a cursive italic, more italic than than a stub nib or the Pilot Plumix and certainly capable of giving a line variation but not as noticeable as some of the other italic pens.

[KBeezie]

It's mainly sold as "Broad Stub", since it's rounded off a little.

[OcalaFlGuy]

It could be the way the pen is being held but I see little if any line variation in the sample above. That's Not a stub to Me.

 

I consider the Lamy 1.1 CI more Stubish than CI. That has MUCH more line variation that shown above.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

[KBeezie]

It could be the way the pen is being held but I see little if any line variation in the sample above. That's Not a stub to Me.

 

I consider the Lamy 1.1 CI more Stubish than CI. That has MUCH more line variation that shown above.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

I see it, but it's not much. The 78G's Broad is more like a 0.7 (It's by Japanese standards) so closer to a medium.

 

Like look at "Crisp" Top of C thinner than bottom, then thin again. But since it's thicker going across, I suspect he writes with the pen sideways, almost like a leftie. (A rightie would typically have thicker strokes going down than going across).

Edited April 12, 2014 by KBeezie

[LostArk]

 

I see it, but it's not much. The 78G's Broad is more like a 0.7 (It's by Japanese standards) so closer to a medium.

 

Like look at "Crisp" Top of C thinner than bottom, then thin again. But since it's thicker going across, I suspect he writes with the pen sideways, almost like a leftie. (A rightie would typically have thicker strokes going down than going across).

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZGzy8Fr.jpg

 

I really don't like the way the nib behaves "normally." I quite like the thin upstrokes. I suppose to achieve this effect while angling the nib normally I'd need an oblique nib or something?

Edited April 12, 2014 by LostArk

[kidde]

Try the 78g BB. Mine is pretty crisp, to the point of catching the paper. The width is @ 1.5mm, roughly double the B. Sheaffer View-Point calligraphy pens are fairly crisp also, and at $5-$6 each a very inexpensive way to try italic nibs.

There is another nib common to middle east countries, an Arabic/Hebrew italic, that makes thin vertical strokes and wide horizontal ones. Might be worth checking out.

Paul

Edited April 12, 2014 by kidde

[KBeezie]

Try the 78g BB. Mine is pretty crisp, to the point of catching the paper. The width is @ 1.5mm, roughly double the B. Sheaffer View-Point calligraphy pens are fairly crisp also, and at $5-$6 each a very inexpensive way to try italic nibs.

There is another nib common to middle east countries, an Arabic/Hebrew italic, that makes thin vertical strokes and wide horizontal ones. Might be worth checking out.

Paul

 

Haven't' seen a 78G BB anywhere, seen F, M, B, but not BB.

[LostArk]

Likewise, I'd love to have one, but I've never see a BB for sale anywhere (or they are sold out). I believe there is a BB nib for the Pilot Plumix pens that is the same as the 78G BB nib, just marked 1mm (even though it's a 1.5). Only place I could find it for sale is here. Oh well!

[kidde]

Lostark, I was unaware that the Plumix was offered in so many widths! And those crafty Europeans get them for standard cartridges instead of proprietary Pilot ones.

BB seems to be tough to find, after a lengthy search I bought one from speerbob on the forum. I paid more than for any other 78g I have, but I'm not disappointed.

I've bought a few Dollar 717i's with the Arabic italic but they haven't arrived yet. I'll comment on them when they show up.

 

Paul

Edited April 12, 2014 by kidde

[KBeezie]

Likewise, I'd love to have one, but I've never see a BB for sale anywhere (or they are sold out). I believe there is a BB nib for the Pilot Plumix pens that is the same as the 78G BB nib, just marked 1mm (even though it's a 1.5). Only place I could find it for sale is here. Oh well!

 

Probably because the line width it puts down is a 1mm (like my Goulet 1.5mm puts down a line similar to a 1.1 width, but the actual nib material measures out to a 1.5).