Replacement For Unknown Brand

[cooldude666]

Hi there.

I'm looking for replacement parts for a pen, which I'm not sure of the brand.

 

 

This pen was bought for me from a tabac in Beziers, France.

It's a cheap pen, but I took it with me on a holiday in Europe and it worked like a dream.

When I returned, I couldn't find the occasion to write with it, so it fell out of use for a few months.

I picked it up again recently, and found that it is not working like it used to.

The pen will draw ink from the cartridge, and will write for two or three lines, but then will run dry.

If I remove and replace the cartridge, it will then do the same thing again.

I thoroughly cleaned the insides, thinking that was the issue, but the problem remained.

I bought new and different inks, but they all had the same issue.

I then took it to T Sharps, my local pen shop, and they said the insides were clean, and that the problem was with the nib, which seemed damaged.

I do not remember dropping it, but I'm pretty rough with my pens, and the nib does look a bit damaged, so I agree that the nib is the problem.

I was then told that they could not do repairs, as they were not sure of the brand of the pen.

(It has Enzo Varini written on the cap, but that is the only identifier, and a quick google search shows no results of a pen brand of that name.)

They also did not have any replacement parts, as they said these types of pens are generally hand made with random parts from other pens.

 

 

I am quite eager to have this pen fixed, and was wondering if anybody had seen a pen like this, or knew where to get replacement parts.

I would be happy to replace all of it, as long I could still use the case.

 

Thank you for any help you can provide,

Adam

[Beechwood]

Adam

 

The nib looks like it has been crushed rather than bent, perhaps due to the nib pressing on the cap when it was overtightened.

 

Try smooth out the nib by laying it on a smooth steel rod such as a drill bit and then smoothing it out with a round pencil, take your time.

 

After it has been smoothed you can look at setting up the slit, so that it is nice and even.

[hari317]

Almost certainly a Pilot manufactured pen with their inset nib.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/210524-inset-nib-on-the-namiki-silvern-removing-and-re-sealing/

[cooldude666]

Am I on the right track here?

 

[cooldude666]

Okay, so I believe I've encountered another problem.

When I squeeze the ink cartridge, the ink comes out of this hole;

Instead of underneath the nib, which is where it should be coming out of, if I understand correctly.

If I block the bottom hole, and push water through, it will slowly trickle out of the top part, so it's not entirely blocked, but something must be obstructing the flow.

I've given it a few overnight soaks in plain water recently, which obviously haven't helped.

 

hari317,

Thanks for finding that out. All I can seem to find on these pens is that they are worth far more than the amount that was paid for this pen.

[hari317]

if you peer inside the pen from the cartridge end you will see a metallic collar inside with two slots. fabricate/shoehorn a suitable tool and unscrew the collar.

 

Once that is done, you can push the feed in from the front and it will come out from the cartridge end. you can then clean the feed thoroughly and reassemble.

 

No problem about the link, I wrote that post and have now worked on a few more examples of this type of pen. To my knowledge no one else has made such type of nib units like Pilot.

Edited February 7, 2014 by hari317

[hari317]

The Pilot "Judan" made in Korea seems very close in looks to your pen.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-Judan-Red-Lacquer-Swirl-Gold-Fountain-Pen-Medium-Nib-Mint-NOS-/370996517272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56611d9998

[cooldude666]

I've taken out the metallic collar, but I'm not sure what you mean by pushing a feed through the front of the pen?

Do you mean the bottom or top hole?

And what should I be feeding through?

[Wile E Coyote]

The Pilot "Judan" made in Korea seems very close in looks to your pen.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-Judan-Red-Lacquer-Swirl-Gold-Fountain-Pen-Medium-Nib-Mint-NOS-/370996517272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56611d9998

 

I concur with Hari's first post that the pen resembles the Pilot "silvern" series. That is a very unique nib and pen style.

 

I have a Korean "silvern" and the nib is marked Pilot Made in Korea. The nib in the first post looks like it's losing plating which is consistent with the lack of gold content marking. The OPs nib also has a different marking, possibly custom made for a retailer or a Chinese knock off? If it is a knock off, they're getting really good.

 

It is an interesting pen nonetheless and worthy of anyone's "silvern" collection.

[Wile E Coyote]

I've taken out the metallic collar, but I'm not sure what you mean by pushing a feed through the front of the pen?

Do you mean the bottom or top hole?

And what should I be feeding through?

 

The front of the pen refers to the end of the section where the nib is/was attached. Or if you hold the pen with the nib upward, the top.

 

You should be feeding the feed through the section. (That should clarify that)

[hari317]

I've taken out the metallic collar, but I'm not sure what you mean by pushing a feed through the front of the pen?

Do you mean the bottom or top hole?

And what should I be feeding through?

the part that sits underneath the nib and does the job of conducting or feeding ink to the nib is referred to simply as the "feeder" or the "feed".

 

Just push this part into the section, it will fall out from the cartridge end opening.

 

The collar was metallic? A Korean pilot with the inset nib just came in and the collar looks to be plastic on that one.

 

I have some pics of a silvern taken totally apart, the pics were for a thread that i wanted to make but have now lost interest in creating. I will try to dig the pics up, to show you the collar on that one.

 

ETA: here is the pic. the transparent threaded part on the top is the collar that sits inside the section, removal of which facilitates the removal of the feeder.

 

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii197/hari317/PilotEliteInsetNibRepair/IMG_8429.jpg

 

anyway you seem to be on the right track, good going.

Edited February 7, 2014 by hari317

[cooldude666]

Ah, I understand now.

I've taken it apart, and the feed is caked with ink.

I've got it soaking in water now, but do I need to do anything else?

And the collar was plastic, not metallic. Not really familiar with any terms, so I'm doing a lot of guess work.

[PAKMAN]

The caked up feed is probably the problem if soaking with water doesn't work you may need to add 10% ammonia to the water. A soak in a ultrasonic jewelry cleaner would do it wonders.

[hari317]

Ah, I understand now.

 

I've taken it apart, and the feed is caked with ink.

I've got it soaking in water now, but do I need to do anything else?

And the collar was plastic, not metallic. Not really familiar with any terms, so I'm doing a lot of guess work.

 

wonderful, you are doing very good.

 

the caked with ink feed is the problem. it looks serious from here. There is a product called Kohinoor Rapidoeze. I soak the feeds in the rapidoeze solution and then use a toothbrush to clean the feeder fins. alternatively, try soaking the feed in dishwash liquid and then clean using a tooth brush. One time I had to use a fine steel pick to dislodge the crud between the fins gently, you will be able to do it easily having come this far.

 

best

Hari

[cooldude666]

It works!

All it needed was a bit of a soak and a toothbrush scrub, and it's writing perfectly again!

Thank you all so much for the help!

I wasn't sure how well just explaining my problem was going to work, but you're all super helpful, and had all the answers.

Thank you all again!