Mixing Noodlers With Other Brands...?

January 10, 2014

So i was curious which noodlers inks can be mixed with other brands. Just got a bottle of kon-peki (expensive!!!) And wanted to play with the color a bit.

I tried mixing diamine poppy red with noodlers black. Worked well for a day then the next day it write just red... went to my vial i mixed them in and the inks had separated.... :-/

So anyone who knows.... can only non-bulletproof, non-baystate colors be mixed with other brands?!? Is it because of the chemical properties of those inks?!

I have a whole lot of noodlers and it would be sad if i couldbt mix any of them and have them stay mixed. Is precipitate the right word for them separated??

I dont know all the words and abbreviations and acronyms for the inks like BBK for bad belted kingfisher everyone uses...

Someone should have a thread of all the abbreviations for people that dont know....

Hint hint admins and moderators.... :-)

Thabks in advance for tge info!!

January 10, 2014

Hi,

Unfortunately we do not have a nice set of clear-cut rules for mixing/blending inks. There are some very general guidelines, though there are many exceptions to those guidelines.

The ingenious Mr Tardiff has brought us a wide array of inks of diverse properties, so guidelines are at a very high level.

The Baystate series inks are not compatible for combining with other inks.
Members of the bulletproof family have very good probability of being co-mingled amongst themselves; and lower probability of a successful mix with other inks. I advise against mixing [sailor/Platinum] nano particle inks with Noodler's Bulletproof inks.
Noodler's simple aniline dye inks have no particular prohibition as to mixing/blending, so risk of producing an unsuccessful result is the same as with other brands of ink.

It might be the case that as Noodler's simple aniline dye inks are close to neutral pH, they have inherently higher potential to be blended. Also, as they typically have a higher dye-load than non-Noodler's inks, water may be added to the recipe - that requires mixing the [distilled] water with the non-Noodler's ink, which brings that combo closer to a neutral pH, then adding the Noodler's ink. (That technique was used to successfully blend a bulletproof ink with an iron-gall ink.)

R&K Sepia has some constraints on using it in a recipe, which are mentioned on their site : http://www.rohrer-klingner.de/fileadmin/files/pdf/schreibtinte_farbkarte.pdf

Ah, I really must ask if you intend to tinker with kon-peki - I really don't think that ink could be 'improved' by adding other ink. Rather, if you enjoy that colour, and want to emulate it by mixing, I hope you get lucky on that quest.

Bye,

S1

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The way I test for 'safety' of a recipe is mentioned in this Topic: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/234049-noodlers-lexington-gray-galileo-manuscript-brown/?p=2517090

January 10, 2014

There's a whole lot of information in the Inky Recipes subforum, that's a good place to start with your questions: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/forum/126-inky-recipes/

I wouldn't mix a US/EU ink with a Sailor or Pilot ink, though, US/EU inks tend to use acidic bases and Pilot or Sailor inks tend to use alkaline bases and the combination can be ugly.

January 11, 2014

Ok jist reposted new thread in inky recipes....

Dont know how to delete this one... lol

Ahh well maybe ill get more info from having them both.

Tbanks!!!!

January 11, 2014

Why would you want to tinker with Kon-Peki?

Especially by adulterating it with Noodler's?

One of the things I most appreciate about Iroshizuku inks is their near universal functionality. That's something you don't always get with Noodler's. Though, it has been suggested to add Blue Ghost to less water resistant inks.

Only thing I've ever wanted to do with Kon-Peki is to add some Take-Sumi to it to bring it down to a more subdued blue-black more appropriate for a male prosecutor.

Just don't mix Sei-Boku and Kiwa-Guro. The result isn't a darker blue-black. It's some strange black-green.

January 13, 2014

Seeks - I am a proud tinker with Kon Peki - it just isn't tough enough. It is however one of the ingredients in my beloved QIV.

January 13, 2014

Ah, Stoof, sorry I posted a thread with your question and then saw this. Hopefully Sandy will post there too and I hope you get your answers.

January 13, 2014

I liked the vibrancy of Waterman South Sea Blue (which washed from paper) and the waterproofness of Noodler Britannia's Blue Waves (which lacked vibrancy) so I mixed the two. It's been a very happy marriage for all concerned.

January 13, 2014

I liked the vibrancy of Waterman South Sea Blue (which washed from paper) and the waterproofness of Noodler Britannia's Blue Waves (which lacked vibrancy) so I mixed the two. It's been a very happy marriage for all concerned.

Oh my... That sounds Awesome!!!

Now.. where to find Noodler's Britannia ??.. In the UK?

January 13, 2014

Oh my... That sounds Awesome!!!

Now.. where to find Noodler's Britannia ??.. In the UK?

Water will wash out the SSB, but there seems to be no impairment of the waterproof qualities of the BBW, so a dousing will render the writing less vibrant, but hardly at all less legible. The BBW alone had tended to dryness, but this was not the case with added SSB. The 1:1 mix works very well in its dedicated Reform 1745; though the mix has been used in other pens, the Reform has been filled with this exclusively for years now, with no flushing, and has suffered not a jot.

BUT! Prompted by your question, I discovered with alarm that neither Pure Pens nor TWD stock BBW ... nor (looking beyond these shores) can I find it on ebay, nor at Jet Pens ... why didn't I buy more?

January 13, 2014

BUT! Prompted by your question, I discovered with alarm that neither Pure Pens nor TWD stock BBW ... nor (looking beyond these shores) can I find it on ebay, nor at Jet Pens ... why didn't I buy more?

Was it discontinued?? :bawl: :bawl:

January 13, 2014

There was a name change, SSB is now Inspired Blue. It should be the same color, since it's only rebranded.

http://www.inknouveau.com/2012/02/waterman-ink-name-changes.html

January 14, 2014

Was it discontinued?? :bawl: :bawl:

I do hope not ... maybe somebody in contact with Nathan Tardif would be able to tell us.

There was a name change, SSB is now Inspired Blue. It should be the same color, since it's only rebranded.

http://www.inknouveau.com/2012/02/waterman-ink-name-changes.html

Thanks! I knew this had been renamed, but had forgotten its new name.