Pelikan 120 & 140 Nib Collar

[Gerold]

Hello all,

 

This is my first post on FPN and I like to share small small repair work with you.

Pelikan 120 users might know about this problem:

 

 

The nib collar has cracked and will son be gone completely.

When this happens, the pen will start leaking inevitably.

 

So I decided to make myself a replacement and first got all the measurements.

This is the resulting drawing:

 

 

Next I got to turn the things themselves.

The final result you can see in the following pictures:

 

 

Best of all: The things work just fine.

I hope some of you might find this information useful.

If you're unable to use an otherwise fine pen because of this problem:

There is a solution (and help too: just let me know).

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2013 by Gerold

[Kathleen48]

Thanks for the drawings especially. I have a bunch of 120s and 140s. Luckily none of them have had this problem yet but they might and I would hate to not be able to use them.

 

I have recently been rehabilitating my old (small) lathe and I will save the drawing for future use.

[Wile E Coyote]

Very nice work. Thanks for the drawings.

[Joe in Seattle]

Impressive!

[carlos.q]

First of all, welcome to the FPN.

 

I congratulate you not only for your fine work but also for your kind offer to help those in need.

 

That orange collar is simply beautiful!!!

[pen4hobby]

Both collars looks very neat!

Excellent!!!

[WestLothian]

They look great - well done!

I have just the same problem on my Pelikan 100. It is a different collar design but the same principle of clamping the nib and feed. It would be really useful to have a lathe even just for today. Perhaps there could be a business opportunity for someone making these for repairing the older Pelikans from 100, 100N, 400 and 400NN - all are plastic with no metal band.

[5370H55V]

If anyone decides to make something like this I would definitely be interested in purchasing one. My first pelikan (a m120) came a dew days ago snapped in half below the ink viewing window and had a completely cracked nib collar. I managed to glue the body back together without impeding the movement of the piston too much, but the collar was completely beyond repair. Buying a new nib unit would cost as much as the pen itself, so something like this would save me and perhaps others a lot of trouble.

[WestLothian]

I measured the collar for the Pelikan 100 and it is rather different in the features:

 

 

The thread is 0.75mm pitch but it has a major diameter that is more like 6.75mm rather than the full M7 which would be 7.00mm.

[WestLothian]

A couple of corrections to the above drawing:-

1. the M7 thread cut at the smaller diameter should really be written as M6.75x0.75

2. the bore should be 5.2mm to accommodate the thickness of the nib

 

I think that this collar drawing is also suitable for IBIS pens.

[benincanada]

Just wanted to revive this thread - has anyone been able to produce these, and has an extra one I can buy off of them? I need a collar for a 400Nn I just got that has the typical cracked plastic collar. Thx!

[whych]

Have a look at this:

http://www.custompenparts.co.uk/pelikan/94-pelikan-compatible-connector.html

[benincanada]

Have a look at this:

http://www.custompenparts.co.uk/pelikan/94-pelikan-compatible-connector.html

Thanks, I've ordered this !

[Scribblesoften]

Will this collar work on the M&K 120 or just the Pelikan produced? Thanks.

[whych]

The M&K is a different, smaller nib and collar.

Ebay shop pen shop of memphis has some complete nibs.

[Scribblesoften]

Thanks. I have a good collar with a bad nib. I plan to liberate a modern steel nib from its home and place it in the M&K collar with the feed. I was curious about these collars in the event that mine breaks.

[bobijam]

Thank you for the drawing, I asked my friend to make a collor for me using your measurement, he used aluminum and it fits perfectly.

 

[TimeoDanaos]

Thank you for the drawing, I asked my friend to make a collor for me using your measurement, he used aluminum and it fits perfectly.

 

140 nib collar.png

That looks really great. I don't know how the aluminum will react to acidic inks, so be sure to update us in a while on how it holds up.

[bobijam]

That looks really great. I don't know how the aluminum will react to acidic inks, so be sure to update us in a while on how it holds up.

As the newer mX00 series have metal rings in their nib collars, I think current inks would not be so corrosive as they use to be, so I wouldn't be worried about it, but sure, I'll update the status with a relatively long time use.

[carlos.q]

That looks very nice. However, if you remove the nib unit frequently, wouldn't the collar's metal threads wear down the section's celluloid inner threads?