Learning Italic

[dms525]

yeah I guess... time to probably get a 1.1 :X or probably print writing isnt just for me... >.<

 

Hi, Algester.

 

If you really want to learn to write italic script, you can. Your cursive sample shows a number of features that would need to change, but I don't think any of them are particularly difficult to change. Having used a cursive script like the one you showed us should be no impediment.

 

If you are interested, here is what you need:

1. One or more pens with italic nibs. As ongnon has advised you, a broader nib - at least 1.5mm - will make learning much, much easier.

2. An ink that isn't either too wet or too dry for your pens. (It doesn't have to be anything fancy.)

3. Reasonably good fountain pen friendly paper.

4. A lesson book that starts from the beginning and guides your learning progressively and in an organized fashion. It should start with some basic principles, for example, holding your pen so the broad width of the nib is at 45º to the writing line. Books by Getty and Dubay, Eager, or Reynolds are all good.

5. Again, I would endorse the recommendations to use guide sheets to help you learn letter proportions and slant.

 

Flourishes should come later, after you have learned the basic letter forms very well.

 

Desire to learn and persistence in practicing with "critical attention" are necessary.

 

Remember: You can do it, if you want to! (But you must want to.)

 

Happy writing!

 

David

[Algester]

I'll see what I can do about the manuals since... I'm not really known for having a credit budget or a country carrying calligraphy manuals... but will see

http://i.imgur.com/k3f5lgfl.jpg

 

using ken's posted letter forming guide I got to this... I think the Os say that I'm a lefty if I got one right it was because I was experimenting... I got too used having the paper on the vertical position that turning it around eludes my perception... <_< ohh yeah I had a lamy 1.5 nib with me attached to a logo

Edited August 18, 2014 by Algester

[SimaShi]

Are you looking for practice sheets like this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/442x669q90/661/Wk50HD.jpg

[Algester]

to me anything can do... really but right now at least you guys can see what happens when a lefty attempts print italic :X

I'll post more training rounds tomorrow and see how I'm going to do about that

Screw that I'm still working on a compromise

http://i.imgur.com/Agg2MBYl.jpg

 

I can't say how I'm liking the progress but neither probably is my pen safe... as I'm like really pushing the nib to imitate the right hand style of line variation

Edited August 18, 2014 by Algester

[SimaShi]

You are doing much better than me at least, I can't even write a downstroke :s

[ongnon]

Right now

[Algester]

You are doing much better than me at least, I can't even write a downstroke :s

while I find things a bit harder... being a lefty in a right world still has some work to do...

[KaB]

some exercices. 'b' causing me more trouble than I expected...

 

[dms525]

some exercices. 'b' causing me more trouble than I expected...

 

 

There are some good b's there. You just need consistent goodness. Keep in mind that the shape of the body of a's, b's, d's, p's and q's is the same, differing only in orientation. Focus on the shape of the counters rather than the outline of the letter. Look at where the ink isn't. Can you do that? Once you get the "swing" of the body outline needed to surround that white space, you've got it.

 

David

[KaB]

 

There are some good b's there. You just need consistent goodness. Keep in mind that the shape of the body of a's, b's, d's, p's and q's is the same, differing only in orientation. Focus on the shape of the counters rather than the outline of the letter. Look at where the ink isn't. Can you do that? Once you get the "swing" of the body outline needed to surround that white space, you've got it.

 

David

 

No wonder the d gave me exactly the same trouble;

 

 

 

thx for the tip, I need this kind of new approach. It's all in Reynolds of course. But he says so many things in so little lines...

[Algester]

thinking about it now I think I may need to have my italics modified if I'm going to pursue italic fonts as well... having a chisel tip isnt... what I can say lefty friendly of course people said that I can always rotate the paper but I jut never seems to get the "natural" feel to it

[ongnon]

I find this document:Handwriting Repair. I hope it may help

[sangrisano]

From the same website you can download the 'Operina' written by Ludovico Arrighi in the sixteenth century, I used that to start learning 'Cancelleresca' (Italic).

http://66.147.242.192/~operinan/8/2/208.html

[vermillion]

[ongnon]

Great :thumbup:

[ongnon]

You surprised me

:thumbup: keep going

[caliken]

 

The Osmiroid 65 was, and still is, a great pen. Look after it, and it will last you for life. For a long time in the 1950s it was my only fountain pen.

 

Ken

[dragos.mocanu]

I find this document:Handwriting Repair. I hope it may help

 

Fantastic document, thanks a lot!

[KaB]

 

Hi Vermillion, I already wondered whether you were practicing some very complicated something. A week of rest didn't do much harm to your skill it seems.

[dms525]

The Osmiroid 65 was, and still is, a great pen. Look after it, and it will last you for life. For a long time in the 1950s it was my only fountain pen.

 

Ken

+1

 

And the nibs also fit the Esterbrook J series pens.

 

David

Edited August 20, 2014 by dms525