Tiny Pens

[Anne-Sophie]

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I really love ringtops, I will add my voice to Srawler's as to the identity of yours.

 

I find vintage ones, too precious to wear but I'll be delighted to get a contemporary ones to do just that.

[grayautumnday]

On 9/15/2013 at 3:47 PM, DanDeM said:

Here's a Peter Pan ED that I actually inked and used. Fun, full flex nib.

2¼ inches capped, it's shown with a pretzel for reference.

 

 

I have another one in the same size and material, but lever fill. Needs

a #10 sac and as far as I can tell, they're not made anymore.

 

The gold Dingle-dangle slips over your belt and the pen hangs from the chain

into your trouser pocket.

Are there official names for the various styles of Peter Pans? What does "ED" stand for?
 

I've been collecting mini pens, especially Peter Pans, for restoration. BTW, I can't remember for sure whether it's one or both, but David Nishimura of vintagepens.com and AndersonPens.com carry #10 sacs. Though I've found that the thicker vest pens can be resac'd with #13 sacs, if I  do a thin wipe of shellac on the sac nipple and inside the mouth of the sac, let them dry for 5-10 min, then do a slightly thicker coat on each, mate them, then hold the sac so it doesn't slide and pop off. Not sure about the longevity of adhesion as latex tends to stretch out some with use.

 

So far, it seems like the thicker, faceted body, non-ringtops, having wide brass filigree cap bands (one article states that these cap bands were a style copied from popular Wahl-Eversharp pocket pens of the time) are sometimes referred to as the Peter Pan "vest pens," the ones that are super skinny and short (just like yours above, except for the addition of hand painted and glued-on flower or gem embellishments) that were sold in the larger red leather-covered (and gilt-embellished) "Peter Pan Deluxe" piano-hinge cases with matching ribbon necklace that had a matching celluloid slide... one article calls them "Flower-Tops."

 

 The base models for said flower-tops were like yours, above, and were also sold with ribbon necklaces having gold-tone buckle slides. 
 

I'm not sure it's always the case, but the vest pens seem to have been sold in greeting-card-like boxes, tied to the bottom of the box next to a gift greeting. It's these vest pens that seem most often to have been customized with "Souvenir of ___" or names of hotels or bars where they were brought with bar tabs or meal checks. 

[grayautumnday]

On 9/15/2013 at 6:52 PM, jar said:

CS Dinkies...

 

 

http://www.fototime.com/7720A65DE92CF1D/large.jpg

 

a couple Waterman 562½V ringtops ...

 

http://www.fototime.com/67978177D7F4B5F/large.jpg

 

Yard-o-Led Pocket Viceroy Victorian ...

 

http://www.fototime.com/A208A139EE48EAA/standard.jpg

 

 

Any chance you're willing to update your dinky pen links? Very curious here! Hoping to interest RBinder in compiling another ebook someday, (or maybe I will just make a dinky pen blog article series) so I'm compiling links to every reference I can find (to reach out for photo use permission and high-res versions).

[AAAndrew]

On 12/25/2024 at 7:58 PM, grayautumnday said:

Are there official names for the various styles of Peter Pans? What does "ED" stand for?
 

I've been collecting mini pens, especially Peter Pans, for restoration. BTW, I can't remember for sure whether it's one or both, but David Nishimura of vintagepens.com and AndersonPens.com carry #10 sacs. Though I've found that the thicker vest pens can be resac'd with #13 sacs, if I  do a thin wipe of shellac on the sac nipple and inside the mouth of the sac, let them dry for 5-10 min, then do a slightly thicker coat on each, mate them, then hold the sac so it doesn't slide and pop off. Not sure about the longevity of adhesion as latex tends to stretch out some with use.

 

So far, it seems like the thicker, faceted body, non-ringtops, having wide brass filigree cap bands (one article states that these cap bands were a style copied from popular Wahl-Eversharp pocket pens of the time) are sometimes referred to as the Peter Pan "vest pens," the ones that are super skinny and short (just like yours above, except for the addition of hand painted and glued-on flower or gem embellishments) that were sold in the larger red leather-covered (and gilt-embellished) "Peter Pan Deluxe" piano-hinge cases with matching ribbon necklace that had a matching celluloid slide... one article calls them "Flower-Tops."

 

 The base models for said flower-tops were like yours, above, and were also sold with ribbon necklaces having gold-tone buckle slides. 
 

I'm not sure it's always the case, but the vest pens seem to have been sold in greeting-card-like boxes, tied to the bottom of the box next to a gift greeting. It's these vest pens that seem most often to have been customized with "Souvenir of ___" or names of hotels or bars where they were brought with bar tabs or meal checks. 

 

Very cool! I know so little of these tiny pens. Would love to see more pictures, especially of the souvenir pens. I am a bit of a sucker for souvenir pens of any kind, though I'm most partial to souvenir dip pens. 

[Penguincollector]

Here’s my collection of ring tops and tiny pens. I didn’t include the Japanese pocket pens, but I do have several. 
 

 

L to R: Sailor Chalana flighter, Wahl lapis, Parker 66 pre Duofold BHR, Parker “True Blue” vest, Parker Duofold Lady jade, Sheaffer 3-25 radite, Paper Mate/Sanrio Hello Kitty, MontBlanc 114 Solitaire,  Waterman’s 52 1/2V red ripple, Conklin Endura lapis, Pelikan M300,  Sailor Mini Pro Gear Slim, Todco BCHR, Salz Peter Pan blue marble, Arnold jade, unknown jade, unknown brown, Favorite Treasure brown, Wancher PuChiCo Penguin Black, Salz gold filigree

  

[inkstainedruth]

Not sure how I missed this thread before now.

I have a couple of the gold-filled filigree Morrison ringtops like what DanDeM showed about a decade ago (but not a set like that -- just the FPs) and also a sterling filigree overlay Morrison ringtop; plus one that has a engraved sterling overlay (sort of a hexagonal body, IIRC); and apparently also one that's just BHR.

Besides those, I have a Peter Pan Deluxe mini-ringtop; a pen that MIGHT be a Welsharp; a "Treasure" pen (which might be a Wearever sub-brand); an unknown brand mauve Vulcanite ringtop; a "Good Service" mini-ringtop (might have been made for Sears & Roebuck), a yellow celluloid (?) Arnold mini-pen, a chased BHR Waterman Ideal 52-1/2 ringtop; a Craig BHR ringtop with a music nib; and the recently acquired "Shirley Temple" pen (which might also have been made by a Wearever sub-brand).

Some of the pens I haven't gotten repaired yet, but the first gold-filled filigree overlay Morrison I picked up at my first pen show, and has a LOVELY semi-flex stub nib on it (but that pen no longer leaves the house because it has a bad habit of unscrewing itself from the cap when I've got it on the lanyard ).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth