Modern M600 Nib On M200 Body?

[Schoenberg]

I am considering buying a modern M600 14K nib for my M200 body.

 

I know it is not recommended but is there any known case of failure?

[Azura]

I am pretty sure you can do it with no problem!!!

[risingsun]

Check out the nib interchangeability chart here:

http://www.richardspens.com/?pens=pel

 

It appears it will not work that way, but a m200 nib will work in a m600 pen.

Edited September 4, 2013 by risingsun

[AndrewC]

IIRC, unless you refit the nib and feed in the collar the nib will bang into the cap when screwed down. Here is support for my vague hazy memory.

 

Here is a quote from nibs.com- "Pelikan M600 two-tone 14C nib unit. When set deeply enough it will fit the M400 and M200 series pens as well." It's the "when set deeply enough..." part that makes me wonder. IIRC, you have to lower the nib in the collar to do this.

 

Here is a link to Richard Binder's site- http://www.richardspens.com/ Click on Pelikan and scroll to the bottom of the page where he has a chart that says what nibs fit what pens. It looks like the M600 nibs will bang into the cap when screwed down.

[andreamcantu]

You should have no problem doing this I did it with my M200.

[Schoenberg]

Check out the nib interchangeability chart here:

http://www.richardspens.com/?pens=pel

 

It appears it will not work that way, but a m200 nib will work in a m600 pen.

 

This chart does nothing. I want actual experience for this particular combination.

[Schoenberg]

IIRC, unless you refit the nib and feed in the collar the nib will bang into the cap when screwed down. Here is support for my vague hazy memory.

 

Here is a quote from nibs.com- "Pelikan M600 two-tone 14C nib unit. When set deeply enough it will fit the M400 and M200 series pens as well." It's the "when set deeply enough..." part that makes me wonder. IIRC, you have to lower the nib in the collar to do this.

 

Here is a link to Richard Binder's site- http://www.richardspens.com/ Click on Pelikan and scroll to the bottom of the page where he has a chart that says what nibs fit what pens. It looks like the M600 nibs will bang into the cap when screwed down.

 

Is there instructions to lower the nib?

Edited September 4, 2013 by Schoenberg

[Schoenberg]

You should have no problem doing this I did it with my M200.

Thanks.

 

I am pretty sure you can do it with no problem!!!

Thanks.

[Pennata Penna]

On top of my head.. The magic number was 22 21 mm from the collar to the tip: Anything longer will hit the captop of an M200/400. Search for the instructions; You'll need a knockout block. And if it's only very little off, you might getaway only with pushing the nib and feed deeper into the collar without removal.

 

PS: before anything measure and note these lengths:

1. Collar to tip of the nib

2. Tip of the feed to the tip of the nib

3. Section lip to tip. *optional

 

The M600 nib that I can use on my M200/400/M400/old style M600/M700 has:

1. 20.75 mm

2. 3.75 mm

 

Tony

Edited September 4, 2013 by Pennata Penna

[hari317]

A M400 nib is a straight fit into a M200. why do you want to go for a M600 nib? Is it cheaper for some strange reason or some other thing?

[Pennata Penna]

OP, see my edited post above. Let us know how yo go and Good luck.

 

A M400 nib is a straight fit into a M200. why do you want to go for a M600 nib? Is it cheaper for some strange reason or some other thing?

Yes mate, price and availability. In my case, it was cheaper for me to reset an existing nib than buy another 18C + regrind. But I second your suggestion to get M400 nib instead of mucking around.

 

TR

Edited September 4, 2013 by Pennata Penna

[Schoenberg]

A M400 nib is a straight fit into a M200. why do you want to go for a M600 nib? Is it cheaper for some strange reason or some other thing?

I knew. but M600 nib is better than M400. It is reported that M600 nib has more flex and spring.

[hari317]

I knew. but M600 nib is better than M400. It is reported that M600 nib has more flex and spring.

ok, whatever floats your boat.

 

but I am surprised at this information, I have examples from the entire souveran range, So my data point is that I don't find any difference between the nibs of a modern M600 Vs M400.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Best

Hari

[Ernst Bitterman]

I knew. but M600 nib is better than M400. It is reported that M600 nib has more flex and spring.

 

If that's the case, the M400 must be a firm pen indeed. My M600 is almost without spring.

[Pterodactylus]

Independent from the question that it fit or not.

 

I prefer the M200 Steel nib by far over the M600 Gold nib.

The M200 Steel nib is somehow springy, the current M600 Gold nib is a real nail, no hint of spring.

And the word flex is the last word I would associate with the current M600 nib.

 

The first monotone M600 nibs seems to have some nice springiness but not the current nail.

[jar]

I find the modern 600 and 400 nibs have the same softness and neither is flexy.

[MarkTrain]

I knew. but M600 nib is better than M400. It is reported that M600 nib has more flex and spring.

The M600 nib is basically just a "stretch" M400. It has the same feed and collar as the M400 and as such the nib has the same width as the M400. The only real difference is the length of the nib. As such the M600 has no more flex or spring than the M400. In fact, the first new-style M600 nibs produced in the late 90's were even stiffer than the corresponding M400's. With more recent production the M400 and M600 are of roughly equal flex or stiffness.

 

Mark

Edited September 4, 2013 by MarkTrain

[AndrewC]

I knew. but M600 nib is better than M400. It is reported that M600 nib has more flex and spring.

I know that older 14ct nibs have more spring-that is what I had modified for more flex. The stock nib that came on the pen was not any springier than my recent M400 nibs-in fact I found it to be a bit of a nail. I actually find that my steel M200 nibs flex a lot more than my M400s.

Edited September 4, 2013 by AndrewC

[pajaro]

If I have spent for a few M400 nibs for M200s, do you expect me to admit that I was a fool to buy them? Much less the M600 broad nib that writes CI upside down and adorns my gray marble M200?

 

I don't care for flex in any form anyway. The M200 nibs are not flexy steel nibs. You might think they are a bit flexy, but see how much line variation you can coax out of them. Not everything is meant to be like the good old flexible nibs. Looking for flex in everything is bound to be a bit disappointing. Get the older Pel nibs. That's what you want. That's the ticket.

[Albinoni]

You should have no problem doing this I did it with my M200.

 

And did you have any problems closing the cap