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Platinum 3776 Century Black with a Soft-Fine nib

Is the Platinum soft-fine a 'real' flex nib? I seek to answer that question...

 

I can trace my purchase of this pen to a seed planted by Leigh Reyes and her enthusiasm for the Platinum SF. She named it one of her 2012 pens of the year, and then posted this writing sample, which really impressed me (of course, she has good handwriting...).

 

There are no shortage of reviews of Platinum pens. There's even a great review of this exact pen by APHK. Not only that, but I think APHK's review is spot-on and really well done (in fact the pens were even purchased from the same ebay seller, kendo-karate).

 

The information I'm trying to add here is how this nib fairs against a variety of 'flex' pens. I'm also going to add my own photographs (since APHK's review doesn't have macro shots... and macro is how I roll). Therefore, this is a review with my perspective of this Platinum followed by a comparison between this pen and a bunch of other pens.

 

I will be comparing the Platinum Soft-Fine nib to these pens:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/intro-1.jpg

From left to right: Stipula Duetto Lemoncello, Parker Victory, Noodler's Ahab, Waterman 52, Pendleton Brown bad boy with angel wings, Pilot/Namiki Falcon, Eversharp Symphony 713, Pyralin, Non-stop, Ambassador.

 

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/intro-2.jpg

 

For these tests, I used a Rhodia #18 pad and Iroshizuku Syo-ro.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/intro-3.jpg

 

I used these supplies because I think they are fairly mainstream and well behaved. The ink also does a good job of showing how thick it is on the paper with both sheen and shading. Plus it's one of my favorite inks (at the moment).

 

I've decided to break this up in to multiple posts to function as a table of contents.

 

 

Review: Platinum 3776 Century SF

Stipula Duetto Lemoncello

Parker Victory

Noodler's Ahab

Waterman 52

TWSBI 540 with a Pendleton Brown bad boy with angel wings

Pilot/Namiki Falcon

Eversharp Symphony 713

Pyralin ball flex

Non-stop extra fine

Ambassador extra fine

Conclusion

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Main review for Platinum 3776 SF:


  • Fit & Finish: 7/10 It's not up to the standards of the Sailor pens I've reviewed recently (here, here and here). This part of the review is about nit-picking, and nit-pick I shall. The seams don't match on either the top of the cap or the barrel end. The cap has a mechanism that seems like it's supposed to function the same way Sailor's does, but somehow it feels cheap and like I can't quite tell if it's screwed down all the way. I mean, it's not like there's anything shocking, but these are the things that keep it from being a ten. On the upside, the way the barrel screws down on to the nib section is very secure and feels well machined. There aren't anything on the level of mold marks or sharp edges or anything like that. The 'gold' is even and without blemish.
  • Style: 6/10 In between the manufacturing quality and style there is the issue of the quality of the plastic. I can't say I think this plastic isn't finished well, nor do I see signs it will break easily or anything like that. However, there is something about the plastic that feels cheap. I remember saying something similar in my review of the Parker Victory. I think APHK does a good job of summarizing this in his review too. It just feels cheap. I also think the gold-plating... which is already a sore spot with me, is especially cheap looking on this pen. It's just so thin and hardly manages to even look 'gold-like'. As with Sailor, I don't like the big cap band. On the up side, it has a classic shape, and I actually think it's a nice weight. I like holding it and it certainly is mostly non-offensive. I like the way the nib looks a lot, and it's really large and shaped differently. The nib is the high point of the pen, in almost every sense, including design.
  • C/C / Design / Filling: 7/10 Better than average C/C... why? Because the actual Platinum C/C is quite nice. I like it. It really feels secure and looks nice. Oh, and my normal disclaimer (I should just make a thread I can reference here) about how I like C/Cs for some things but pistons feel more luxurious etc etc... you can see one of my other reviews for details.
  • Nib: 7/10 I'm having a harder time than usual evaluating this nib. It did not blow me away. It does not have that glassy feel of a Pilot or a Sailor or even the smooth feel of my Omas Cruze. I wouldn't go so far as to say it feels scratchy, but it's kinda on the edge of feeling scratchy. One definite positive is the flow, which is really good. The feed keeps up, and one remarkable thing, in comparison to the other pens, is that it doesn't railroad or skip. It's also not super-wet (it could be wetter, really) but it certainly keeps up. It's right on the edge of being a flexible nib, but really, I'm sorry to say, it's not a flex nib. Like other modern "flex" pens, it takes a lot more pressure to get the full range of flex out of it, but of course, it also doesn't spring easily. The line starts out quite fine, like .3mm and flexes to about .9mm.
  • Price: 6/10 Retail is $168, and I paid $87. I certainly think there are better pens to be had for the retail price, although I don't think it's a rip-off either. Even for the price I paid, I'd probably choose a Pilot first. However, I do feel like I got a good deal.

GLAMAH SHOTS (we bring out your best... then we take your picture):

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-01.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-02.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-06.jpg

 

The nib is quite pretty, and very large:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-03.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-05.jpg

The feed really keeps up:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-04.jpg

 

Compared to a Pilot Limited Edition Custom Heritage 91 (read Custom 74 with flat ends), my Sailor 1911 Pro Emperor and my Omas Milord Cruise:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-07.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-08.jpg

 

Writing samples... for what it's worth... this is on Clairfontaine:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-09.jpg

 

And the Rhodia for the test:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-10.jpg

 

Close-ups for comparison:

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-11.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/platinum_3776_SF-12.jpg

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Stipula Duetto Lemoncello (I already reviewed this here).

 

This is one of the three wettest nibs -- it might be the wettest nib in that it puts down the most ink. Only the Waterman 52 and the Falcon come close. The Ti nib has weird dynamics, and this specimen is a bold. It flexes from about .6mm to 1.3mm. It's about the same level of flex as the SF under review.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/stipula-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/stipula-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/stipula-3.jpghttp://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/stipula-4.jpg

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Parker Victory (I reviewed this here although the one I chose for these pictures is my black one):

 

To most people's surprise, this pen holds its own. It goes from about .5mm to 1.1mm with pressure that is closer to 'vintage' than modern. It will railroad when pushed. It's on the edge of being a "flex" pen but is easier to get flex out of than modern.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/victory-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/victory-2.jpg

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/victory-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/victory-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/victory-5.jpg

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Noodler's Ahab

 

Probably the most difficult of all the pens. You have to move pretty slowly, but you can achieve more flex with it than some others (about .6mm to 1.4mm). Of course with the scratchy skipping and railroading, it's hard to endorse.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/ahab-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/ahab-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/ahab-5.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/ahab-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/ahab-4.jpg

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1900's Waterman 52

 

I guess I'll save the 'big shocker' until the conclusion... but.. well, nothing can compete... about .2mm to 1.4mm...

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/waterman-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/waterman-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/waterman-3.jpghttp://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/waterman-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/waterman-5.jpg

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TWSBI 540 with Pendleton Brown "Bad Boy With Angel Wings" modification.

 

You can get more flex out of this nib than you can from most modern flex pens, but it's fragile and it also takes a disconcerting amount of pressure. About .4mm to 1.2mm.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/twsbi-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/twsbi-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/twsbi-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/twsbi-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/twsbi-5.jpg

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Pilot / Namiki Falcon

 

Meh. Stil don't "get it". I think part of the problem is that this one is the bold... and it's not modified (doctored) by a nibmeister. Basically, it's just not a flex pen really. It's wet and it has to be primed a lot. About .6mm to .8mm.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/falcon-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/falcon-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/falcon-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/falcon-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/falcon-5.jpg

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Eversharp Symphony 713 medium

 

Uhg, stay away from this stinker. Scratchy. Takes as much pressure as the Ahab, and railroads a lot. Seems like the feed just isn't up to the task. Tiny and light in the hand. Not a contender. .4mm to 1.2mm

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/eversharp-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/eversharp-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/eversharp-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/eversharp-4.jpghttp://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/eversharp-5.jpg

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Pyralin (not the material but the ... brand) ball flex.

 

I don't know much about this pen. I call it 'big orange'. It happens to be the smoothest flex pen I've ever used. It's very unusual . Seems like the easiest of the pens to use. Goes from about .5mm to 1.3mm.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/pyralin-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/pyralin-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/pyralin-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/pyralin-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/pyralin-5.jpg

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Non-Stop brand extra fine flex

 

Another pen I know nothing about. It has the threads in a weird place. It's a hard nib to use... scratchy. .2mm to 1mm about.

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/nonstop-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/nonstop-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/nonstop-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/nonstop-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/nonstop-5.jpg

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Ambassador extra fine

 

I don't know much about this brand either. This pen feels somewhat scratchy, though less than the Non-Stop. The yield in terms of flex is quite good though. It's pretty wet and doesn't take a lot of pressure. .4mm - 1.3mm

 

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/amb-1.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/amb-2.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/amb-3.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/amb-4.jpg

http://suramar.org/fpn/flex_platinum/amb-5.jpg

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Conclusion

 

Wow

 

I. Am. Exhausted.

 

It's definitely hard going from flex pen to flex pen. They behave differently, and to really get the maximum use out of each, you have to sink in to their personality. Plus, I'm not very good at it. However, the reverse of that is: I came to each pen with them each being pretty new. I haven't been doing much flex writing lately.

 

It's interesting, first of all, to have such a hands-down winner. The Waterman 52 plays on a different field. It almost doesn't belong in this comparison. I know that's not a shock to most, but, I didn't come in expecting it to be so decisive.

 

Runners up are the Ambassador and the Pyralin.

 

But, but... that's not what this is about, is it. This is about the Platinum Soft-Fine nib and how it compares to vintage flex. Short answer: it really doesn't. There are things it does better, and the feed is impressive, but basically, Pyralin, Non-Stop, Ambassador, Waterman, and probably the Parker, beat it (the Parker because it yields its flex more easily if nothing else).

 

A more complicated question is, how does the Platinum SF stack up against modern "flex nibs". Quite well actually. Everysharp and Noodler's are out because the Platinum beats them by miles with its friendly feed. Stipula Ti and Falcon... well, both of mine are broad, so perhaps I should reserve judgement, but, with these: they are fun because they are such wet pens, but they aren't flex pens. The Platinum SF is better at flex than these two pens. Finally, my modified TWSBI. The Platinum beats it because it's less finicky.

 

My conclusion is that the Platinum SF nib is the best modern flex pen in this comparison. That's not to say it's the best modern pen...

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Brilliant review already!

Thank you very much!

 

I have benn looking for a nice fine-nibbed Japanese pen for some time. This review gave me more to think of :D

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I enjoyed reading this/these review/s very much. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

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Excellent work - I think I need a 3776 Century

"One Ink-drop on a solitary thought hath moved the minds of millions" - P R Spencer

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  On 7/18/2013 at 8:44 PM, Voormas said:

Brilliant review already!

Thank you very much!

 

I have benn looking for a nice fine-nibbed Japanese pen for some time. This review gave me more to think of :D

Thank you! Yeah, as I'm sure you noticed, it took a long time to assemble, with the multiple posts and all. I'm not sure the multiple posts were the best way to structure it now, actually.

 

Well, think about Sailor and Pilot too. You give up a little flex maybe, but you get a smoother pen.

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  On 7/19/2013 at 9:29 AM, fphilipp said:

Wow, thanks a lot.

  On 7/19/2013 at 11:30 AM, Scribblesoften said:

I enjoyed reading this/these review/s very much. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

 

Thanks for reading it! I'm glad it was useful.

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  On 7/19/2013 at 12:08 PM, picautomaton said:

Excellent work - I think I need a 3776 Century

Thanks!

 

Well, from my perspective right now, it seems to be a pretty good purchase if you're looking for a modern 'almost-flex' pen. I need to try a fine or extra-fine Falcon, but in my current frame of reference, I think it's the best all-around.

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      I'm not expecting any replies to my question about the singing Pelikan nib. It seems, from reading the background, that I am not alone. It's a nice pen. It's such a pity Pelikan can't make decent nibs. I have occasionally met users who tell me how wonderful their Pelikan nib is. I've spent enough money to know that not everyone has this experience. I've worked on nibs occasionally over forty years with great success. This one has me beaten. I won't be buying any more Pelikan pens. 👎
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 4:27
      I've had a Pelikan M805 for a couple of years now and cannot get the nib to write without singing. I've worked on dozens of nibs with great success. Ny suggestion about what's going wrong? 😑
    • Bhakt 12 Oct 5:45
      Any feedback in 100th anniversary Mont Blanc green pens?
    • Glens pens 8 Oct 15:08
      @jordierocks94 i happen to have platinum preppy that has wrote like (bleep) since i bought it my second pen....is that something you would wish to practice on?
    • jordierocks94 4 Oct 6:26
      Hello all - New here. My Art studies have spilled me into the ft pen world where I am happily submerged and floating! I'm looking to repair some cheap pens that are starving for ink yet filled, and eventually get new nibs; and development of repair skills (an even longer learning curve than my art studies - lol). Every hobby needs a hobby, eh ...
    • The_Beginner 18 Sept 23:35
      horse notebooks if you search the title should still appear though it wont show you in your proflie
    • Jayme Brener 16 Sept 22:21
      Hi, guys. I wonder if somebody knows who manufactured the Coro fountain pens.
    • TheHorseNotebooks 16 Sept 13:11
      Hello, it's been ages for me since I was here last time. I had a post (http://www.fountainpennetwork...-notebooks/?view=getnewpost) but I see that it is no longer accessible. Is there anyway to retrieve that one?
    • Refujio Rodriguez 16 Sept 5:39
      I have a match stick simplomatic with a weidlich nib. Does anyone know anything about this pen?
    • The_Beginner 15 Sept 16:11
      dusty yes, glen welcome
    • Glens pens 11 Sept 1:22
      Hello, Im new to FPN I'm so happy to find other foutain penattics. collecting almost one year ,thought I would say hello to everyone.
    • DustyBin 8 Sept 14:34
      I haven't been here for ages... do I take it that private sales are no longer allowed? Also used to be a great place to sell and buy some great pens
    • Sailor Kenshin 1 Sept 12:37
      Lol…
    • JungleJim 1 Sept 1:55
      Perhaps it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times to get that person to appear, though with @Sailor Kenshin you only have to say it twice?
    • Sailor Kenshin 31 Aug 21:06
      ?
    • Duffy 29 Aug 19:31
      @Sailor Kenshin @Sailor Kenshin
    • Seney724 26 Aug 22:07
    • Diablo 26 Aug 22:05
      Thank you so much, Seney724. I really appreciate your help!
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:43
      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
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