Invitation To Show Off Your Stuff...

[Signum1]

Here's my contribution to the thread.

 

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8214/fpnbletter.jpg

[MusinkMan]

Sigmun1 Just "Threw Down"

 

Cool!

[MusinkMan]

 

 

Yukkkkk. This is Terrible.

Edited March 9, 2013 by MusinkMan

[MusinkMan]

 

Messin' around with a pointed pen again. Sorry, Sigmun1.

[thang1thang2]

One small thing that I would think that would improve your composition. Have the flourish for the 'B' be reversed somehow (maybe?). But you should draw the horizontal squigglies on the right backwards, so that your flex is on the other side. That way it'll look "mirrored".

[MusinkMan]

One small thing that I would think that would improve your composition. Have the flourish for the 'B' be reversed somehow (maybe?). But you should draw the horizontal squigglies on the right backwards, so that your flex is on the other side. That way it'll look "mirrored".

 

Yes! You are right. If it were'nt so late at night, I'd take out my stuff and give it a try right this minute. This was just doodle-work that I was doing with a Brause 66ef...kind of "brainstorming" flourishes and crazy stuff. I spontaneously wrote this in much smaller letters (which looked a lot better)...since I liked it I tried to duplicate it in larger letters. It didn't look nearly as good. The long lines are too labored, not smooth. I was afraid to cross through a wet ink line because we all know what usually happens when we do that. So I tried to stop shy of the lines my flourishes crossed, and "pick up" on the other side. That wasn't too successful because I'm just not good enough to make it look smooth and seamless. I tried to re-touch the long thin flourish under the word "Lion", and you see what an ugly mess that became. But if I don't post anything unless it's perfect...I'll never post anything. :-) So bear with me, and keep the critiques coming. They don't discourage me, they help me to learn and to visualize what I did wrong.

[Stompie]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/Popsjill/pens/DSCN1277_zpsd064df91.jpg

[caliken]

Here are some of my favourite pianists written out in Uncial Script.

 

Ken

 

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd289/caliken_2007/pianists700.jpg

[cindycoo]

 

 

I like you background!! so beautiful!!

 

Awww, thank you! I kind of "borrowed" the idea from some youtube videos that Leigh Reines has, but I'm not in her league of course. She used ink to "paint" into her water. I used food coloring because I had more colors. Just experimentation and trying to find a way to incorporate some pretty colors. Thanks for the comments, cindycoo!

 

may i ask you for the URL of the videos? could you find some now? i am very interested in them!

[MusinkMan]

Here are some of my favourite pianists written out in Uncial Script.

 

Ken

 

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd289/caliken_2007/pianists700.jpg

 

Wooooooo Hooooooooooooo! Wowwwza. Having always been fascinated with ancient Medieval and Celtic manuscripts, I have always loved uncial. It just boggles my mind how you do everything with such perfection and precision. You never mess up! hahaha It's just not natural to be that flawless, Ken. It's not normal to be that perfect. Humans are fallible! Your work is more the work of Angels than of mortal men! It just ain't natural, I tell ya. :roflmho:

 

Seriously, how in the world... Well, I guess that's why you are Caliken the great. No one can touch you in this art! I always so look forward to seeing anything that you post up on here. Makes my day to see anything by Ken Fraser. I'm serious about that! Thank you, sir!

[thang1thang2]

 

Yes! You are right. If it were'nt so late at night, I'd take out my stuff and give it a try right this minute. This was just doodle-work that I was doing with a Brause 66ef...kind of "brainstorming" flourishes and crazy stuff. I spontaneously wrote this in much smaller letters (which looked a lot better)...since I liked it I tried to duplicate it in larger letters. It didn't look nearly as good. The long lines are too labored, not smooth. I was afraid to cross through a wet ink line because we all know what usually happens when we do that. So I tried to stop shy of the lines my flourishes crossed, and "pick up" on the other side. That wasn't too successful because I'm just not good enough to make it look smooth and seamless. I tried to re-touch the long thin flourish under the word "Lion", and you see what an ugly mess that became. But if I don't post anything unless it's perfect...I'll never post anything. :-) So bear with me, and keep the critiques coming. They don't discourage me, they help me to learn and to visualize what I did wrong.

 

If you're crossing through a wet ink line and having it smear all over the place, it may be because you're using too much pressure? I've seen people able to cross through very thick pools of ink just fine because they were using pressure so light. Just a thought. I didn't have too much trouble with mine after I got my pressure less and less. Are you using full arm movement when you make your flourishes? That might help too

 

Here are some of my favourite pianists written out in Uncial Script.

 

Ken

 

I love it! The letters are so even, which I really like. Even the 'i' looks even and fine in place with the 'w's and other wider letters. I also love how your justification is almost perfect. In order for it to have been perfect, you would have to have sacrificed some of your wonderful line spacing and you didn't do that. But it still somehow ended up to be so similar, which strikes me as awesome because it means you played with the words themselves, choosing which word to use and where to achieve that affect.

 

Tell me, Ken, am I correct in the assumption that you had to play around with the words to achieve that justification? Or did you just put them all down randomly?

[caliken]

Tell me, Ken, am I correct in the assumption that you had to play around with the words to achieve that justification? Or did you just put them all down randomly?

 

What I was trying to do here, was to achieve an attractive effect, overall.

 

In an attempt to make it as even as possible, I left no inter-word spaces and broke words each time I reached the end of a line which automatically produced near-justification.

 

In normal lettering, I never aim for total justification, as this involves varying the width of the letters or the inter-letter or inter-word spacing. I dislike these distortions which never look good IMHO and I'd far rather have centred lines or left side justification, only.

 

Ken

Edited March 9, 2013 by caliken

[dms525]

Please note: I make no pretense of aesthetic merit. This is "handwriting," not "calligraphy."

 

 

David

Edited March 10, 2013 by dms525

[thang1thang2]

In an attempt to make it as even as possible, I left no inter-word spaces and broke words each time I reached the end of a line which automatically produced near-justification.

 

In normal lettering, I never aim for total justification, as this involves varying the width of the letters or the inter-letter or inter-word spacing. I dislike these distortions which never look good IMHO and I'd far rather have centred lines or left side justification, only.

 

Ken

 

So you would just br

eak words off when

ever it would make

the justification look

rather nice?

 

And, I've never really seen total justification look good unless the handwriting is so inconsistent already (like mine) that the intentional variation of spacing doesn't damage the overall work and the good justification makes it look better. But for typing, I feel like total justification can look nice (especially in LaTeX). However, that's with computer algorithms and imperfect fonts already, so yeah.

 

I do agree that calligraphy looks best with centered/side justification. How do you do your center justification? Every time I try to do it, I end up with really bad left justification...

[MusinkMan]

Please note: I make no pretense of aesthetic merit. This is "handwriting," not "calligraphy."

 

 

David

 

 

Dang David! There is plenty of aesthetic merit there, whether you claim it or not! I thought it looked fantastic, man! Really really good! Do another if you have time. That was quite impressive!

 

What pen did you use on this? Really nice!

Edited March 10, 2013 by MusinkMan

[MusinkMan]

One of the things that I would LOVE to see is someone posting a "regular handwriting" sample in the style of those old business letters or just regular "correspondence" from yesteryear. Those folks had a "flair" in their regular handwriting that I don't see anymore. It was small cursive writing, like really small. Close packed and heavily slanted.

 

I'm going to try my hand at it and post the results, but they will surely be putrid. LOL! But I'll get some feedback and advice from people who know. And on THIS thread, everyone's effors are appreciated so don't be afraid to post up anything you've done!

 

Heck, I figure that even the masters who lurk around here had to start somewhere. So, they know our struggles. And they will help!

 

Now, on with the show....who's next?????

[MusinkMan]

Well, looks like I'm next. Again. LOL. Once again, trying to achieve a handwriting "look" from older days. So, this is more "written" than formed with many pen lifts. However, old habits are hard to break and I found myself automatically forming letters with multiple strokes at times. At any rate, this was "faster" to write...I tried to increase the slant more than I normally do (however, I don't think it's slanted nearly enough for the look I was going for). Also, this is smaller writing than I usually practice with a fountain or dip pen. I just can't "put my finger" on what made "old writing" look like "old writing".

 

So...advice, critiques, etc. are definitely all welcome. As long as they are in the spirit of helping and advising, they certainly will not make me angry nor hurt my feelings. I know I need help.

 

Sorry for the crummy photo quality...used my cellphone to photograph it. And dreadful spelling of the word character. Geeeez.

 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2013 by MusinkMan

[MusinkMan]

[ZachWasniak]

I'm jealous of your handwriting..

[palansil]

dmd525: I like your handwriting. How fast do you write it? I find I can do italic calligraphy but when I try to use it as handwriting, it doesn't come out nearly as good as yours.

 

 

 

MusinkMan: Nice flex writing! My guess is that like anything else, it will just take practice to achieve the "antique-y" look you are going for. However, the writing in your post is something that I think few can achieve today.

 

 

 

Here is something I did for a FPN contest a while ago. (If you are interested, here is the original thread.) The text is Psalm 45 which was chosen since it has to do with pens and writing. Since I used an uncial script, I decided to write it in Latin. It was written with a Lamy Joy with a 1.5mm nib.

 

 

 

http://home.comcast.net/~palansil/008.jpg

Edited March 10, 2013 by palansil