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Yep, I followed that link and instructions when I got my holders, but thanks anyway!

 

I am alternating between 3 inks: Higgins, Walkers and Walnut.

 

It is the tines that are out of sync with each other so I have been fiddling a bit to get them straight - working better now!

 

I got some more nibs on the way as well so perhaps they will be in better condition. These were bought while I was out mooching around town yesterday from a staitonary shop and it would seem that they take no care in how they store the nibs!!!!

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Eric Clapton said that. :-)

 

I know what you mean, but you'll have to take that one up with the current master of Spencerian, Michael Sull. LOL!!!

 

I was loosely copying the word "Spencerian" from his work. I do know what you mean though...the lowercase letters were very much thick and thin. I can't do all those finelines that those guys do so perfectly.....yet... :thumbup:

 

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:roflmho: no, not Eric. It was an old jazz guitarist, Joe somebody or other. As a side issue I don't think Eric is all that good anyway really.

 

:roflmho: I see where the problem lies - Mrs Sull had something to do with the book and she insisted he 'pretty it up' a bit :ltcapd:

 

I sent you an email with samples from beginners like Blosser, Zanerian, you know, the days they were starting out with this stuff :roflmho:

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Eric Clapton said that. :-)

 

I know what you mean, but you'll have to take that one up with the current master of Spencerian, Michael Sull. LOL!!!

 

I was loosely copying the word "Spencerian" from his work. I do know what you mean though...the lowercase letters were very much thick and thin. I can't do all those finelines that those guys do so perfectly.....yet... :thumbup:

 

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While Michael Sull is a very kind man and great advocate for and teacher of Spencerian, I don't know if his own works are always the best exemplars to copy (or to calibrate the eye). (His study materials and method books, however, are uniformly excellent.) For exemplars, I would point you instead at his wonderful collection of Spencerian writing from the golden age of American penmanship "Spencerian Script and Ornamental Penmanship: Early American Handwriting." Volume 1 is out of print, but Volume 2 is readily available and worth the price.

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Musinkman, I just been trying out some more nibs.

 

The Gillotts 1068, firm with some flex but it needs a little work to flex. Maybe give it a try? I'll try post a picture tomorrow.

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:roflmho: no, not Eric. It was an old jazz guitarist, Joe somebody or other. As a side issue I don't think Eric is all that good anyway really.

 

:roflmho: I see where the problem lies - Mrs Sull had something to do with the book and she insisted he 'pretty it up' a bit :ltcapd:

 

I sent you an email with samples from beginners like Blosser, Zanerian, you know, the days they were starting out with this stuff :roflmho:

 

Eric said it too. And I agree he isn't all that as a player...he was back in his day, but he's nothing as compared to John Petucci, Steve Vai, Chris Broderick, Rusty Cooley, etc. Still, he said that...I read it myself. I think he had it paraphrased a bit.

 

I knew what you meant about the copperplate thick and thins, and I knew somebody would mention it. But that's how he did it, and I was messin' around with his look. I wish that it WAS like that...much easier to do it that way. LOL! Those thin lines are killin' me.

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Here's an enlargement of my new signature, written in the Roundhand (Copperplate) style of Willington Clark (The Universal Penman).

 

Ken

 

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It was an old jazz guitarist, Joe somebody or other. As a side issue I don't think Eric is all that good anyway really.

 

Joe Pass?

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While Michael Sull is a very kind man and great advocate for and teacher of Spencerian, I don't know if his own works are always the best exemplars to copy (or to calibrate the eye). (His study materials and method books, however, are uniformly excellent.) For exemplars, I would point you instead at his wonderful collection of Spencerian writing from the golden age of American penmanship "Spencerian Script and Ornamental Penmanship: Early American Handwriting." Volume 1 is out of print, but Volume 2 is readily available and worth the price.

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Ohhhhh that is sooooo fine, Ken. How I aspire to be able to do that one day. I'm glad that you are embracing this title and honor. You are tops in my book. Thanks for showing us this...good gried, it's good. Beyond good. Understated Elegance, but sooooo fantastically good. It just screams "Classy".

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Joe Pass?

 

 

Yes yes yes!!!! Ken, you're a star! It was Joe Pass, thank you!

 

Nice signature by the way!

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Try practicing these capitals much larger - at least twice size. You'll find that, at a large size you're compelled to use muscular movement, with the hand still. Try it with a rollerball or felt tip first of all, to get the feeling of it. Enjoy the sensation. It seems contrary, but it's much easier to make smooth curves at a larger size - and it's easier to see faults.

 

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I know who Joe Pass is. You are a jazz guitar afficianado, Ken? :vbg:

And King Crimson too, right?

I'm a huge Yes fan, back from the days of Bruford and Howe...do you like them as well?

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Suggestion:

 

Try practicing these capitals much larger - at least twice size. You'll find that, at a large size you're compelled to use muscular movement, with the hand still. Try it with a rollerball or felt tip first of all, to get the feeling of it. Enjoy the sensation. It seems contrary, but it's much easier to make smooth curves at a larger size - and it's easier to see faults.

 

Ken

 

Suggestion noted for sure. I will try it. Is that why my thin lines are all chattered-up and vibrate-y? I've been told that before...that if I would encorporate more arm movement, I could eliminate that horribly embarrasing problem.

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Yes yes yes!!!! Ken, you're a star! It was Joe Pass, thank you!

 

Well off topic - but I can't resist it!

 

In another life, I was actively involved in jazz (piano) and had the good fortune to play with many American musicians on tour - Johnny Griffin, Sonny Stitt, Buddy de Franco, Red Holloway, Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis etc.

 

Great days!

 

Ken

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Suggestion:

 

Try practicing these capitals much larger - at least twice size. You'll find that, at a large size you're compelled to use muscular movement, with the hand still. Try it with a rollerball or felt tip first of all, to get the feeling of it. Enjoy the sensation. It seems contrary, but it's much easier to make smooth curves at a larger size - and it's easier to see faults.

 

Ken

 

Suggestion noted for sure. I will try it. Is that why my thin lines are all chattered-up and vibrate-y? I've been told that before...that if I would encorporate more arm movement, I could eliminate that horribly embarrasing problem.

It's much easier, written larger. Writing on a blackboard is naturally with whole arm, and it's a similar experience. With a felt tipped marker, try writing these letters large covering sheets of old newspaper. Do it fairly quickly and smoothly with a certain amount of abandon. It's great fun and good loosening up practice. It also helps to develop the sense of relaxation and freedom.

 

Ken

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I'm going to try it this very evening! Lord knows I have plenty of paper and plenty of ink! It's "ability" that is in short supply over here. hahaha.

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Ohhhhh that is sooooo fine, Ken. How I aspire to be able to do that one day. I'm glad that you are embracing this title and honor. You are tops in my book. Thanks for showing us this...good gried, it's good. Beyond good. Understated Elegance, but sooooo fantastically good. It just screams "Classy".

Thank you, MusinkMan.

 

With regard to my signature and avatar title, I have received a couple of adverse PMs by e-mail, which have given me pause for thought and I have decided to remove these details from this forum.

 

With the knowledge of the support that I've received here, I'll continue to use the title in my business dealings.

 

Ken

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