Stub O' The Day

[da vinci]

Here's a little writing sample:

 

http://i.imgur.com/2x6QqZV.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/8sVzVT7.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/tid9UzV.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/NPie70z.jpg

Thanks

 

Looks great

[dcpritch]

 

jar, I can't tell what pen that is, though the width, orange barrel and cap band detail make me think of a Delta piston filler. Gorgeous.

 

Pelikan “Café Crème” with a 14k two-tone M400 nib, EF nib reground into an approx. .33 stub.

 

http://i.imgur.com/lx8yAKc.jpg

 

Digging it so far.

 

 

I can see why you like it so much. What a lovely combination of colors on a classic pen. And the nib! John Mottishaw is certainly one of the best.

 

BB stub

 

That Platinum BB stub is great. I think they are a very close cousin to the nibs used by Nakaya, if not the same but for the nib imprint, and all the ones I've used have been wonderful writers. Thanks for posting.

[jar]

 

jar, I can't tell what pen that is, though the width, orange barrel and cap band detail make me think of a Delta piston filler. Gorgeous.

 

 

Delta Dolcevita Oversize.

[dcpritch]

I showed this pen a couple of years ago but am using it just now to address some wedding invitations and thought I'd put up new pics:

 

Delta 500 special edition for FountainPen.it Forum, Fusion stub nib

 

 

J. Herbin's Stormy Grey ink is fantastic, the gold flecks make it perfect for special occasion use. Here's a not-so-great pic of the ink:

 

[sexauerw]

It's been quite a while since I've posted on this thread and I have several new or newly reground pens to show.

 

This pen came to me with a generic Bock nib. I found and purchased a proper Classic Pens stub nib, but it didn't have the line variation that I wanted. Richard Binder corrected that at the 2014 DC Supershow.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331480.0/800/p/Classic_Pens_Legend_Series_Black_Resin_Prototype_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

I'm not quite sure why I bought this one, it's not the kind of thing I usually collect. But, it was cheap and it turns out that the stub nib is extremely smooth and was so straight out of the box.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331481.0/800/p/Conklin_Herringbone_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

This one has been through an evolution. I bought this from Gary Ellison only a week or two before Conway Stewart went belly up. It came with an Italic Fine nib, which had almost no line variation. I was able to get a nib swap for it from the Onoto folks at the 2014 DC Supershow and came away with an Italic Broad nib. Still not much line variation. So I sent it off to Pendleton Brown and I think you can see the results. I'm really happy with it now.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331482.0/800/p/Conway_Stewart_100_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

This was an FPN Group Buy pen. The photo can't possibly capture the wonderful depth of the acrylic material; it's simply beautiful. And the stub nib is very smooth.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331483.0/800/p/Edison_Glenmont_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

This is another pen that I bought from Gary Ellison. I wanted a Broad Italic but there were none to be had at the time. So Gary found a BB nib and I had Richard make a Broad Italic from it at the DC Supershow. Wow, he does good work!

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331484.0/800/p/Pelikan_M1000_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

This is a pen that I've had for years, it had a fine nib. Pendemonium recently had italic nibs available so I bought one. I'm glad I did.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331486.0/800/p/Sheaffer_Valor_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

OK, this last one is off-topic. But it has such wonderful line variation that I couldn't help but show it along with the rest of the group. It's a brand new pen, not vintage. And the line variation is mostly due to John Mottishaw's custom modifications. This is NOT a pen for everyday writing, it's too delicate and it does tend to snag anything but the best papers. But it is great on the proper paper and when you take the time to write slowly.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331485.0/800/p/Pilot_Custom_912_with_short_writing_sample.jpg

 

A last look at the first six nibs.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/jMjNQ3UU2gj2Mc/10331487.0/800/p/Six_stub_nibs_star.jpg

[BMG]

@dcpritch & @billLS -- beautiful pens! I must say I'm impressed and encouraged to explore non-round nibs a bit further. And on the subject...

 

Could someone explain the practical differences between, say, a stub and an oblique nib. I know that the nibs are ground differently, that the O nibs are intended to be held at an angle to the writing surface, etc., but in terms of the lines they write: how do they differ? Any comparative writing samples?

[dneal]

@dcpritch & @billLS -- beautiful pens! I must say I'm impressed and encouraged to explore non-round nibs a bit further. And on the subject...

 

Could someone explain the practical differences between, say, a stub and an oblique nib. I know that the nibs are ground differently, that the O nibs are intended to be held at an angle to the writing surface, etc., but in terms of the lines they write: how do they differ? Any comparative writing samples?

 

Obliques are for holding the pen at a left or right angle. They may or may not have line variation.

 

See this nibs.com link

 

http://www.nibs.com/Fountain-Pen-Nib-Customizations.htm

[BMG]

@dneal

 

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware that O nibs need to be held at an angle, and the page you link to indicates that they do show line variation, hence my question.

 

If the only difference between the two is that a pen with an O nib must be held at an angle, I personally don't see any practical difference between them, though I feel there must be, otherwise why would we have them?

[jar]

@dneal

 

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware that O nibs need to be held at an angle, and the page you link to indicates that they do show line variation, hence my question.

 

If the only difference between the two is that a pen with an O nib must be held at an angle, I personally don't see any practical difference between them, though I feel there must be, otherwise why would we have them?

 

Not everyone holds their pen at the same angle or rotation.

[BMG]

@jar

 

So it’s not the nature of the line (which for all intents and purposes are the same) but rather the way one holds a pen...?

 

That makes sense.

[dneal]

@dneal

 

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware that O nibs need to be held at an angle, and the page you link to indicates that they do show line variation, hence my question.

 

If the only difference between the two is that a pen with an O nib must be held at an angle, I personally don't see any practical difference between them, though I feel there must be, otherwise why would we have them?

 

The page I linked to refers to their custom ground obliques, which have some variation. I linked it so you could see the difference. Here's a different page that notes "ball-tipped" obliques and provides an illustration.

 

Some think that oblique automatically means italic-like line variation (and perhaps the nibs.com page is a source of that confusion). It doesn't.

 

The only obliques I own are vintage German pens with factory grinds. They're mainly OF's and OM's, and none have line variation from the shape of the nib.

[BMG]

Thanks for the additional note. So, again, the idea is to have a nib that writes well for those folks who hold their pen at an angle, is that right?

[jar]

Thanks for the additional note. So, again, the idea is to have a nib that writes well for those folks who hold their pen at an angle, is that right?

 

It is for folk who rotate the pen and oblique nibs come in a variety of degrees of rotation and also as both left foot (most common) and right foot.

[BMG]

Thanks jar and dneal for the explanations / clarifications.

 

I have been a "round nib" user all my fountain pen life who is only just now, at my advanced age (aHEM!), exploring other nib styles. I have a couple cursive italics and, as documented above, one stub. Had been thinking of getting an oblique nib just to try it out, but wasn't sure how it would be different from the stub. Now I know.

 

[sidthecat]

I've been looking for a proper stub to put into one of my Waterman ringtops. It's astonishingly difficult, which is essentially pouring gasoline on an obsession.

[dcpritch]

There are a number of great places to look for nibs. When I am looking for a particular nib the first place I usually check is FiveStarPens.com, owned by Robt & Rita Lott. Often a search of their website and sometimes a phone call to them can solve your problem, or at a minimum get you going in the right direction. Good luck!

 

Here are some vintage Waterman's stubs to put a match to your gasoline keep your interest piqued while you look:

 

Waterman's DeLuxe Ink-Vue, Blue keyhole nib

 

Waterman's 12, 4B nib (factory - really!)

 

Waterman's 24, New York BB nib (looks like the tines need adjusting)

 

Waterman's 42, BB stub by Minuskin

 

Waterman's 45 Safety, BB stub nib

 

Waterman's 351V, Canada No. 2A nib

 

Waterman's Ink-Vue Model 5116, Canada stub nib

 

Waterman's piston filler (made for Swiss market), flexible stub nib

[da vinci]

Some wonderful nibs there DC

 

The breadth of your collection never ceases to amaze me!

[thedeacon]

I have to admit, i haven't read every post in detail. If I am repeating another post I apologize. I LOVE stub nibs. The OP has some amazing examples. The only consideration I would add is the Italix Churchman's Prescriptor. It's a lovely pen to write with, especially with the stub nib.

 

@dcpritch, keep up the good work. Great examples of a stub!

[jmccarty3]

dcpritch, thanks for another beautiful post. Your nibs, inks, paper, handwriting, and photography could not be better, and we appreciate your sharing them with us.

[dcpritch]

Some wonderful nibs there DC

The breadth of your collection never ceases to amaze me!

Thanks, I'm glad to contribute here, and yet compared to quite a few I am a piker, a babe lost in the woods. BillS, for example, continues to show the most amazing Sheaffer collection you could hope to see, and just wait til jar gets going with his Montegrappas and Yard o' Led beauties. (Just to name a couple)