Cursive Lowercase "r"

[N2theBreach]

I'm more amused that I'm actually interested in this discussion.

 

If you told me a couple of years ago that a discussion on how to write the lower case "r" could last for more than 2 minutes, and that I would follow it to the end, I'd probably have replied with something that included the phrase, "I'd have to be really bored!" I suppose fountain pens really can open up new worlds (or change the threshold for boredom! :-).

 

For what it's worth, I voted #2.

[Dimitry V.]

http://s3.postimage.org/u8kwbrq1f/image.jpg

 

As you can see, I use #2. I only use #2. The second line shows why I stopped using #1 (it often looks like v's) and I truly hate when letters are not attached together and using #1 makes keeping your r's linked to the next letter a real pain in the a.

 

  On 1/7/2013 at 1:21 PM, Mike 59 said:

Hi All, For what it's worth, I notice how my 'r' can become much like a 'v', this photo is more printing than cursive but I do notice it in my own, and other people's writing too.

 

This happens to me too and therefore I have taught myself to only use #2 r's.

 

  On 1/7/2013 at 12:15 AM, gawain3 said:

  On 1/6/2013 at 7:42 PM, glinn said:

It's probably just me but I love that Gawain3 used 'wire' as an example of a cursive 'r' when the letter form looks exactly like how I form a cursive 'n' thus the word reads 'wine'.

 

Gary

 

Nah, not even close. :hmm1:

 

Wow, so true! I've actually never seen someone write their r's like that. They do look a lot like n's...

 

 

 

Kind regrds,

Dimitry

[gawain3]

I guess it must be a question of my age (61), but I'm surprised that so many FPNers have never seen the lower case r I was instructed to use so many years ago. Attached is a copy of the alphabet I was taught. I don't remember using all the loops. Maybe a more economical method of school writing? Some of the capitals were a bit different, although that seems the first place we go when we are trying to personalize our writing.

[Gcouch]

#2 is the only way I've ever wrote an "r" in everyday writing. Calligraphy is a different story; many different ways to write it

[neuro23]

  On 2/11/2013 at 1:34 PM, gawain3 said:

I guess it must be a question of my age (61), but I'm surprised that so many FPNers have never seen the lower case r I was instructed to use so many years ago. Attached is a copy of the alphabet I was taught. I don't remember using all the loops. Maybe a more economical method of school writing? Some of the capitals were a bit different, although that seems the first place we go when we are trying to personalize our writing.

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjQyWDgwMA==/$(KGrHqJ,!hoFETEUPmQsBRGiGl8OSQ~~48_20.JPG

 

I'll admit, I don't recall seeing a lower case r like that. Below is a copy of the characters I use when writing:

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTY1WDc1MA==/$(KGrHqJ,!pIFDSDeQVsmBRGh3LlYgw~~48_20.JPG

 

I write every day at work and when I write a word in which an "o" directly precedes an "r" (e.g. "ornate"), it's barely legible. I much prefer the one you posted.

 

Cheers,

 

Aiden

[neuro23]

  On 1/6/2013 at 2:18 PM, Mr Ink said:

I was reading somewhere on the Internet that a more recent fashion, in many parts of the USA as well as France and a few other European countries, is to capitalize the letter (i.e. as R) throughout the text. I was rather surprised by this and was wondering why such a change would have developed.

 

InteResting link from 2008... I still haven't found the reason why; however, after trying it myself, substituting a small "R" in cursive seems easy and legible.

[Mr Ink]

  On 2/12/2013 at 11:44 AM, neuro23 said:

  On 1/6/2013 at 2:18 PM, Mr Ink said:

I was reading somewhere on the Internet that a more recent fashion, in many parts of the USA as well as France and a few other European countries, is to capitalize the letter (i.e. as R) throughout the text. I was rather surprised by this and was wondering why such a change would have developed.

 

InteResting link from 2008... I still haven't found the reason why; however, after trying it myself, substituting a small "R" in cursive seems easy and legible.

 

VeRy inteResting link....thank you.

[RLTodd]

I have always had trouble reading the Palmer "r." I always have to slow down and sort it out in context from the Palmer "v."

 

I greatly prefer the Zaner-Blosser "r" and "v." Perhaps, it was one of the reasons for the development of the Z-B script, or not.

[lovemy51]

  On 1/6/2013 at 7:42 PM, glinn said:

It's probably just me but I love that Gawain3 used 'wire' as an example of a cursive 'r' when the letter form looks exactly like how I form a cursive 'n' thus the word reads 'wine'.

 

Gary

it's not just you...

[lovemy51]

  On 1/28/2013 at 7:11 AM, raigne said:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/raigne/2013-01-28020041sized_zps7e63a2bc.jpg

The only thing consistent about my r's is that they're lower case and have ligatures on both sides.

funny, i got the same issues with my lower case "r". :embarrassed_smile:

[adamselene]

When I went to Med School, after a five year hiatus from school, and almost all writing, I "invented" a small "R" incorporated into my cursive, reasoning that it was differentiated from "n" (and "u, i, m, e" which tend to all look the same when I get going. Now, I even have a problem with "el" and "e"!

 

 

and the "t's" I forget to cross, Fagetabodit!

[madzaxmax]

Both 1 and 2. It fluctuates.

[MaddyMarcel]

  On 1/6/2013 at 8:57 AM, Mr Ink said:

As a matter of curiosity, how do you write your cursive lowercase (minuscule) letter "r"?

 

Multiple answers are possible because I am aware that some individuals use more than one form of the letter "r", depending on its position in a given word.

 

http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/torpiano/LowercaseR_zpsdbe32581.jpg

 

Sometimes the first, and sometimes the second way. Depends on the joining letters.

[steb]

I started life with a rather crummy version of Kens #3 above, then somehow caught the use of an upcase but diminutive R inside words from a coworker (we read each others notes extensively in the job) from Ireland and it has proven remarkably difficult to revert to a more elegant approach.

[MaddyMarcel]

  On 3/13/2013 at 12:41 AM, steb said:

I started life with a rather crummy version of Kens #3 above, then somehow caught the use of an upcase but diminutive R inside words from a coworker (we read each others notes extensively in the job) from Ireland and it has proven remarkably difficult to revert to a more elegant approach.

 

I don't know, Steb, sounds to me like that could be quite elegant. Give us a sample!!

[Belles-lettres]

  On 1/12/2013 at 2:08 PM, mberman14 said:

When in school I was taught that consistency is essential in handwriting, but as I have gotten older, I have found myself drifting into changing letter forms, often within a single sentence. I not only do this with r, but also with s, b, d, e, k, l, p, q, t, v, and w. I don't really give it much thought in the moment, but sometimes one or the other letterform just feels right. It doesn't seem to impact the legibility. It may be because my writing is a sort of hybrid of palmer, italic, and spencerian influences, learned at different times in my life.

 

Anyway, this is a vote for inconsistency.

 

+1 on that!

[SheilaM]

[gauge_boson]

I joined up with FPN this morning to talk about ink and here I am (several hours later) talking about lower case 'r'... this is addictive

 

Anyhow... I vote for '2'. When I was taught to write, I used version '1', but after some years found that my writing did not flow nicely and I came to dread words with 'r' in. There is a bit of OCD in my family and I had it in my head that I must not lift off the paper mid-word or it was a 'fail' and trying to do a type '1' 'r' was a nightmare. Then, one day, quite out of the blue, I tried the type '2' and it immediately took over. In fact, I cannot remember writing a type '1' 'r' even accidentally since, it was just so much easier to flow with type '2'.

 

Kind regards

[brownargus]

I was taught no.2 type and have used it ever since. I first started with cursive or "real writing" at school in about 1946. This seems to be just after the style taught was changed from type 3 or 5 which I have always considered, rightly or wrongly, to be an old fashioned style, to type 2 or similar. My mother and grandmother both wrote this older style and were quite surprised at the way I was taught to write this letter.

[Alexandra]

  On 1/6/2013 at 6:45 PM, jbb said:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8220/8354912678_245e8f1178_b.jpg

 

That's beautiful!