Can A Man Use Yama Budo?

[dorothynotgale]

No. I have it on good authority that, like the Bic For Her, Yama-Budo will automatically refuse to write for anyone possessing a Man Card; some sort of compatibility issue. They're trying to fix that bug.

[amberleadavis]

Oh, if it gives you PMS, then you should avoid it. I agree with Scrawler, if you are in doubt, please send your supply to us.

[elysee]

You CAN and SHOULD use ANY colors that you please. Limiting the colors that you use because of the weaknesses, prejudices, and immaturity of others limits and reduces the joy of using pen and ink. Colors do not have gender alignment or gender assignment. God has not limited colors by gender in any of His creatures, and many male creatures enjoy a wide variety of colors such as the peacock; for most species of birds, the male is more colorful than the female. So, go forth and enjoy ALL the colors of the world!

Edited June 13, 2013 by elysee

[GabrielleDuVent]

As long as your underwear is either boxers or a union suit (but never briefs), and as long as you never eat quiche, you are a real man.

 

 

Fine. No quiche for you!

 

Anyway, checking the reviews on amazon.co.jp yielded reviews that describes the colour as "Bordeaux". It also stated that there are chemicals used to pigment the ink that would increase estrogen and progestogen production. Use with caution.

[RJJ]

This is one of the best threads I've read. What a creative group.

[betsypreston]

In all of my pens Yama Budo looked maroon/burgundy. I traded it (to a man) for his black leather Midori. He thinks it looks like a dark magenta. I WISH - I'da kept it if it looked like that to me.

[de_pen_dent]

Yama Budo is definitely pink. I have no problems with pink - have an extensive collection of pink shirts and T-shirts I wear. But I dont like this color.

 

Every time I've tried it, no matter what I set out to do, I've found myself writing fanmail to Justin Bieber and using the word "like", like, so often, along with "lolz". That's like, so totally unnecessary, you know, lolz.

 

Edited to add: If someone is willing to pay for postage from India (should be <$10, I reckon), I'd be happy to send them the bottle. I've taken out about 1-1.5 convertor's worth of ink from it.

Edited June 14, 2013 by de_pen_dent

[Elizabeth in NJ]

Pink seems to be all the rage for mens shirts and ties these days, even amongst fairly conservative folks. Lavender too. I was at a couple of meetings in the last couple of days, and about half the men in attendance were wearing pink or lavender. These aren't girlymen either, not by a long shot. I noticed because this thread got resurrected.

 

Amongst the combinations:

Lavender shirt with lavender striped tie.

Light pink shirt with pale green tie. (Sounds awful, but it looked really sharp)

White shirt with bright orange and magenta stripes (I couldn't decide if I wanted to tackle him and steal it or go to Dunkin' Donuts.)

White shirt with hot pink tie.

White shirt with lavender check pattern, no tie.

 

Everybody but me was using blue or black ink. Well, I guess 54th Mass is blue-black. But I'm female, so it's okay.

[de_pen_dent]

^^^ You lost me at lavender. That, like teal, isnt a real color!

[sargetalon]

I see nothing pink or feminine about Yama-Budo. To me it is a dark purple/maroon type color. Has looked great coming out of a Parker 25B. I have no shame writing in this color.

[de_pen_dent]

Whatever it is, I find it to be what is technically known as an "icky" color, IMO. Another color that I find "icky" is graphite. Go figure.

Edited June 14, 2013 by de_pen_dent

[kronos77]

You CAN and SHOULD use ANY colors that you please. Limiting the colors that you use because of the weaknesses, prejudices, and immaturity of others limits and reduces the joy of using pen and ink. Colors do not have gender alignment or gender assignment. God has not limited colors by gender in any of His creatures, and many male creatures enjoy a wide variety of colors such as the peacock; for most species of birds, the male is more colorful than the female. So, go forth and enjoy ALL the colors of the world!

Thanks Elysee, but let us not lose touch with reality. While I can and have used real pinkish colors for certain applications, in general it would be looked upon as odd for a man to choose such colors for an everyday ink. This may be only custom, but remember, custom and tradition are really all we have to make sense of the world. I think David Hume showed this a few hundred years back and he has never been convincingly refuted on that point to my knowledge. While someone may decide to throw such restrictions to the wind, such choices shouldn't be taken lightly as they have consequences.

 

By "gender" I assume you mean SEX. Gender is a term used in linguistics. Sex refers to the male and female types.

[Elizabeth in NJ]

By "gender" I assume you mean SEX. Gender is a term used in linguistics. Sex refers to the male and female types.

 

That is incorrect. In the English language, "sex" is biological, and "gender" is a cultural construct that governs expectations and behavior of the people of each sex.*

 

"Gender" is also used as a linguistic term, but if you're comparing sex to gender, that definition is barely relevant.

 

 

*Except in the case of transsexual people, but that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Elizabeth in NJ

[dorothynotgale]

 

That is incorrect. In the English language, "sex" is biological, and "gender" is a cultural construct that governs expectations and behavior of the people of each sex.*

 

"Gender" is also used as a linguistic term, but if you're comparing sex to gender, that definition is barely relevant.

 

 

*Except in the case of transsexual people, but that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.

Hear, hear! *Golf clap* You said that much better than I could have.

[Ghost Plane]

 

Too old - I was barely under the age limit when they took the first female pilots, but also too short, too near-sighted, and too allergic. My husband was a military pilot, but now he can't pass the physical any more. I almost replied to your Hello Kitty post with my certainty that he would have taken the dare when he was young.

 

It will have to be left to my petite 6-year old granddaughter, who wants to be either a fighter pilot, an airline pilot, or an astronaut, depending on what day it is - if she can grow enough to make the height limit. She already knows more about aircraft operations, engineering, and instrumentation than any of the boys.

 

But she likes pink and will be getting a pink Lamy Nexx from me in a couple of months. I leave it up to her parents to decide when she can switch from washable blue to pink ink. It should go nicely with her little pink fighter pilot jacket from the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum's gift shop. We had to get her the limited edition military pilot Barbie to get her to stop wearing pink high heels with it - even Barbie is not allowed to wear pink high heels with a flight suit, she comes with standard combat boots.

 

Wandering from the topic again, I guess. Sorry.

I'm looking forward to the day the silly height requirements go away on BOTH ends. She doesn't need to be crippling herself in heels, which is Western culture's answer to foot binding.

 

You might want to check out some of the ground school videos from the library so she sees the purpose of math, science and geography before she gets too far into the school system. I hated math until a retired engineer showed me what it was for. Still don't like it, but I wish someone showed me earlier.

[rabiosocorazon]

Yes, he can.

[GabrielleDuVent]

Yama Budo is definitely pink. I have no problems with pink - have an extensive collection of pink shirts and T-shirts I wear. But I dont like this color.

 

Every time I've tried it, no matter what I set out to do, I've found myself writing fanmail to Justin Bieber and using the word "like", like, so often, along with "lolz". That's like, so totally unnecessary, you know, lolz.

 

Edited to add: If someone is willing to pay for postage from India (should be <$10, I reckon), I'd be happy to send them the bottle. I've taken out about 1-1.5 convertor's worth of ink from it.

 

Did you mail them? Please tell me no

 

 

Too old - I was barely under the age limit when they took the first female pilots, but also too short, too near-sighted, and too allergic. My husband was a military pilot, but now he can't pass the physical any more. I almost replied to your Hello Kitty post with my certainty that he would have taken the dare when he was young.

 

It will have to be left to my petite 6-year old granddaughter, who wants to be either a fighter pilot, an airline pilot, or an astronaut, depending on what day it is - if she can grow enough to make the height limit. She already knows more about aircraft operations, engineering, and instrumentation than any of the boys.

 

But she likes pink and will be getting a pink Lamy Nexx from me in a couple of months. I leave it up to her parents to decide when she can switch from washable blue to pink ink. It should go nicely with her little pink fighter pilot jacket from the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum's gift shop. We had to get her the limited edition military pilot Barbie to get her to stop wearing pink high heels with it - even Barbie is not allowed to wear pink high heels with a flight suit, she comes with standard combat boots.

 

Wandering from the topic again, I guess. Sorry.

 

Hey, I adore the colour pink (in fact, most of the things I own are pink), I like cooking, I love watching ballet, I go to the air and water show in my city every summer, and I switched from medical school to Physics, which is populated with males (plus two females in 150 people class).

 

I also wear heels. A LOT of heels. I trip over my own foot with flats.

[de_pen_dent]

 

Did you mail them? Please tell me no

 

 

Hey, I adore the colour pink (in fact, most of the things I own are pink), I like cooking, I love watching ballet, I go to the air and water show in my city every summer, and I switched from medical school to Physics, which is populated with males (plus two females in 150 people class).

 

I also wear heels. A LOT of heels. I trip over my own foot with flats.

 

Sadly, it has been taken, Gabrielle.

 

And funnily enough, right after I agreed to send it off, a gang of bikers driving by gave me the faintest of knowing nods. Later that day, I felt the irresistible urge to buy a whole bunch of power tools and start dremeling stuff.

[andreamcantu]

Yes, if you like it go for it. It won't make you any less of a man.. It don't think it will get you laughed at. People have more important things to do(hopefully). If however you where to ask me to categorize this ink as feminine or masculine, I would say is leads towards the feminine side. I love the color, but I'm not a man, so yeah...

[Scrawler]

There was a time in the recent past when the world was largely shades of greys and browns with the occasional moderate blue thrown in. We are going through a brief period that contains a wealth of colour. We do not know how long this wealth will last. It could be snatched away tomorrow in one of the paroxysms of violence that we humans seem to love so much. Or it could be lost in a disastrous collapse of our economic systems, that could result from our greed exceeding our humanity. As we do not know how long the joy of colour will be with us, I suggest that we celebrate it without prejudice. I know from my readings and experimentation that people experience colours slightly differently. Some have acuity disorders that reduce their capacity to experience specific wavelengths of light. Other lucky people (mostly female) are tetrachromats, having extra light receptors and can experience over 100 million hues and shades. So their experience of a complex colour like Yama Budo is different to a red or green deficient person. I myself am very slightly deficient in the blue/green area, which means that I see colours in the red/violet/magenta better than I see teals and the like. That affects my personal preference. Some of you think this is a shade of pink, because you are not seeing some of the blueish wavelengths that are reflected by this ink. Some of you are seeing the red in it less acutely than others. If you pass this ink through a spectrograph, you will soon realize that it is a very complex colour. That complexity means that it will not appeal to some, but will appeal very strongly to others. What this boils down to is, if you do not like this ink, or if you perceive it as having a gender bias, get your eyes checked.