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Can A Man Use Yama Budo?


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Just googled the ink in Japanese.

 

Conclusion: it really depends on the nib width.

 

This is one image:

 

http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20101123/00/anaximander/25/28/j/t02200293_0684091210875548812.jpg

 

then there's this...

 

http://k-dino.sakura.ne.jp/sblo_files/snoofy/image/purple.jpg

 

First was written in EF, second in F. Clearly, the colour looks pinker in the second.

Tes rires retroussés comme à son bord la rose,


Effacent mon dépit de ta métamorphose;


Tu t'éveilles, alors le rêve est oublié.



-Jean Cocteau, from Plaint-Chant, 1923

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Culture is a mixture of useful things, stupid things, and anything between. It is not logically coherent, and in particular you simply can't deduce the rules. You learn the rules by observation and by "correction." Typically girls learn the rules for girls and boys learn the rule for boys.

 

For those who think there are no current (these things can change over time) color/gender associations at all, consider this:

 

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/24/what-kids-learn-at-toys-r-us/

 

It would be interesting to explore whether what you see there is causing or only reflecting something.

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I know my id is "mhosea", but you can call me Mike. It's an old Unix thing.

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There was a time in the recent past when the world was largely shades of greys and browns with the occasional moderate blue thrown in. We are going through a brief period that contains a wealth of colour. We do not know how long this wealth will last. It could be snatched away tomorrow in one of the paroxysms of violence that we humans seem to love so much. Or it could be lost in a disastrous collapse of our economic systems, that could result from our greed exceeding our humanity. As we do not know how long the joy of colour will be with us, I suggest that we celebrate it without prejudice. I know from my readings and experimentation that people experience colours slightly differently. Some have acuity disorders that reduce their capacity to experience specific wavelengths of light. Other lucky people (mostly female) are tetrachromats, having extra light receptors and can experience over 100 million hues and shades. So their experience of a complex colour like Yama Budo is different to a red or green deficient person. I myself am very slightly deficient in the blue/green area, which means that I see colours in the red/violet/magenta better than I see teals and the like. That affects my personal preference. Some of you think this is a shade of pink, because you are not seeing some of the blueish wavelengths that are reflected by this ink. Some of you are seeing the red in it less acutely than others. If you pass this ink through a spectrograph, you will soon realize that it is a very complex colour. That complexity means that it will not appeal to some, but will appeal very strongly to others. What this boils down to is, if you do not like this ink, or if you perceive it as having a gender bias, get your eyes checked.

 

Or check the color and type of lighting in wherever you are sitting to write. It is true, and well known to photographers and artists, that different types of light affect your perception of what a color is. Incandescent turns everything slightly yellowish, traditional neons turn everything greenish, newer neons may be color-balanced in different ways from different manufacturers, most halogens appear to me to give everything a lavenderish cast. Natural daylight - preferably diffused by the traditional North-facing windows, is probably closest to true color - although outdoor daylight will turn everything blue if you are using older types of photographic film which were balanced for incandescent indoor lights.

 

I always look at an ink or an artist's paint in different lighting environments before I decide if it belongs in my palette.

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I actually signed on today to see if anyone had anything to say about Lamy offering another limited edition pink Safari (saw it on the Coming Soon page at Goulet this morning).

 

Edit: Come to think of it, the picture at Goulet also looks magenta to me - although the text says pink.

 

I have nothing against pink, or magenta, or whatever other color anyone thinks Yama Budo is. I do have pink ink and pink pens in my collection, although I usually like blues best. Wait, that came out sounding like it might be a reference to my piano playing. :unsure:

 

My daughter rebelled against pink after about 3rd grade, then decided she looked good in it and wears it regularly in her mid 30's.

 

My granddaughter loves pink, but is reported to be recently branching out a little to sky blue - which makes the airplane decorations look better.

 

All of us are very unconventional. In 1968, I was the only woman in a class of 300 computer science students. Things are a little better, my biologist daughter does know other women scientists - but not very many and all in different fields where they are the only one in their local area. Hopefully, my granddaughter can be a fighter pilot and use pink ink or not as it suits her mood.

 

As others have mentioned, these cultural perceptions can take odd turns.

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Should A Lady Offer A Yama Budo To A Man?

Every Tiparillo ad I've seen has been so sleazy it's almost funny. The guy in that one looks like a creep.

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Every Tiparillo ad I've seen has been so sleazy it's almost funny. The guy in that one looks like a creep.

 

And I found one that was not that offensive.

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I actually signed on today to see if anyone had anything to say about Lamy offering another limited edition pink Safari (saw it on the Coming Soon page at Goulet this morning).

 

 

Thanks for giving a heads-up! Must. Get. (drool)

 

The social inferences of a male using yamabudo should become an issue when the social inferences of females using blue becomes an issue. And then we're in trouble.

Tes rires retroussés comme à son bord la rose,


Effacent mon dépit de ta métamorphose;


Tu t'éveilles, alors le rêve est oublié.



-Jean Cocteau, from Plaint-Chant, 1923

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Still thinking that I saw that guy at court the other day.....He was a criminal defendant for a sex crime.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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To the OP...

 

At the end of the day, it's your pen and your ink, so use whatever colour combination you want.

Long reign the House of Belmont.

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Yama Budo separates the boy from the men. :P

For sale: M625 red/silver, P395 gold, Delta Fellini.

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Yama Budo separates the boy from the men. :P

 

 

And the pinks from the blues.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OP - Yes, a man can use Y-B so long as some ink remains in the bottle. This ink is likely to be used and the bottle empty before you get a chance to use it.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Strikingly beautiful colour. Gets (favourable) comments from ladies. Opens up avenues of conversation with ladies. Why shouldn't a man use it?

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Well played, MB, well played!

"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

~ Benjamin Franklin

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Conclusion: a man can look manly even with pink hair.

 

So a man can look manly while using pink ink. Case closed.

Tes rires retroussés comme à son bord la rose,


Effacent mon dépit de ta métamorphose;


Tu t'éveilles, alors le rêve est oublié.



-Jean Cocteau, from Plaint-Chant, 1923

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http://media-cache-ec3.pinimg.com/550x/80/12/66/801266aa2dc31e42b1567297d2c52876.jpg

 

My proudest parenting moment was when Working Man came on the radio, and my 10 year old looked at me and said "What is this? It sounds like Rush but the drumming is different."

 

I nearly died of happiness right then.

 

But lest you think that this is just off-topic bragging about the kidlet...note the cover of Rush's first album, the one from which Working Man came:

 

http://i.imgur.com/rQbKLUWl.jpg

 

Why, that's very nearly Yama-Budo colored!

 

Given Alex Lifeson's propensity for tight white trousers in the early years, we can be assured that at least 1/3 of Rush is most definitely male.

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