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Letter writing was a basic part of everyday life for most people throughout the 19th Century and well into the 20th Century. During World War II the only way for many families to keep in touch with their relatives in military service was with hand-written letters. This continued during the Korean War (1950-53) and, to a lesser extent during the Vietnam War.

 

But other than during wars, letter writing went into decline starting as early as the middle of the 20th Century. My guess is that the main reason for the decline was the growth of quality telephone service and its steadily declining cost. What do you think?

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The major cause is the internet and emailing, now the use of cell phones. We are able to pick up messages anywhere. My son is in the UK at the moment and he picks up my emails via his iphone instantaneously. Most email messages I receive are Banal and uninteresting, the person sending sounds impersonal. That's because writers no longer give any real thought as to what they want to say.

 

The decline in letter writing accelerated in the 1990s, and it is inevitable that this current generation will see its demise. The down side of course is that nothing of significance will be left for future generations to get a grasp of how people lived their lives.

 

I have read a collection of letters from one of my wife's relatives who wrote to his Mother from 1836 - 1850. He relates his travels through Ohio, Missouri and down the Mississippi river. When I read them I found it not only revealed his character and personality but brought back to life the atmosphere of that period.

 

I can't see this electronic age doing that.

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First, I agree that relatively cheap and convenient long-distance telephony played a large part in the decline of letter-writing. But that suggests to me, at least, that many of the people who had been writing the letters were not greatly motivated by the thrill of writing by hand with water-based ink, the urge to literate expression, or other such high-minded things. They were using the hand-written letter as a means to an end, and although some of the surviving letters can seem magical, many others, I'd guess many more, can seem pedestrian. When there was an easier way to keep in touch, people adopted it, because that was exactly what they'd wanted to do, keep in touch.

 

The same was true of ball-point pens: people who had written with fountain pens all their lives, people who were in no way lacking in FP experience, thought the ballpoint offered the better way to write.

 

Second, in my circle of acquaintance if not in everyone's, email has been the salvation of letter-writing. Certainly in my family. People who had long since stopped writing letters, whether by hand or on the typewriter, suddenly became copious and expressive. My sister's wit, long remembered from when we were both young, has been brought out once again by electronic correspondence. People who would absolutely not write me a letter on paper will write me lovely eletters.

 

People with whom I have what could be the most perfunctory kind of relationship, or none at all, such as those who send me electronic press releases, rise to the occasion when I send them considered replies. People in their twenties, some of them. If there's any one thing in my life that discourages an old man's brooding on the death of everything worthwhile, it is the way email has brought me exchanges of letters whose equal I could not have expected in the 1950s. I'm sorry for those who haven't been similarly blessed.

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I spent my working career in wireline telephony, and I can add just a little to the conversation. Early to mid-20th century, long distance rates were so much higher than postage, it didn't make any SERIOUS dent in written communication. Traditionally, even today, traffic thru the telephone network drops significantly (around 80%), after normal business hours. As late as 10 years ago, I was still paying 7 cents per minute, for long distance service.

 

The advent of email, and commonplace use of computers certainly replaced personal correspondence of course. And, if my 37 year-old daughter is any indication, texting seems to be replacing emails now.

 

That being said, in my personal experience, the "over 60" group I used to regularly email, and whom I now send short handwritten notes to, has thorougly enjoyed receiving 'Real' letters again. I doubt that in my lifetime, we'll ever see the later generations embrace writing again, which is a shame ( I think ).

 

One more (personal) observation... altho I don't text, nor own a cellphone, from what I have seen, the people who DO use this form of communication, really have nothing interesting to say, nor do they take the time to actually communicate any news of importance, abstract thought or useful dialogue. That is, of course, strictly my personal opinion, not the state of civilization.

 

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  On 10/15/2012 at 5:42 AM, Jerome Tarshis said:

First, I agree that relatively cheap and convenient long-distance telephony played a large part in the decline of letter-writing. But that suggests to me, at least, that many of the people who had been writing the letters were not greatly motivated by the thrill of writing by hand with water-based ink, the urge to literate expression, or other such high-minded things. They were using the hand-written letter as a means to an end, and although some of the surviving letters can seem magical, many others, I'd guess many more, can seem pedestrian. When there was an easier way to keep in touch, people adopted it, because that was exactly what they'd wanted to do, keep in touch.

 

The same was true of ball-point pens: people who had written with fountain pens all their lives, people who were in no way lacking in FP experience, thought the ballpoint offered the better way to write.

 

Second, in my circle of acquaintance if not in everyone's, email has been the salvation of letter-writing. Certainly in my family. People who had long since stopped writing letters, whether by hand or on the typewriter, suddenly became copious and expressive. My sister's wit, long remembered from when we were both young, has been brought out once again by electronic correspondence. People who would absolutely not write me a letter on paper will write me lovely eletters.

 

People with whom I have what could be the most perfunctory kind of relationship, or none at all, such as those who send me electronic press releases, rise to the occasion when I send them considered replies. People in their twenties, some of them. If there's any one thing in my life that discourages an old man's brooding on the death of everything worthwhile, it is the way email has brought me exchanges of letters whose equal I could not have expected in the 1950s. I'm sorry for those who haven't been similarly blessed.

 

Taking into consideration that you are from the same generation as I am. Your comment about considered replies is significant in the fact that your correspondents give thought to what they are about to write.

 

This is important in any form of correspondence. Unless we do send considered replies then there is the danger of our message being misconstrued, and the recipient could overreact and return an offensive reply. Because this is an extremely fast and useful means to communicate more self control is needed.

 

The most common problem with this electronic communication is editing, and a lot of individuals press the send button and the message can no longer be retrieved.

 

This is shown up in some of these forums where arguments get heated up and some individuals respond without considering their reply, and go on adding further controversial fuel until a moderator has to bring it to a halt!

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As recently as 1970, when I was in military training, letter writing was the primary means of communicating with the family. In the case of the trainee, this was due not only to the cost of long-distance telephone, but also to the convenience of letter writing. One could write when time permitted, and mail the letter when possible. Phones just weren't that widely available.

 

Fast-forward some 35 or 40 years and I find that my daughter (mid-20's) is every bit as letter-literate as we were when I was writing home to the family. She sends me emails often, and they are a true view into her life and feelings. We write back and forth often, either exploring feelings or solving problems. This even though we have a cell phone package that allows free communication from one cell phone to another, and also in spite of the fact that she lives only about 30 minutes from mom and dad. I don't think letter writing will cease to exist, but I do think it will migrate almost entirely to electronic delivery. Traditional hand-written letters may become the work of hobbyists, rather than being part of everyday life.

 

I agree with the other poster (sorry - forgot who made the point) that unless people print their emails, which most do not, then future generations may lose the ability to see life as we write about it.

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  On 10/15/2012 at 4:09 PM, SteveE said:

As recently as 1970, when I was in military training, letter writing was the primary means of communicating with the family. In the case of the trainee, this was due not only to the cost of long-distance telephone, but also to the convenience of letter writing. One could write when time permitted, and mail the letter when possible. Phones just weren't that widely available.

 

Fast-forward some 35 or 40 years and I find that my daughter (mid-20's) is every bit as letter-literate as we were when I was writing home to the family. She sends me emails often, and they are a true view into her life and feelings. We write back and forth often, either exploring feelings or solving problems. This even though we have a cell phone package that allows free communication from one cell phone to another, and also in spite of the fact that she lives only about 30 minutes from mom and dad. I don't think letter writing will cease to exist, but I do think it will migrate almost entirely to electronic delivery. Traditional hand-written letters may become the work of hobbyists, rather than being part of everyday life.

 

I agree with the other poster (sorry - forgot who made the point) that unless people print their emails, which most do not, then future generations may lose the ability to see life as we write about it.

 

I'm formulating the idea of scanning my handwritten letters into my computer and sending them to my co-respondents via email. After all quite a number of reviews on fountain pens and inks are done this way.

 

During World War two I have learned that the U.S. Military Post Office microfilmed personal letters in order to get these delivered very fast. The Microfilm was photographed back on to paper and delivered on to the recipient. Correspondence in times of war is very important for morale.

 

My co-respondent would be able to print them if they so desired. I'll start with my Sister to see what reaction I get.

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Sincerely yours,

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I've begun to notice the pattern in the society. Where people of my generation (teens to 30s year olds) are glued to their iphones or tablets emailing and texting. Ive began to get into fountain pen and penmanship as of a few years ago. I felt it was more personal writing letters to my relatives and loved ones. Lots of time they are asking ' why couldn't you just email me the letter? it's cheaper and faster! and you save the money on postage stamp' I fear for the future as well.

 

I certainly don't want the penmanship to fade in the future. Because think of this, common people back in the 1700's and the 1800's developed and used pocket watches to keep track of their orientation of time of day or night. They stowed it away in their vest pockets or pant pockets. Then there comes the wristwatches in the turn of century, fastfoward 100 years there's smart phones, guess where it goes? in pockets. It had came in a full circle.

 

I suspect that would happen to penmanship in the future. Its just that I fear that one couldn't discipher or write in cursive or even Spencerian. Thus ultimately insulting the writing style ridiculous and exaggerating.

 

I am going to keep the penmanship bright as much as possible by telling my children and grandchildren, writing improves your dexterity and motor skills actually.

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  On 10/15/2012 at 5:39 PM, Pickwick said:
  On 10/15/2012 at 4:09 PM, SteveE said:

As recently as 1970, when I was in military training, letter writing was the primary means of communicating with the family. In the case of the trainee, this was due not only to the cost of long-distance telephone, but also to the convenience of letter writing. One could write when time permitted, and mail the letter when possible. Phones just weren't that widely available.

 

Fast-forward some 35 or 40 years and I find that my daughter (mid-20's) is every bit as letter-literate as we were when I was writing home to the family. She sends me emails often, and they are a true view into her life and feelings. We write back and forth often, either exploring feelings or solving problems. This even though we have a cell phone package that allows free communication from one cell phone to another, and also in spite of the fact that she lives only about 30 minutes from mom and dad. I don't think letter writing will cease to exist, but I do think it will migrate almost entirely to electronic delivery. Traditional hand-written letters may become the work of hobbyists, rather than being part of everyday life.

 

I agree with the other poster (sorry - forgot who made the point) that unless people print their emails, which most do not, then future generations may lose the ability to see life as we write about it.

 

I'm formulating the idea of scanning my handwritten letters into my computer and sending them to my co-respondents via email. After all quite a number of reviews on fountain pens and inks are done this way.

 

During World War two I have learned that the U.S. Military Post Office microfilmed personal letters in order to get these delivered very fast. The Microfilm was photographed back on to paper and delivered on to the recipient. Correspondence in times of war is very important for morale.

 

My co-respondent would be able to print them if they so desired. I'll start with my Sister to see what reaction I get.

 

Hey the scanning idea is great! I think i'm gonna start doing that. Still for myself at 23 years young I think that the pace of life we now lead is just too fast. My generation is all about "THE NOW" and not later. Perhaps we can learn to take a step back and buy out the time to smell the roses and write a letter that conveys, not only words, but emotion.

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Not all technology development is bad. Today, thanks to smartphones and web services like instagram, we not only get words but also pictures across the world in an instant. :)

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  On 10/15/2012 at 7:10 PM, MTS2 said:
  On 10/15/2012 at 5:39 PM, Pickwick said:
  On 10/15/2012 at 4:09 PM, SteveE said:

As recently as 1970, when I was in military training, letter writing was the primary means of communicating with the family. In the case of the trainee, this was due not only to the cost of long-distance telephone, but also to the convenience of letter writing. One could write when time permitted, and mail the letter when possible. Phones just weren't that widely available.

 

Fast-forward some 35 or 40 years and I find that my daughter (mid-20's) is every bit as letter-literate as we were when I was writing home to the family. She sends me emails often, and they are a true view into her life and feelings. We write back and forth often, either exploring feelings or solving problems. This even though we have a cell phone package that allows free communication from one cell phone to another, and also in spite of the fact that she lives only about 30 minutes from mom and dad. I don't think letter writing will cease to exist, but I do think it will migrate almost entirely to electronic delivery. Traditional hand-written letters may become the work of hobbyists, rather than being part of everyday life.

 

I agree with the other poster (sorry - forgot who made the point) that unless people print their emails, which most do not, then future generations may lose the ability to see life as we write about it.

 

I'm formulating the idea of scanning my handwritten letters into my computer and sending them to my co-respondents via email. After all quite a number of reviews on fountain pens and inks are done this way.

 

During World War two I have learned that the U.S. Military Post Office microfilmed personal letters in order to get these delivered very fast. The Microfilm was photographed back on to paper and delivered on to the recipient. Correspondence in times of war is very important for morale.

 

My co-respondent would be able to print them if they so desired. I'll start with my Sister to see what reaction I get.

 

Hey the scanning idea is great! I think i'm gonna start doing that. Still for myself at 23 years young I think that the pace of life we now lead is just too fast. My generation is all about "THE NOW" and not later. Perhaps we can learn to take a step back and buy out the time to smell the roses and write a letter that conveys, not only words, but emotion.

 

Your thoughts reminded me of a poem I learned at school written by William Henry Davies

 

What is this life if full of care,

 

We have no time to stand and stare.

 

No time to stand beneath the boughs

 

And stare as long as Sheep and Cows.

 

No time to see, when woods we pass

 

Where Squirrels hide their nuts in grass.

 

No time to see, in broad daylight

 

Streams full of stars, like skies at night.

 

No time to turn at Beauty's glance,

 

And watch her feet, how they can dance.

 

No time to wait till her mouth can

 

Enrich that smile her eyes began.

 

A poor life this if, full of care,

 

We have no time to stand and stare.

They came as a boon, and a blessing to men,
The Pickwick, the Owl and the Waverley pen

Sincerely yours,

Pickwick

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I think that email is largely replacing written letters, and in many ways that's a good thing. Personally I hardly send letters at all anymore, and I would really only do it for more casual conversations, that are not time sensitive.

 

I love writing by hand, and journaling by hand, I just got out any letter writing habit I had a long time ago. I would do it more maybe if I knew more people who would respond, or wouldn't look at it like it was crazy. I think that's one of the bigger issues amongst younger people. They wouldn't know what to do with a letter if they got one, and wouldn't respond either way. I wouldn't be surprised if they even had no envelopes or stamps.

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Let me play the devil's advocate to some of you old farts :) I will add that I'm 24 years old and I realize that I’m young enough to be a grandson to some of you.

 

It sounds like many of you have an issue with HOW the newer generation communicates rather than the tools they use. Let's not forget that at one point in time, there was a grumpy old caveman who thought his grandchildren were lazy because they painted on animal skin rather than chiseling on the side of the cave wall (that is far from historically accurate but I hope you see my point).

 

Tools for communication have evolved rapidly over the past century compared to the last 1000 years. We've seen ballpoints, typewriters, computers, fax machines, cordless phones, cell phones, the internet, and so many other tools. You may or may not like it, but these tools represent an evolution of communication. They allow us to communicate with people instantly who live thousands of miles away. They also save time and money.

 

Again, I think many of your gripes are about the quality of what the modern generation communicates, but in my opinion the problem occurs with people of all ages. One of the more obvious issues is the incorrect use of heterographs. While it’s more prominent in young people, I’ve gotten emails from 60 year old men who make well over $1million a year (and are very educated) that say something like “I am going to visit THERE office today.” Or “Your doing a great job.”

 

My parents are middle aged and a few years ago, they thought text messaging was ridiculous. They laughed that I had a Facebook, and couldn’t understand why I used the internet on my phone. Fast forward to 2012, they both have Facebooks, I get text messages from them all the time, and both of them have an iphone. They eventually realized that they have specific advantages and there is a reason each form of communication is valuable. I applaud my dad for telling me one day "I realized I was acting like an ignorant old man and Facebook actually is pretty neat." He was able to get in touch with an old high school friend who now lives in Europe.

 

When it comes down to it, handwriting letters is time consuming, messy, more expensive, and takes more time to deliver. However, in the 21st century, hand writing a letter is considered a sign of eloquence. It also offers a more personal feel.

 

I’m very used to dealing with people in retirement in my profession. I always handwrite my notes during appointments, hand write birthday cards to clients, and everything is handwritten. I do so because it shows that I took the time to care about the person I'm communicating with. However, I still get probably 200 emails a day, 30+ phone calls, and even occasional text messages from clients.

 

Different people prefer different forms of communication. The more we progress, the less people find the need to hand write a letter.

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Sadly I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. I rarely write letters and have never been much of a letter writer. I've started quite a few letters to communicate some information and ended up scrapping the letter and giving the person a call or dropping them an email. Between calls, email, texts and facebook there is very little information left to send in a letter to the people I want to keep in touch with.

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I think that this is a topic that we cannot generalize based on age. My dad (mid 60s) has tried to be on the cutting edge of technology his whole life. We had a personal computer at home in the early 80s; he had a Facebook before I did; he is the most paperless person I know. He thinks I am a little crazy to write to people by hand.

 

 

My 20 year old daughter, on the other hand, has Facebook but rarely uses it, and as she has seen me correspond with pen pals has started writing letters herself. She goes as far as sending an extra stamped, pre-addressed envelope when she writes a letter to her cousin. Recently she was offended because she wrote a letter to her grandmother, and her grandmother wrote back with a typed response.

 

 

There are people who will never enjoy writing letters by hand; these are the same people who abandoned letter writing in the first place when something easier came along There are others, though, who just need to be shown the pleasures they are missing, and they will take letter writing into the future.

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A friend of mine and I got back into letter writing about 2 years ago and haven't looked back since. We often write 2-3 times a week. There's something very relaxing about putting thoughts on paper, feeling the pen glide on the paper. It's a form of stress-relief for two tired moms! Yes, it's slower, but we both get so much more out of it than via emailing or texting. Besides, how else am I supposed to use up all this ink I've got?! B)

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  On 10/16/2012 at 4:25 PM, pakmanpony said:

Sadly I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. I rarely write letters and have never been much of a letter writer. I've started quite a few letters to communicate some information and ended up scrapping the letter and giving the person a call or dropping them an email. Between calls, email, texts and facebook there is very little information left to send in a letter to the people I want to keep in touch with.

With every respect what do you use the elegant pen you display for?

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The Pickwick, the Owl and the Waverley pen

Sincerely yours,

Pickwick

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If I received 200 emails a day, I'd throw my computer out the window. When someone in an office two doors down emails me instead of picking up the phone (or getting off their arse and walking 20 feet), I shake my head. Email is a wonderful thing, but jeez.

 

I love writing letters, even postcards, and better yet receiving them.

 

Does anyone know whether they still produce aerogrammes?

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  On 10/16/2012 at 11:45 PM, Pickwick said:
  On 10/16/2012 at 4:25 PM, pakmanpony said:

Sadly I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. I rarely write letters and have never been much of a letter writer. I've started quite a few letters to communicate some information and ended up scrapping the letter and giving the person a call or dropping them an email. Between calls, email, texts and facebook there is very little information left to send in a letter to the people I want to keep in touch with.

With every respect what do you use the elegant pen you display for?

 

I was about to ask the same question! Looks like you beat me to me :roflmho:

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Not to supplant any of the above opinions and thoughts regarding the downfall of the handwritten letter but rather to add, quite frankly, the mental aspects of hand writing a letter are significantly more difficult than typing out an email. For one, in order for a handwritten letter to look nice, one has to put advance thought into grammar and content before penning. If we were to "splurt out" words as we often do when using electronic media, we can't just hit the delete button and tidy it up. The ink stains the paper. Obviously there is no spell check, so we may have to use an actual dictionary (though many "electronic writers" are still to lazy to proofread their work), and the quality of our penmanship is brutally obvious, all leaving us more vulnerable in a way.

I for one still enjoy buying stamps. I love to peruse the choices when I advance to the counter at the post office, much to the chagrin of those behind me, and I still save the cancelled stamps from mail that I receive. This is an anomaly these days. I just wonder when someone will start to charge a postage fee, of sorts, when sending electronic mail. Probably when the post office goes kaput, though I hope this doesn't happen within my lifetime--though the privatization of it just might in the foreseeable future.

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      YOu might need to thicken the coffee with something. I admit I have no idea with what. But I'm pretty sure it would work.
    • asnailmailer 3 Feb 17:35
      it is incowrimo time and only very few people are tempting me
    • lamarax 31 Jan 21:34
      Try black coffee. No sugar.
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 Jan 8:11
      Coffee is too light to write with though I've tried.
    • Astronymus 29 Jan 21:46
      You can use coffee and all other kinds of fluid with a glas pen. 😉
    • Roger Zhao 29 Jan 14:37
      chocolate is yummy
    • Bucefalo 17 Jan 9:59
      anyone sells vacumatic push button shafts
    • stxrling 13 Jan 1:25
      Are there any threads or posts up yet about the California Pen Show in February, does anyone know?
    • lamarax 10 Jan 20:27
      Putting coffee in a fountain pen is far more dangerous
    • asnailmailer 9 Jan 0:09
      Don't drink the ink
    • zug zug 8 Jan 16:48
      Coffee inks or coffee, the drink? Both are yummy though.
    • LandyVlad 8 Jan 5:37
      I hear the price of coffee is going up. WHich is bad because I like coffee.
    • asnailmailer 6 Jan 14:43
      time for a nice cup of tea
    • Just J 25 Dec 1:57
      @liauyat re editing profile: At forum page top, find the Search panel. Just above that you should see your user name with a tiny down arrow [🔽] alongside. Click that & scroll down to CONTENT, & under that, Profile. Click that, & edit 'til thy heart's content!
    • liapuyat 12 Dec 12:20
      I can't seem to edit my profile, which is years out of date, because I've only returned to FPN again recently. How do you fix it?
    • mattaw 5 Dec 14:25
      @lantanagal did you do anything to fix that? I get that page every time I try to go to edit my profile...
    • Penguincollector 30 Nov 19:14
      Super excited to go check out the PDX Pen Bazaar today. I volunteered to help set up tables. It should be super fun, followed by Xmas tree shopping. 😁
    • niuben 30 Nov 10:41
      @Nurse Ratchet
    • Nurse Ratchet 30 Nov 2:49
      Newbie here!!! Helloall
    • Emes 25 Nov 23:31
      jew
    • Misfit 9 Nov 2:38
      lantanagal, I’ve only seen that happen when you put someone on the ignore list. I doubt a friend would do that.
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 19:01
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Exact message is: Requested page not available! Dear Visitor of the Fountain Pen Nuthouse The page you are requesting to visit is not available to you. You are not authorised to access the requested page. Regards, The FPN Admin Team November 7, 2024
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 18:59
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Trying to send a pen friend a reply to a message, keep getting an error message to say I don't have access. Anyone any ideas? (tried logging our and back in to no avail)
    • Dr.R 2 Nov 16:58
      Raina’s
    • fireant 2 Nov 1:36
      Fine-have you had a nibmeister look at it?
    • carlos.q 29 Oct 15:19
      @FineFinerFinest: have you seen this thread? https://www.fountainpennetwor...nging-pelikan-nibs/#comments
    • FineFinerFinest 24 Oct 8:52
      No replies required to my complaints about the Pelikan. A friend came to the rescue with some very magnification equipment - with the images thrown to a latge high res screen. Technology is a wonderful thing. Thanks to Mercian for the reply. I had been using the same paper & ink for sometime when the "singing" started. I have a theory but no proof that nibs get damaged when capping the pen. 👍
    • Mercian 22 Oct 22:28
      @FineFinerFinest: sometimes nib-'singing' can be lessened - or even cured - by changing the ink that one is putting through the pen, or the paper that one is using. N.b. *sometimes*. Good luck
    • Bluetaco 22 Oct 22:04
      howdy
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 5:23
      I'm not expecting any replies to my question about the singing Pelikan nib. It seems, from reading the background, that I am not alone. It's a nice pen. It's such a pity Pelikan can't make decent nibs. I have occasionally met users who tell me how wonderful their Pelikan nib is. I've spent enough money to know that not everyone has this experience. I've worked on nibs occasionally over forty years with great success. This one has me beaten. I won't be buying any more Pelikan pens. 👎
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 4:27
      I've had a Pelikan M805 for a couple of years now and cannot get the nib to write without singing. I've worked on dozens of nibs with great success. Ny suggestion about what's going wrong? 😑
    • Bhakt 12 Oct 5:45
      Any feedback in 100th anniversary Mont Blanc green pens?
    • Glens pens 8 Oct 15:08
      @jordierocks94 i happen to have platinum preppy that has wrote like (bleep) since i bought it my second pen....is that something you would wish to practice on?
    • jordierocks94 4 Oct 6:26
      Hello all - New here. My Art studies have spilled me into the ft pen world where I am happily submerged and floating! I'm looking to repair some cheap pens that are starving for ink yet filled, and eventually get new nibs; and development of repair skills (an even longer learning curve than my art studies - lol). Every hobby needs a hobby, eh ...
    • The_Beginner 18 Sept 23:35
      horse notebooks if you search the title should still appear though it wont show you in your proflie
    • Jayme Brener 16 Sept 22:21
      Hi, guys. I wonder if somebody knows who manufactured the Coro fountain pens.
    • TheHorseNotebooks 16 Sept 13:11
      Hello, it's been ages for me since I was here last time. I had a post (http://www.fountainpennetwork...-notebooks/?view=getnewpost) but I see that it is no longer accessible. Is there anyway to retrieve that one?
    • Refujio Rodriguez 16 Sept 5:39
      I have a match stick simplomatic with a weidlich nib. Does anyone know anything about this pen?
    • The_Beginner 15 Sept 16:11
      dusty yes, glen welcome
    • Glens pens 11 Sept 1:22
      Hello, Im new to FPN I'm so happy to find other foutain penattics. collecting almost one year ,thought I would say hello to everyone.
    • DustyBin 8 Sept 14:34
      I haven't been here for ages... do I take it that private sales are no longer allowed? Also used to be a great place to sell and buy some great pens
    • Sailor Kenshin 1 Sept 12:37
      Lol…
    • JungleJim 1 Sept 1:55
      Perhaps it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times to get that person to appear, though with @Sailor Kenshin you only have to say it twice?
    • Sailor Kenshin 31 Aug 21:06
      ?
    • Duffy 29 Aug 19:31
      @Sailor Kenshin @Sailor Kenshin
    • Seney724 26 Aug 22:07
    • Diablo 26 Aug 22:05
      Thank you so much, Seney724. I really appreciate your help!
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:43
      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
    • Sailor Kenshin 15 July 17:41
      There must be a couple of places here to share artworks.
    • T.D. Rabbit 15 July 12:45
      Hullo! I really like making ink doodles, and I'd like to share a few. Anywhere on the site I can do so? Thanks in advance!
    • Sailor Kenshin 6 July 17:58
      Pay It Forward.
    • AndWhoDisguisedAs 6 July 16:59
      where would I post wanting to trade bottle of ink straight up?
    • JungleJim 3 July 16:14
      @Bill Wood-- just look at the message below you that was posted by @PAKMAN. He is a moderator here on the forums.
    • Bill Wood 2 July 14:24
      Just checking on a classified section and where we are with that. Many thanks. Bill
    • PAKMAN 29 June 1:57
      @inky1 The software for the classified stopped working with the forum. So no we don't have a sales section anymore at FPN
    • inky1 28 June 16:49
      I am not sure which is the classifieds section
    • inky1 28 June 16:46
      IIs there a Fountain Pen Sales board anywhere on here?
    • dave c 25 June 19:01
      Hi. Anybody ever heard about a Royal Puck Pen. Very small but good looking.
    • Eppie_Matts 23 June 19:25
      Thanks! I've just ordered some #6's to experiment with.
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