The Wahl Pen Identification

September 18, 2012

Hello,

I'd like to ask for help with making a positive id of the pen below. I think it might be the 622W model shown in 1925 catalogue ( After reading this forum I gather that 6 = pen size, 2 = nib size, 2 = BCHR in dart pattern, W = without clip - ???). But having seen only the said catalogue and some ads from 1922, I can't be sure.

Can this be the 622W? If so, when was it in production? I don't thing the pen is present in 1928 9-27 catalogue. So is 1925-27 possible? Or 1924-27? Is 6 really a size description and if so, does that mean any particular length? Or diameter?

Does the fact that the nib imprint is: Wahl 2 14kt and not Wahl Pen 2 helps to identify when was it produced? How about the "Made in Chicago" cap imprint?

Any help is welcome and TIA for it

Mac

The pen measures 92 mm, the cap diameter is 10,8 mm (widest point)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/1Wahlblackclose.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/2Wahlblackopen.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/3Wahlblackcap.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/5Wahlblacknib.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/6Wahlblackfeed.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/pomidorium/actuel/PIORA%20WIECZNE/4cap_imprint.jpg

Edited September 18, 2012 by mac.kozinsky

September 19, 2012

Well, although I'm a pencil guy I can help a little bit.

All of the Wahl pens were made in Chicago, so that doesn't help.

6 is the pen size - should be 4 1/4 inches long, according to the catalog. If it's 3 1/2 inches it's a numer 5 size. We don't need no stinkin' millimeters!

2 does mean a number 2 nib.

The second 2 denotes the darts pattern. A 6 would be the grecian border, and no third digit meant the ordinary zigzag chasing (although the model 62 is in the 1924 catalog, it's not in the 1925 one).

According to the 1925 Catalog, the "W" meant that it has a yellow gold filled ring and lever.

If you haven't already joined the Pen Collectors of America, you should do so. For $40 or so a year, you get online access to the PCA library, which includes Wahl catalogs from 1919, 1921, 1922, 1924, 1925, some limited 1927 stuff, 1928 and 1929.

September 19, 2012

Well, although I'm a pencil guy I can help a little bit.

Thanks a lot for the answer Jon

All of the Wahl pens were made in Chicago, so that doesn't help.

Yeah, I know where the company originated from, but not all their pens have this "Made in Chicago" imprint, right? Hence the question: When they started using it (imediately after Tempoint?) and when did they stop?

6 is the pen size - should be 4 1/4 inches long, according to the catalog. If it's 3 1/2 inches it's a number 5 size. We don't need no stinkin' millimeters!

All right, all right - the pen is 4,25 inches long and I'll try to remember: no millimeters Here in Europe we are strangely attached to decimals, you know ..

2 does mean a number 2 nib.

OK

The second 2 denotes the darts pattern. A 6 would be the grecian border, and no third digit meant the ordinary zigzag chasing (although the model 62 is in the 1924 catalog, it's not in the 1925 one).

I looked at the codes info and description there is for each code in the catalogue again and it makes more sense to me now. Any other numbers we can associate with particular pattern outside the 1925 catalogue? There were quite a few of them (Wahl pen patterns) back in the day iirc ...

According to the 1925 Catalog, the "W" meant that it has a yellow gold filled ring and lever.

Right, ring top and lever it is.

If you haven't already joined the Pen Collectors of America, you should do so. For $40 or so a year, you get online access to the PCA library, which includes Wahl catalogs from 1919, 1921, 1922, 1924, 1925, some limited 1927 stuff, 1928 and 1929.

Yeah, I'm constantly directed to PCA. I'm almost there, thanks :-) In the meantime: Will I find this 622W (it is the pen in the photos, right?) in 1924 catalogue?

Also: Let me say this - I admire you pencil collection and it has been like that for some time know. Respect!

Thanks again and All the best,

Mac

September 20, 2012

Made in Chicago . . . don't know. I'm expert on the pencil imprints but I don't know much about what was on the pens.

On the patterns, the only ones shown in the catalogs in hard rubber were the three I mentioned. Apparently Wahl didn't offer the full range of the patterns found on the metal pencils on the hard rubber ones.

Glad that helped. The stuff I found was in the 1925 catalog, and I didn't see it in the 1924 catalog. But bear in mind I've never seen a 1926 or full 1927 catalog, so it might have been offered later than 1925, too.

Happy hunting!