Ink mixes that didn't work

[amberleadavis]

LOL

 

HOD is interesting.

[medicalcpa]

Mixing De Atramentis Document Fuchsia with Noodler's North African Violet produces a highly staining gelatinous sludge.

[alfredop]

Mixing De Atramentis Document Fuchsia with Noodler's North African Violet produces a highly staining gelatinous sludge.

 

 

Alfredo

[georges zaslavsky]

Waterman havana brown and PR Avocado Green, Waterman hava brown turns dark green and becomes gunkish with age, never mix the both.

 

Waterman encre violette and MB Royale Blue, Waterman encre violette because gunkish with age and clogs pens , I had to rince intensively a pen filled with that mix because it was clogged.

[stoof2010]

Noodlers black and Sheaffer red.

No bad reaction but they are like oil and water. You can get them to mix mostly and if used after mixing it's a great red black but not in the traditional sense. It's like a darker red that pools black.

However after a day or so in the vial or a pen they separate out and the black sinks. Can be shaken back up but too much trouble for me.

[stoof2010]

Perhaps this is already well documented, and if so, I only hope this post can help some poor soul like me who didn't already know.

 

I have a bottle of the washed out grey variety of Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black. It is so very well behaved...and such a dreadful colour. So I decided to mix it with some Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black.

 

Don't do it.

 

A month later, and after flushing my Lamy Studio section for a good ten minutes, it is still expelling black 'ink dandruff'. It is now soaking in a jam jar (full of water, not jam, otherwise the black particles may be strawberry pips!) and continues to cough up flakes of matter. The pen was writing well, so I think I've dodged a clog. Lesson learnt.

I'm surprised by this!!!

I haven't tried mixing any pelikan inks but the "rule of thumb" in my understanding is your best bet is mixing inks from same company/line.

That's crazy.

Thanks for the warning. I have many pelikan inks coming to play with and surely I would have ended up mixing some.

Do you know if it's just those two or is it any of the 4001 line?

[stoof2010]

Noodlers black and Sheaffer red.

No bad reaction but they are like oil and water. You can get them to mix mostly and if used after mixing it's a great red black but not in the traditional sense. It's like a darker red that pools black.

However after a day or so in the vial or a pen they separate out and the black sinks. Can be shaken back up but too much trouble for me.

I apologize everyone. It was diamine poppy red and bulletproof black. I just dug out the bottle and I wrote bulletproof poppy on it.

[InkyColors]

Monteverde Erinite and Monteverde Mulberry Noir.  I tried adding a few drops of Mulberry Noir to some Erinite, hoping to tone down the minty green and give it more depth.  It did create a decent teal, but the ink fizzed when I mixed them.  It looks okay now (a couple of hours later) but I'm afraid to use it.

[InkyColors]

10 hours ago, InkyColors said:

Monteverde Erinite and Monteverde Mulberry Noir.  I tried adding a few drops of Mulberry Noir to some Erinite, hoping to tone down the minty green and give it more depth.  It did create a decent teal, but the ink fizzed when I mixed them.  It looks okay now (a couple of hours later) but I'm afraid to use it.

An update:  I never could find the pH of Mulberry Noir and I suspect that was the problem.  Since I know the pHs of Erinite and Fire Opal are nearly the same I tried adding a drop of Fire Opal to kill the mint.  It was more successful and I think I like the color better anyway.  Anything is an improvement over that bright, minty-green of Erinite alone.  (And this from a person who loves all greens.)

[Ethelios]

Pelikan 4001 inks: brilliant green plus blue makes a really faded teal color, not pretty, not recommended. It fades even more.

[IlikeInksandIcannotlie]

MB Midnight Blue (Non-IG) + Waterman Serenity Blue: Looks fine at first glance, but begins to sediment slightly over long periods of time.

[Anne-Sophie]

 

Pelikan Turquoise 4001 (green teal) was accidentally filled into a Vista feed and Lamy converted which had residues of Lamy Pacific (blue teal) and vice versa

 

The feed and converter were used for a while, then the Turquoise and Pacific pens stopped working after giving out a generic identical teal, for a while.

 

The mixed inks dry each other out.

 

It resulted in months of rinsing off both feeds and converters pair, putting those teal fps out of use, until I bought extra Vistas and Lamy converters.

 

I now fill teal fountain pens, one by one, by placing one of my teal bottle in my filling tray. Then, the teal pen which holds that particular ink.

 

Big filling session are too risky for teal inks, they look too much alike.

 

 

   

[InesF]

During ink property measurement I poured residues of J.Herbin Orange Soleil and Shogun into the same glass baker. Only some seconds later the content gelatinised. This was the first time I could observe such a behaviour. Interesting!  

[Sholom]

Gelatinisation is one of the things that can happen if anionic and cationic dyes or surfactants are mixed.

[grayautumnday]

On 3/12/2024 at 7:40 PM, Sholom said:

Gelatinisation is one of the things that can happen if anionic and cationic dyes or surfactants are mixed.

Could gelatinization occur if amphoteric(zwitteronic) ingredients in two solutions - one moderately basic and one moderately acidic - are mixed?