Anyone With An Architect's Point Nib Or Arabic/hebrew Nib?

[monoceros]

Hi all! It's been a while since I was last on FPN, though I've been steadily using my fountain pens for the past several years. I've always loved writing with a nib that will give me a thin/narrow down-stroke and a broader cross-stroke. So with my italic and left-oblique nibs, I tend to angle my pen such that I get that sort of writing.

 

Someone recently told me about John Mottishaw's Architect's Point nib and the Arabric/Hebrew nib and I'm curious if anyone out there has one and if they could tell me more about these nibs, whether they enjoy them, whether it's a lot easier to get that narrow down-stroke and broad cross-stroke effect etc.

 

Thanks for reading, and I'll probably pop by the Nakaya threads later...that new Naka-ai model is tempting me! I got my first Nakaya six years ago. Might be time to get a new one...

[Cerbeos]

I don't have any knowledge on these, sorry.

 

Anyways, here's a free bump! (I'd be 100% astonished if there was a pen that at least someone here didn't own!)

[Ghost Plane]

Have the double-sided thanks to a friend and it's awesome! Left oblique leaned to the left, right oblique/Arabic when leaned to the right. Away from cameras and the pen right now so I can't give you a sample. But I think fuchsiaprincess posted a writing sample last year :hmm1:

[kushbaby]

I have a few of Binder's Arabic nibs, and I adore them.

 

Edit to add photo of my Visconti Wallstreet LE that started life as a BB, and is now an arabic/hebrew nib.

 

Edited June 12, 2012 by kushbaby

[monoceros]

I have a few of Binder's Arabic nibs, and I adore them.

 

Nice! Thanks for sharing! Which of Binder's Arabic nibs do you have? Do you prefer broader Arabic nibs or does Binder's 0.7 vanishing point nib write well too (do you have that)? Are Arabic nibs generally smooth to write with?

[monoceros]

Have the double-sided thanks to a friend and it's awesome! Left oblique leaned to the left, right oblique/Arabic when leaned to the right. Away from cameras and the pen right now so I can't give you a sample. But I think fuchsiaprincess posted a writing sample last year :hmm1:

 

Double-sided! Must be fun to write with. Will look for fushiaprincess's sample. Thanks!

 

And Cerbeos, thanks for the bump!

[kushbaby]

I have a few of Binder's Arabic nibs, and I adore them.

 

Nice! Thanks for sharing! Which of Binder's Arabic nibs do you have? Do you prefer broader Arabic nibs or does Binder's 0.7 vanishing point nib write well too (do you have that)? Are Arabic nibs generally smooth to write with?

 

I have three: a 0.7 on a Pelikan M800 Blue o Blue, a 0.9 on a Vanishing Point nib, and this Wallstreet (the image I posted), which was essentially the size he could make it given the original nib size (probably about 0.7, hard to tell. 0.9 is definitely bigger).

 

Unfortunately, Binder no longer customizes existing nibs (like he did with my Wallstreet). I hope Mottishaw still does - I have a pen that I want to make into number 4.

 

Edit to add: I realized I didn't really answer your question. I like both the 0.9 and 0.7. Depends on how you write. The 0.9 certainly writes a pretty wide (horizonatal) line, so it depends on your preference in writing. If you write small at all, the 0.9 will make you crazy (like any fat B nib would). And yes, the Binder arabics I have are smooth.

Edited June 12, 2012 by kushbaby

[monoceros]

I have a few of Binder's Arabic nibs, and I adore them.

 

Nice! Thanks for sharing! Which of Binder's Arabic nibs do you have? Do you prefer broader Arabic nibs or does Binder's 0.7 vanishing point nib write well too (do you have that)? Are Arabic nibs generally smooth to write with?

 

I have three: a 0.7 on a Pelikan M800 Blue o Blue, a 0.9 on a Vanishing Point nib, and this Wallstreet (the image I posted), which was essentially the size he could make it given the original nib size (probably about 0.7, hard to tell. 0.9 is definitely bigger).

 

Unfortunately, Binder no longer customizes existing nibs (like he did with my Wallstreet). I hope Mottishaw still does - I have a pen that I want to make into number 4.

 

Edit to add: I realized I didn't really answer your question. I like both the 0.9 and 0.7. Depends on how you write. The 0.9 certainly writes a pretty wide (horizonatal) line, so it depends on your preference in writing. If you write small at all, the 0.9 will make you crazy (like any fat B nib would). And yes, the Binder arabics I have are smooth.

 

I believe Mottishaw still does regrinds...was checking out his website.

 

Thanks for the comments on the nibs! I decided to order Binder's 0.7 nib for my Vanishing Point. Really looking forward to this.

 

I'll see how it works for me. Might be tempted to get more Arabic nibs later!

[kushbaby]

I have a few of Binder's Arabic nibs, and I adore them.

 

Nice! Thanks for sharing! Which of Binder's Arabic nibs do you have? Do you prefer broader Arabic nibs or does Binder's 0.7 vanishing point nib write well too (do you have that)? Are Arabic nibs generally smooth to write with?

 

I have three: a 0.7 on a Pelikan M800 Blue o Blue, a 0.9 on a Vanishing Point nib, and this Wallstreet (the image I posted), which was essentially the size he could make it given the original nib size (probably about 0.7, hard to tell. 0.9 is definitely bigger).

 

Unfortunately, Binder no longer customizes existing nibs (like he did with my Wallstreet). I hope Mottishaw still does - I have a pen that I want to make into number 4.

 

Edit to add: I realized I didn't really answer your question. I like both the 0.9 and 0.7. Depends on how you write. The 0.9 certainly writes a pretty wide (horizonatal) line, so it depends on your preference in writing. If you write small at all, the 0.9 will make you crazy (like any fat B nib would). And yes, the Binder arabics I have are smooth.

 

I believe Mottishaw still does regrinds...was checking out his website.

 

Thanks for the comments on the nibs! I decided to order Binder's 0.7 nib for my Vanishing Point. Really looking forward to this.

 

I'll see how it works for me. Might be tempted to get more Arabic nibs later!

 

 

Do let us know how you like it!

[Recoil Rob]

While researching Arabic/Architect nibs I came across this thread.

 

Moonoceros did you ever get the Binder .7? How do you like it?

 

thanks,

Rob

[Polanova]

I`m the happy owner of a Sailor Nagahara Cross Music nib (narrow down-stroke and broad cross-stroke)

It`s my most interesting nib, but i use it only for drawing & wouldn`t necessarily recommend it for writing.

[shawndp]

I have an Arabic italic Pelikan 200 unit - I love the effect it creates.

[Recoil Rob]

I have an Arabic italic Pelikan 200 unit - I love the effect it creates.

Was that a Pelikan stock nib? If so what is the designation stamp on the nib?

 

thanks,

 

Rob

 

 

[savingbirds]

All my Esterbrook 2XXX (2556, 2668, etc.) have an Architect's shape, with narrow downstrokes and broad cross-strokes. I don't know if it is because of the wear of the untipped nib or was just the factory shape, but they write very smoothly and the line variation is quite nice.

[max dog]

Modern Montblanc EF nibs have an architect cut giving subtle arabic line variation. More noticeable on absorbent papers. It's my favourite nib these days.

[aderoy]

I have one Faber Castell Guilloche Resin EF nib that is this way. Of course the Classic does not share the same feature.

 

May have been luck of the draw.

[shawndp]

Was that a Pelikan stock nib? If so what is the designation stamp on the nib?

 

thanks,

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

Not a Stock nib - it is marked BB. I bought an non-modified BB from the same person - he had around 10 of the Arabic Italic's so they were not a custom affair.

[Recoil Rob]

I'm confused, if it's not a stock Pelikan and it's an Arabic but marked BB, someone must have customized them, no?

[TwilightFury]

I used to have Stypen fashion fountain pens back in the 80's that had the coolest nibs for my block handwriting, and I never knew what made them different until now. They were Architect shape. I'm really happy that I've figured it out because they don't make the ones I used anymore, but now it seems that the only way to have a pen with that nib is to have it ground by special order. Can't seem to find any that you can just order the pen with this nib already like that.

 

Anyone else have better luck?

[thesteampunkraven]

I prefer to grind my own nibs, to suit my writing style. My architect's nib has a 0.5 mm thick horizontal stroke and very thin vertical stroke. I use 150 grit and then 1200 grit sandpaper. First, grind the tip, making figure eights until you have a flat surface on the tipping. You will need to hold it like you are writing. Then, angle the nib onto the sandpaper and make a point on the sides of the nib. Then, smooth and your done.