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INK : DIAMINE SUNSET

 

PAPER : RHODIA #16 A5 white lined

 

PEN : Onoto Magna 261 Medium nib tweaked for wet flow by John Sorowka (Oxonian).

 

Scanner : IT8-calibrated Epson V600 flatbed

Colour Space : Adobe RGB

Matte : 50% grey and 100% white

Post-process : Unsharp Mask

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunset.jpg

 

 

Here is a close-up of the swab. There is no metallic sheen to this ink and the swab shows it is a redder version of Diamine Pumpkin. I feel this ink has more potential for use than Pumpkin which I suspect may be relegated to Halloween or Party Time. Sunset has a touch more red and will probably find use where a bright, fun ink is needed but should not feel tied to one specific holiday...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetSwab.jpg

 

 

And a close-up of the shading. This ink is an excellent candidate for shading...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetShade.jpg

 

 

As expected, this ink is in NO way water resistant but then Diamine never said it was...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetWater.jpg

 

 

DRYING TIMES : The writing tests above were done in a very wet medium nib that had just been cleaned. Drying times were longer than expected... Xerox 90gsm was around 15s. Rhodia, G Lalo Vergé and Clairefontaine Triomphe took a good 45s to dry. Wet downstrokes took longer.

 

SMEARING : None on any paper. This ink bonds nicely with the paper and noes not sit on top, even on Clairefontaine Triomphe. A careless wipe with a damp finger, however, will result in the colour moving.

 

BLEEDTHROUGH : This ink showed less tendency to bleed through on copy paper than Diamine Matador or Wild Strawberry. Given the wet nib I used above, I recorded the following... Xerox 90gsm had moderate bleedthrough and low to moderate feathering. Rhodia had no bleed through and no feathering. Clairefontaine Triomphe had no bleed through or feathering. G Lalo Vergé had no bleed through or feathering.

 

FLOW AND LUBRICATION : Flow for this ink seems to be high. I suspect even a dry fine nib will put down a good line. The ink seems "wet" and is not reluctant to penetrate the paper. Lubrication was excellent in the pen tested (my medium above). The writing experience was very enjoyable.

 

CLEANING : There were no colour residues left on the converter and this ink washed out nicely. It did not cling to the pen insides and a simple fairy/water then rinse was all it took to get the pen clean. I found a few gaps in the converter that some red had crept into but it soon got the idea who was boss. Easy to clean.

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I have done a quick comparison with the Diamine Pumpkin in the Comparisons forum... this one shades from orange to red whereas Pumpkin goes from yellow/orange to red.

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Thanks very much for the review - super close-ups.

 

My Orange Safari has drunk only Diamine Orange ... and Sunset looks like an interesting alternative.

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I have been drawn towards colors of late and like the color combo ... Thanks for your review ...

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another outstanding color from diamine, thanks for the review :thumbup:

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What a great color! It reminds me of Noodler's Habanero.

Currently using:Too many pens inked to list, I must cut back! :) I can guarantee there are flighters, urushi, and/or Sheaffer Vac-fillers in the mix!!!

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very nice, could be alternative to iro yukake?

Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing

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  On 5/26/2012 at 1:42 PM, Amandaa said:

Oooo. Oranges are my favorite. Haven't tried this one yet.

 

I have just inked up with Diamine Peach Haze... if you like oranges, it will be worth adding to the sample basket.

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  On 5/26/2012 at 12:35 PM, DanielCoffey said:
I feel this ink has more potential for use than Pumpkin which I suspect may be relegated to Halloween or Party Time. Sunset has a touch more red and will probably find use where a bright, fun ink is needed but should not feel tied to one specific holiday...

As an owner of a bottle of Diamine Pumpkin, I can say that you hit the nail on the head with this assessment. I love Pumpkin, but I haven't filled a pen with it since last Autumn. However, the shading in Sunset would seem to lend itself to more regular use.

 

Thanks for another excellent review, Daniel!

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  On 6/3/2012 at 2:35 PM, leod said:

very nice, could be alternative to iro yukake?

 

I'd say that the nearest Iroshizuku ink to this colour would be Fuyu-Gaki - winter persimmon. Also an orange on the border of red. Yu-yake is more orange.

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Sunset is a lovely colour, an intense (but not dayglo) orange, but the ink itself is problematic in the pen I have filled with it. (It's a cheap one, ppossibly Japanese in origin, nothing distinguished at all, and it doesn't even have any branding on it. But It's worked happily with blue ink in cheap "international" cartridges up till now.) But I cleaned it out and, using a converter, filled it with DS.

 

There are 2 problems (though maybe the second one is more of an oddity than a problem).

 

First, everything was fine at first, but when I came to use after a gap of a few days (during which the pen had been standing upright in a pencil case) I noticed that there was a crust of dried ink around the nib. I actually found that very surprising. As I say, the pen is cheap, and the top may not be airtight, but the crust really was quite thick - more than a millimetre.

 

Second, the ink in the converter gives the appearance of being very syrupy, sticking to the sides of the converter, rather than flowing freely.

 

I haven't experienced this kind of behaviour with any of my other inks (currently about 30) or pens (~40). Does anybody have any advice, or perhaps a suggestion for a similarly intense orange that I might try? (I have also got Noodler's Apache Sunset, but it takes a long time to dry and often feathers on some of the papers I use, as well as being slightly more yellow than I'm looking for.)

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What I find with this ink is that it is very dry - have used it in a MB 146 medium nib which is quite wet normally, not with this ink though, and a Pilot VP medium nib, also normally on the wet side, same behavior.

It is imho the driest ink I have ever used.

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  On 5/26/2012 at 12:35 PM, DanielCoffey said:

INK : DIAMINE SUNSET

 

PAPER : RHODIA #16 A5 white lined

 

PEN : Onoto Magna 261 Medium nib tweaked for wet flow by John Sorowka (Oxonian).

 

Scanner : IT8-calibrated Epson V600 flatbed

Colour Space : Adobe RGB

Matte : 50% grey and 100% white

Post-process : Unsharp Mask

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunset.jpg

 

 

Here is a close-up of the swab. There is no metallic sheen to this ink and the swab shows it is a redder version of Diamine Pumpkin. I feel this ink has more potential for use than Pumpkin which I suspect may be relegated to Halloween or Party Time. Sunset has a touch more red and will probably find use where a bright, fun ink is needed but should not feel tied to one specific holiday...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetSwab.jpg

 

 

And a close-up of the shading. This ink is an excellent candidate for shading...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetShade.jpg

 

 

As expected, this ink is in NO way water resistant but then Diamine never said it was...

 

http://www.dcoffey.co.uk/images/fountainpennetwork/ReviewSunsetWater.jpg

 

 

DRYING TIMES : The writing tests above were done in a very wet medium nib that had just been cleaned. Drying times were longer than expected... Xerox 90gsm was around 15s. Rhodia, G Lalo Vergé and Clairefontaine Triomphe took a good 45s to dry. Wet downstrokes took longer.

 

SMEARING : None on any paper. This ink bonds nicely with the paper and noes not sit on top, even on Clairefontaine Triomphe. A careless wipe with a damp finger, however, will result in the colour moving.

 

BLEEDTHROUGH : This ink showed less tendency to bleed through on copy paper than Diamine Matador or Wild Strawberry. Given the wet nib I used above, I recorded the following... Xerox 90gsm had moderate bleedthrough and low to moderate feathering. Rhodia had no bleed through and no feathering. Clairefontaine Triomphe had no bleed through or feathering. G Lalo Vergé had no bleed through or feathering.

 

FLOW AND LUBRICATION : Flow for this ink seems to be high. I suspect even a dry fine nib will put down a good line. The ink seems "wet" and is not reluctant to penetrate the paper. Lubrication was excellent in the pen tested (my medium above). The writing experience was very enjoyable.

 

CLEANING : There were no colour residues left on the converter and this ink washed out nicely. It did not cling to the pen insides and a simple fairy/water then rinse was all it took to get the pen clean. I found a few gaps in the converter that some red had crept into but it soon got the idea who was boss. Easy to clean.

love ur review....

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  On 6/9/2012 at 9:09 PM, PaulT00 said:

I'd say that the nearest Iroshizuku ink to this colour would be Fuyu-Gaki - winter persimmon. Also an orange on the border of red. Yu-yake is more orange.

 

That's what it reminded me of - Fuyu Gaki.

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  • 3 years later...

I bought Sunset because I wanted a redder orange than Pumpkin. However, I found it almost too red. Perhaps it has to do with my wet pens. I mixed it with some Pumpkin and Apache Sunset to tone it down and got a lovely mandarin colour.

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This is certainly another great ink from diamine, love having it inked up in my broader nibs to show off some of that shading.

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