Sunny Experiments - # 4 - Need Help

[DanielCoffey]

And us poor brits have to make do with wooden garden sheds!

[Laura N]

I'm also completely sidetracked by the caboose. So my contribution could only be an ink green with envy.

 

Sadly, I live in one of those controlling suburbs where they don't let you do anything. You need the village's permission to put up a swing set or a treehouse. Even to cut down a tree. A caboose would never get by them.

[Ad_Astra]

Sadly, I live in one of those controlling suburbs where they don't let you do anything. You need the village's permission to put up a swing set or a treehouse. Even to cut down a tree. A caboose would never get by them.

 

Me too! Everything from the height of your lawn to any large-scale landscaping changes to the color of your doors/shutters has to be approved. Want to put up any sort of large structure (swingset anyone?) in the backyard? The HoA requires you to get a permit. Trash cans? Must be stored (and not along the sides or back of the house) within 24 hours of trash/recycling pickup or you'll get a nice warning letter, followed by a fine.

 

All this in the name of maintaining property values, which, even here on the north side of Atlanta, have taken a bath anyways. :bonk:

 

A caboose would be incredible! So glad our testing can be done in style. :clap1:

 

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Edited May 22, 2012 by Ad_Astra

[lapis]

Let's say that you don't have a garage (which is very unlikely) but if I visited you, could I sleep in your caboose?

 

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/peli46/Kiss.png

[amberleadavis]

And LagNut has agreed to become Chairman of the Peoples Committee on Paper

[amberleadavis]

Caboose Type Thoughts

 

Oh the story is even better than just owning a caboose, we had to hire a very large crane to lift everything over top of the house. First the tracks, then trucks (wheels) and finally the caboose. Then, we had to move the caboose along the tracks to made sure that it was exactly 10 feet from each boundary as required by the city. I hate HOAs and don't know how you all manage to live with them.

[amberleadavis]

Let's say that you don't have a garage (which is very unlikely) but if I visited you, could I sleep in your caboose?

 

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/peli46/Kiss.png

 

Well, 'um how is your wife going to feel about that? Let's just check you in to a nice hotel.

(and no garage)

 

 

[amberleadavis]

I'm completely psychologically sidetracked by imagining having a caboose that looks like that bright yellow model in the back yard. My wife would never allow it, but it has now become a secret fantasy world since I have always loved everything about trains. For me that's at least 1,000 times cooler than an ink experiment--but that's just me, everyone else should just ignore my rantings and pay attention to the ink tests.

 

That's the great thing about stationary trains - you can't really get "sidetracked" - completely "derailed" maybe.

 

So, you might ask why my caboose is red (a very special red) when Union Pacific Cabooses are yellow. ... It's all because of Sam

 

Sam Salde was the interim owner of the caboose (and the caboose is now named "Salde's Folly"). Sam owned a nightclub behind the Mirage hotel here in town. He put the caboose in front of his nightclub blocking 10+ parking spots. Sam wanted to restore the caboose and make it into a private car. He started by stripping off the paint. Turns out that taking the paint off a lead box is a little more difficult and time consuming than Sam at first thought. So, Sam has a team start to sand off the paint. Much to Sam's surprise, the caboose isn't just heavy, my caboose is made of lead. Lead is soft. Hence, sanding pits the lead. But Sam had already started so he was determined to finish. So Sam had a team torch the paint and scrape it off. (I'm thinking the Mirage was unhappy with this activity. The Mirage kept making offers to buy Sam's nightclub and Sam once joked that the caboose was such an irritant to Steve Wynn, that the price for the nightclub kept going up). Finally, the day comes to paint the caboose. Whatever pain they used didn't work. (I don't know why) So, that paint was also "torched" and by the time Sam was done several paint companies came out to the night club and finally, Salde's Folly was painted with red weather balloon paint.

[amberleadavis]

And us poor brits have to make do with wooden garden sheds!

 

As long as I'm derailing the group, I guess I should tell you that when the railroads sold the cabooses, most cabooses left North America. Other countries bought the cabooses for around $5k each, filled them with stuff and used them as a cargo containers, put them on new trucks and use them again as a cabooses. So wild North American Cabooses are now extinct. With only a few remaining in suburban captivity (like Amber's back yard).

[amberleadavis]

I keep asking myself -- among many other things -- how you managed to get that thing imported/exported. By plane, bus, helicopter, or is there a set of rails coincidentally going through your back yard?

 

Huh?

 

You put it on rail road tracks. (That link is for the Amber Trail - No relation).

 

http://overlandtrail.com/amber_trail.jpg

 

Edited May 23, 2012 by amberleadavis

[nicholasyeo]

I am absolutely confounded about the word "Cabooses" but I just checked it out.

Anyway, what inks are you guys interested in from Singapore? I do have some of

my own, but others probably need to be bought like the Noodler's Ink. I have

not a single bottle of those (strangely) after all this time... HAHA!

[Ad_Astra]

I am absolutely confounded about the word "Cabooses" but I just checked it out.

Anyway, what inks are you guys interested in from Singapore? I do have some of

my own, but others probably need to be bought like the Noodler's Ink. I have

not a single bottle of those (strangely) after all this time... HAHA!

 

Are there any really cool region-specific inks that you like? Those are always nice, because the rest of us might know what, say, Parker Quink looks like, but not have the faintest idea how any of the Hero inks perform when fade/water-tested.

[tnmike1]

I would think one variant of this experience is amount of atmospheric variables; Nevada New Mexico, Arizonz, etc has entirely different atmospheric conditions than Maine or Wisconsin or even the subtropics of FLorida and Alabama or the Gulf Coast. Don't know how these variables would affect your fading experiment.

 

Good luck with it, though.

 

My son living in Santa Fe got hold of a Union Pacific observation car and a pullman attached and turned them into a bar/small nightclub. Lasted a few years until the little railroad took them back as they build a commuter line from Albuquerque to Santa Fe. Good fun and lotsa history in these old train cars

[reval]

Just mailed my contribution (a page with Akkerman inks and a page with Pharmacist's inks) to Amberleadavis.

What will be left of those inks after a few months of sunshine? Will there be surprises?

 

Looking forward to this great ink experiment.

[ticoun]

A 1952 Union Pacific Caboose --- I'm going to put the pages in the windows for the whole summer.

 

Gotta see pix of that! It's just abandoned?

 

Nah. I'm just weird.

 

Decades ago Union Pacific was selling off all the cabooses. Modern technology made cabooses obsolete. So, my dad and I bought several and resold them. We bought this one for $5k, sold it for $10k and bought it back for $20k then spent another $10k to move it. Before you think that's a bad investment the guy I sold it to spent about $70k remodeling it. He added windows, wired it for electricity and phones, put in airconditioning, oak wainscoting and silk brocade wall coverings. It is amazing. I used it as my office for many years. Now it is the back storage room. I'll upload a picture soon. I can't get a good distance shot because I live in a track house and the caboose takes up most of the yard, but it still gets lots of sun.

 

The fact that you have a U.P. caboose in your back yard is perhaps the coolest thing I have read on this entire forum!!!

+42!

[colrehogan]

I am getting ready to do another Goulet ink order (like I need more ink!) Do you need a list of inks?

 

After I wrote the above earlier, I actually gathered my inks together. I did place an order with Goulet today as well.

 

I will be using Circa Rhodia paper and will see how many inks of mine I can do. I don't have a range of pale colors. I have a lot of blacks, grays, blues, a couple of blue/blacks, some purples, a few browns, a few reds, a couple of oranges and a few greens. Geez!!! Just writing this list makes it seem ridiculous!!!

 

Is it ok if I use a dip pen to do writing examples? For one, I can learn to use mine and it will save me a lot of clean out of pens in the meantime.

Edited May 27, 2012 by colrehogan

[nicholasyeo]

I am absolutely confounded about the word "Cabooses" but I just checked it out.

Anyway, what inks are you guys interested in from Singapore? I do have some of

my own, but others probably need to be bought like the Noodler's Ink. I have

not a single bottle of those (strangely) after all this time... HAHA!

 

Are there any really cool region-specific inks that you like? Those are always nice, because the rest of us might know what, say, Parker Quink looks like, but not have the faintest idea how any of the Hero inks perform when fade/water-tested.

 

I'm going to do some research. I think I remember Private Reserve and Noodler's having some Singapore inks.

However, it's not so easy to find. Gimme some time! I was just involved covering a historic by-election for

the media here. The opposition won....

[Ad_Astra]

 

Is it ok if I use a dip pen to do writing examples? For one, I can learn to use mine and it will save me a lot of clean out of pens in the meantime.

 

The most important part of this experiment will be the inks and papers used. The nibs are very much a minor part of the whole affair. Strictly speaking, it'd fade the same way even if you chose to fingerpaint the inks onto the paper.

 

Yeah, there might be more ink laid down by certain nibs versus finer lines from others, but that's not a huge deal.

[amberleadavis]

I am getting ready to do another Goulet ink order (like I need more ink!) Do you need a list of inks?

 

After I wrote the above earlier, I actually gathered my inks together. I did place an order with Goulet today as well.

 

I will be using Circa Rhodia paper and will see how many inks of mine I can do. I don't have a range of pale colors. I have a lot of blacks, grays, blues, a couple of blue/blacks, some purples, a few browns, a few reds, a couple of oranges and a few greens. Geez!!! Just writing this list makes it seem ridiculous!!!

 

Is it ok if I use a dip pen to do writing examples? For one, I can learn to use mine and it will save me a lot of clean out of pens in the meantime.

 

I did mine with dip pens because I couldn't handle the cleaning myself.

 

GeoDuc has convinced me of the wonders of samples. Now, I don't have to generally buy the whole bottle to find out if I'm going to like the ink.

[amberleadavis]

This is the paper I used on my samples.

Wausau Bright White White Card Stock - 8 1/2 x 11 in 65 lb Cover Smooth 250 per Package

 

 

Paper Specifications

 

 

Basis Weight G/M2 Caliper PPI Brightness

65 lb Cover 176 8.6 232 96

 

 

 

G/M2 = Grams per square meter

Caliper = Thickness i.e. 1.0 = .001"

PPI = Pages Per Inch

Brightness = Whiteness value

 

Paperator™ Color Value System

 

We (PaperMillStore.com) have measured these papers with a Spectrometer to establish the closest CMYK and RGB colors to this paper. You can enter these color values into your graphics programs to reproduce these paper colors on screen or by printing them with your inkjet or color laser printer. Remember these color values are not exact and should not be used for proofing and only provide an indication of the paper's color for mock-ups and presentations. Best used in conjunction with paper samples and may require some color adjustment and calibration to your equipment. The measurements we took are as follows.

• CMYK
  • C = 10
  • M = 3
  • Y = 2
  • K = 2

  [*]sRGB

  • R = 232
  • G = 232
  • B = 231