Bashing My New Ink

[SmoutKa]

I am aware of the fact that ink-bashing is prohibited. But I just received a bottle that brings me everything I don't want.

 

My trusted and beloved Penman Ruby runs out. Have one filling left. So I looked for an alternative, and thought De Atramentis 'Die Eifel' would do.

 

Color: plain bright red. I hoped for a bourgony-like red, but is is the red of my no-name correction ballpoints. In the bottle, it has a milky effect, which is nice.

Flow: On the edge between flow and rain. I actually had a line of ink rolling away on paper, when I moved the paper to quickly!

Feathering: This ink is so very enormously wet, feathering is all over the place.

Smell: Well, this is it's USP: it is lavished with the true smell of a lava eruption. I am afraid that was a detail I missed out on, when ordering the ink. I live in a land of clay and mud, so I can't confirm the claim. But I have no doubt at all that an eruption of lava smells exactly like this. That leaves one question to the potential buyer. Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

 

O, did I mention feathering?

[Bhavna]

SmoutKa, I am so sorry about the PPR. Have you considered Diamine Syrah? I have been looking for a ruby-esque one for a while and Syrah is quite lovely. It behaves well and is a striking burgundy. I want to try it with a hint of Diamine Onyx Black to get a richer, more velvety finish. As for the Die Eiffel, what other paper/ pen combinations have you/ are you prepared to try? We all get a dud now and again... I felt like this with the hallowed Aurora black. So you are not alone, I promise!

[blopplop]

Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

 

 

Maybe that aroma would appeal to the person who says, "Ah, nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning."

 

Dave

[kwpalzang]

Is that a piece of papyrus?? O_o Cool!

[Flake]

...what does a volcano smell like? I don't know that anyone would want ink that reeked of sulfur....

[watch_art]

FPN ink by Noodlers - Tulipe Noir might be what you're looking for.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/212395-fpn-dumas-tulipe-noire/

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/194088-dumas-tulipe-noire-by-noodlers-ink/

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/45321-fpn-tulipe-noire-its-here/

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It might be hard to find though, until our store is opened up.

Edited May 11, 2012 by watch_art

[Jimmy James]

Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

 

 

Maybe that aroma would appeal to the person who says, "Ah, nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning."

 

Dave

Smells like... victory.

[The Good Captain]

Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

 

 

Maybe that aroma would appeal to the person who says, "Ah, nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning."

 

Dave

Smells like... victory.

A bit like a freshly-fired Ely 1oz No 6. In the rain. With just a hint of pipe tobacco. And Methi Gosht on yesterday's shirt.

Or something like that.

 

 

[KCat]

It's perfectly okay not to like the qualities of a particular ink and to say as much. Someone with a dry-writing pen might like to know that this ink has such flow and will be interested in it in the future.

 

I do wonder about the smell. A sulfur smell, if that's what you're smelling, is often associated with bacteria.

 

You might want to look at swabs on The Writing Desk and/or Goulet Pens websites and then follow that up with looking at reviews in Ink Reviews and scans and comparisons here on FPN. That may narrow things down for you to something more like what you're looking for and for something that behaves the way you like. I never used Ruby so I don't know the shade and therefore can't make any recommendations on what might be similar.

[krz]

It looks like a nice shade of merthiolate.

[The Good Captain]

I've a few words written in an old notebook, with the Ruby. It looks like Diamine Syrah could be an option. I've since sold the Ruby and haven't opened the Syrah bottle yet as it's not one I'd use at all now, but my wife will. So at the moment I can't confirm the similarity or not.

[SmoutKa]

About the color: My daughter (13) suggested mixing in some blue black. Well, the FP I used in the review had not been cleaned properly. So this morning the blue black has mixed in. And the color is really close to Penman Ruby!

About the paper: My first attempts were on papyrus (yes, phr4nk, the real deal!). Not a very fair start, since it hardly absorbs anything at all, and is more than prone to feathering. But that's why I included a second example on the back of a plain jane business envelope. Feathering galore! What's more, I also used Penman Ruby and Quink Black on the papyrus. Each has only one or two large 'feathers' where the structure of the papyrus is very capillary.

The pen: Okay, this Sheaffer inlaid is a project of mine. An understatement would be 'the tines should be realigned'. But filled with blue black it performs reasonably well, albeit scratchier and broader then the medium Sheaffer had in mind. And I did another test, using a dip-pen ('kroontjes-pen' in Dutch). It had the same issues: Too wet, too broad, too feathery. And too smelly, but I can't blame the product for that.

 

The smell: I never smelled a vulcano in action. But if it is anything like this, one understands the association with devil and hell. But no, it is not particularly sulfory. Flake, please don't have me describe this fume .

We were discussing the other day: Who might want to use this?

My daughter and I came up with a scenario. Since the red is really bright (Merthiolate ), it could well be used to correct schooltests. Add the disgusting smell, and the pupil will make sure that the teacher has nothing to comment, correct or underline.

[lapis]

... Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

Are there vulcanos on other planets?

[Ad_Astra]

... Why on earth would one want the smell of a smoking vulcano in pen and on paper???

Are there vulcanos on other planets?

 

I'm sure there's a Trek fan out there who could educate us as to the presence of 'vulcanos' on Vulcan, but if we're talking 'volcanoes', then yeah, there are.

[Uncle Red]

I think a drier pen is in order for testing this ink, a dip pen is wet. Maybe something with a fine nib will let you use it up for error correction for your students.

Look at Diamine Oxblood for a darker red with nice shading.

[Margana]

A substitute for Penman Ruby has been a goal of mine for years. It is a very unique color so I sent a sample to Phil at Diamine several years ago hoping for a worthy successor. No follow-through from him with me so I have no data on whether any of the line's newer inks was intended to pay homage to Ruby. Diamine Syrah looks a bit darker and more saturated but that could be my monitor. Ruby shades very well with the right nib so an ink would have to match that characteristic as well. That really makes a close match challenging to achieve but not impossible. I hope Syrah is the one.

[79spitfire]

Having been around a volcano before I can honestly say I wouldn't want my ink smelling like that!

 

Anyway, uh Nice pen! Good luck on your search for your ink. All I can suggest is ink samples to your rescue!

[SmoutKa]

A substitute for Penman Ruby has been a goal of mine for years. It is a very unique color so I sent a sample to Phil at Diamine several years ago hoping for a worthy successor. No follow-through from him with me so I have no data on whether any of the line's newer inks was intended to pay homage to Ruby. Diamine Syrah looks a bit darker and more saturated but that could be my monitor. Ruby shades very well with the right nib so an ink would have to match that characteristic as well. That really makes a close match challenging to achieve but not impossible. I hope Syrah is the one.

 

That sounds like a little diluting could do the trick!

[Bill Wood]

Well now we have another "tanzanite" on our hands. The repair man's favorite. Not a bash, just a good review.

[SmoutKa]

-- Update --

I discovered three aspects of the ink - not entirely strange, given the results above, but anywayz:

1) Bleedthrough is really high, as one might suspect. But not when writing on the papyrus I used above - so I forgot to mention.

2) It taught me a lesson in pen hygiene. I will surely remember to clean out the cap just as thoroughly as the rest of the pen. When I changed the ink, I flushed and cleaned the pen - but not the cap. Now my black-inked pen, and even it's writing, has a powerfull arome.

 

Of a different order is

3) I have a needle-fine Sheaffer Balance lever-filler waiting for a new sack, and dipped it. That works pretty good, though a bit more lubrication is desirable. No feathering, no bleedthrough, not soaking wet. Just a nice fine line.

I don't know much about this pen yet, but suspect it to be a dry writer at the moment. If that holds true, UncleRed is right suggesting a dry fine writer for it.