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Delighted with a new find: a vintage Waterman 52, black rubber, chased, with a decorative gold ring. The nib is delightfully flexible and the look of the pen is really dramatic, isn't it?

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I took my notes in class with my M200 with Warranted Music nib today. The ink is Diamine Soft Mint. I feel like I'm finally getting a hang of the nib. I really like how this looks.

 

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I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man.

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Halloween HJB; About the flex pen.. How much ?

Puedes decirlo ?

Wow!!! What type of nib are you using to produce those characters! They look incredible - like a smaller stub with flex, but the up strokes look ef!!

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Halloween HJB; About the flex pen.. How much ?

Puedes decirlo ?

 

Seems to go from fine to broad (double broad?) with just a little pressure. This is my third vintage Waterman, and the flex is great in all three! Or did you mean how much did it cost? I found it on eBay --the gold ring around the barrel really caught my eye!-- , and ended up paying around $140 for it.

 

As for the writing, it's a combination of having practiced a little Spencerian script, along with the kind of nib that that writing was made for.

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Wow!!! What type of nib are you using to produce those characters! They look incredible - like a smaller stub with flex, but the up strokes look ef!!

 

Exactly! As far as I know, it's a vintage #2 Waterman nib. A bit of pressure on the down strokes and you get a broad line, and no pressure on the up strokes, and they come out EF. It's like a whole new world!

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Halloween HJB; About the flex pen.. How much ?

Puedes decirlo ?

What color blue is that? It's quite stunning.
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Exactly! As far as I know, it's a vintage #2 Waterman nib. A bit of pressure on the down strokes and you get a broad line, and no pressure on the up strokes, and they come out EF. It's like a whole new world!

It's just an ef with good flex?

 

It seems like there are stub characteristics in most of horizontal strokes as they transition from vertical. Notice the later lower half of the "t" in "Beautiful".

 

If I had to guess with my rookie knowledge I would say that nib is an Extra Fine Left Oblique with good flex??

 

It's extremely cool. One of my very favorite styles that I've seen.

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Forget about the pen-it's just cheap-o calligraphy set, but heeey my first Noodler's Ink!!! Beloved Apache Sunset :)

 

The shading you are getting is intense. I have my Apache Sunset in a Serwex flex and it looks good, but it doesn't quite get that amount of shading.

 

Tonight I put Apache Sunset in my Gama Hawk with Goulet 1.5 stub and I get nearly zero shading. The ink just looks like a slightly burnt orange!!! Aaaaargh! What would make this FP not produce shading? I notice my cheapo Manuscript with it's calligraphy BB nib produces a lot of shading.

So why doesn't my Gama Hawk 1.5 Goulet not shade at all? Is there something I can adjust? Is shading the by product of a dry nib and feed?

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Eventually an 11"x17" version will be inked.

 

 

Finalist, been meaning to say - you are an amazing artist. I love your use of color.

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Delighted with a new find: a vintage Waterman 52, black rubber, chased, with a decorative gold ring. The nib is delightfully flexible and the look of the pen is really dramatic, isn't it?

 

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Hi Hollydonut, this is my very favourite green and possibly colour! It is Diamine Meadow. I love the colour and the shading you get with it.

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Hi Hollydonut, this is my very favourite green and possibly colour! It is Diamine Meadow. I love the colour and the shading you get with it.

 

+1 for Diamine Meadow!

How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

 

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Finalist, been meaning to say - you are an amazing artist. I love your use of color.

Thanks!

 

I get a kick out of his drawing because the colors in the setting sun were produced with Apache Sunset.

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The shading you are getting is intense. I have my Apache Sunset in a Serwex flex and it looks good, but it doesn't quite get that amount of shading.

 

Tonight I put Apache Sunset in my Gama Hawk with Goulet 1.5 stub and I get nearly zero shading. The ink just looks like a slightly burnt orange!!! Aaaaargh! What would make this FP not produce shading? I notice my cheapo Manuscript with it's calligraphy BB nib produces a lot of shading.

So why doesn't my Gama Hawk 1.5 Goulet not shade at all? Is there something I can adjust? Is shading the by product of a dry nib and feed?

 

Hi Finalist: I have noticed that shading is dependent most on the paper I use --really smooth, well-made paper (Clairefontaine and Miguel Rius --European brands!) absorb the ink slower, and let it pool before drying. So with a flexible nib and good paper, you should be able to see much more shading. That seems to be the trick, at least, for me.

 

Try it out and see if it works for you!

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What color blue is that? It's quite stunning.

 

It's called "Blue Suede" made by Private Reserve. It's my favorite teal color --halfway between blue and green. With some pens it looks more blue, and with pens, more green.

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Callique, your writing is amazingly beautiful. I wish I could get the kind of consistency and evenness that you get!

 

And like your 52-1/2, the nib on mine is just a little bit scratchy as well. It's fascinating how each pen and each nib are so individual, right?

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Hi Finalist: I have noticed that shading is dependent most on the paper I use --really smooth, well-made paper (Clairefontaine and Miguel Rius --European brands!) absorb the ink slower, and let it pool before drying. So with a flexible nib and good paper, you should be able to see much more shading. That seems to be the trick, at least, for me.

 

Try it out and see if it works for you!

Thanks. I get great shading with flex nibs on most papers, but this specific stub just won't shade on anything. Diamine Marine looks dark green and Apache Sunset looks burnt orange. Those two inks in a cheap Manuscript with BB calligraphy nib shade extremely well. I think this somehow involves the feed and nib design more than paper.

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Seems to go from fine to broad (double broad?) with just a little pressure. This is my third vintage Waterman, and the flex is great in all three! Or did you mean how much did it cost? I found it on eBay --the gold ring around the barrel really caught my eye!-- , and ended up paying around $140 for it.

 

As for the writing, it's a combination of having practiced a little Spencerian script, along with the kind of nib that that writing was made for.

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I meant the pressure but thanks for the other information, now I know it could be in my future once I save a bit and discard a few oldies. I asked because I have a Namiki Falcon and it is very difficult to flex even a bit - I know it is not a full flex, just a springy one- and I cannot get the hang of it, so I think it will just be a fine nib through-through unless I spend money on it which I can't do.

 

What would you say is the trick of pressure? How to apply it and let go best trick? How to hold the pen? I have heard of having the slit at the same angle of teh letters> Cannot get this idea in my mind. And then, where to find a sample of Spencerian or better, book with exercises?

 

Hope I am not asking too many questions, FPNer!

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