Chelpark Permanent Blue-Black

[pbhat]

Hi! Hari,

The ink bottle is exactly what you have in the photo stamped 09/08 purchased from stationer near flora fountain with address as shown in the picture. It is also if I remember is manufactured around the same time as yours more then a year old at the point of purchase. May be it is batch issue/ quality issue/ or the stationer has not stored it well.

May be the ink produced 20 years back may be of a different quality as Bijesh's good experience is.

regards,

pbhat

[akrishna59]

sandy, i must say that you write elaborate ink reviews it is pages and pages. but you have developed it into an art which few of us can do. it is interesting to note that some people find the ink good and others not so good. as we all know inks behave differently in different pens and to a slightly lesser extent on paper and maybe that is one factor we may need to account here.

 

i have bought inks that other people recommended and the had to discard them as i found them unsatisfactory in my pens. but reviews like this go a very long way in giving us the exact nature of the ink. thank you.

 

rgds.

 

krishna.

[DanF]

Sandy --- Thanks for this review, love the shading, just may have to get a bottle or two. I wonder if "Clean-x is the same ingredient as Solv-ex in the old Parker inks? Seems likely based on their former partnership. I also wonder if Chelpark's Sapphire Blue is as water resistant as the Blue Black?

 

Dan

[Sandy1]

sandy, i must say that you write elaborate ink reviews it is pages and pages. but you have developed it into an art which few of us can do. it is interesting to note that some people find the ink good and others not so good. as we all know inks behave differently in different pens and to a slightly lesser extent on paper and maybe that is one factor we may need to account here.

 

i have bought inks that other people recommended and the had to discard them as i found them unsatisfactory in my pens. but reviews like this go a very long way in giving us the exact nature of the ink. thank you.

 

rgds.

 

krishna.

Hi krishna,

 

I am flattered that you hold my reviews in such high regard.

 

While I use a range of 'representative' pens & papers, and the ink is from one bottle or [rarely] a few same-package cartridges, the results are limited - not definitive.

 

I always consider the experience of others with a given ink to be of considerable value, no matter if the experiences are very different.

 

Perhaps it is even more important for all concerned to mention experiences that fell short of expectations and/or mention results that differ from those in the Review.

 

I hope that I am able to expand one's enjoyment of ink, which includes avoiding unrewarding purchases.

 

Bye,

Sandy1

[Sandy1]

Sandy --- Thanks for this review, love the shading, just may have to get a bottle or two. I wonder if "Clean-x is the same ingredient as Solv-ex in the old Parker inks? Seems likely based on their former partnership. I also wonder if Chelpark's Sapphire Blue is as water resistant as the Blue Black?

 

Dan

Hello Dan,

 

You're welcome!

 

I could not say that Cleen-X is the same as Parker's SOLV-X, yet many of the claimed properties are very similar indeed.

 

I have no experience with the Sapphire Blue, but as Chelpark lists it as one of their 'permanent' inks, I would expect to find a similar robust performance. That said, if the BlBk is a dye-based iteration of the discontinued I-G ink, then the standard of permanence would need to be practically equivalent to the I-G ink. I would be impressed if the Sapphire had the same robust qualities. I would not be surprised if it were somewhat less robust, perhaps some of the Blue dye may come adrift if wet, leaving a Blue-ish-Gray remnant.

 

One also should be aware of the nuance in use of the word 'permanent': At times it is used to designate inks that cannot be eradicated by products such as Pelikan's 'Pirat' and/or easily removed from skin, hair, clothing, etc. when washed. i.e. Not a 'washable' ink. (See also R&K 'Blau permanent' Comparison Exemplars LINK.)

Bye,

Sandy1

[welch]

Of course, fans of Sandy1's reviews look first st her shopping list. What is a "monster dill"?

[Sandy1]

Of course, fans of Sandy1's reviews look first st her shopping list. What is a "monster dill"?

Hi,

 

Monster dills are produced with oversize cucumbers, rain water, oak-casked vinegar, and Dead Sea salt; then packed five per gallon jar with dill, caraway, ancillary herbs and very high amounts of garlic. Experience has shown that brandishing monster dill/s in their direction will ward off Vampires.

 

MDs are often found in child-safe homes where sharp wooden stakes and/or firearms loaded with silver bullets would be unacceptable or need to be secured, hence too slow to deploy.

 

Refrigerate after opening.

 

Bye,

S1

[akrishna59]

sandy, i must say that you write elaborate ink reviews it is pages and pages. but you have developed it into an art which few of us can do. it is interesting to note that some people find the ink good and others not so good. as we all know inks behave differently in different pens and to a slightly lesser extent on paper and maybe that is one factor we may need to account here.

 

i have bought inks that other people recommended and the had to discard them as i found them unsatisfactory in my pens. but reviews like this go a very long way in giving us the exact nature of the ink. thank you.

 

rgds.

 

krishna.

Hi krishna,

 

I am flattered that you hold my reviews in such high regard.

 

While I use a range of 'representative' pens & papers, and the ink is from one bottle or [rarely] a few same-package cartridges, the results are limited - not definitive.

 

I always consider the experience of others with a given ink to be of considerable value, no matter if the experiences are very different.

 

Perhaps it is even more important for all concerned to mention experiences that fell short of expectations and/or mention results that differ from those in the Review.

 

I hope that I am able to expand one's enjoyment of ink, which includes avoiding unrewarding purchases.

 

Bye,

Sandy1

 

dear sandy,

 

chelpark is my favourite ink and usually flows good from my pens. just like cleen x of chelpark and solv x of parker, camel has camli - sol 100. camel is a well known ink in india.

 

rgds.

 

krishna.

[welch]

Could Chelpark Blue-black be similar to old Parker blue-black...before Parker shifted to a greenish base? Did Chelpark once have a connection to Parker? Cleen-X suggests Solv-X, the magical ingredient that cleans a pens as it writes (or so said the advertisements during WW2).

[DanF]

Could Chelpark Blue-black be similar to old Parker blue-black...before Parker shifted to a greenish base? Did Chelpark once have a connection to Parker? Cleen-X suggests Solv-X, the magical ingredient that cleans a pens as it writes (or so said the advertisements during WW2).

 

Watch --- Check out post #14 for a link to the Parker/Chelpark relationship.

 

Dan

 

 

 

[georges zaslavsky]

very nice blue thanks for the detailed review

[welch]

I am using ChelPark Blue-black this week in a Sonnet gold-nib broad (= Sonnet's steel-nib medium, I find).

 

Nice ink...flows well, starts OK, something like a dark-blue, rather than a deep blue-black. Since I like dark blue, this is a winner. Seems to dry fast enough on heavy Rhodia. No bleed though or see through on other papers.

 

All around pleasing ink.

 

Got mine from Fountain Pen Revolution, yes, for $5 a bottle. (Thanks, Kevin!) Beginning to think I should have ordered more CP Blue Black, rather than a sample of ChelPark and Camlin blacks, blues, and Washable Blue. The ChelPark Sapphire Blue is a bit purplish, so I might mix a little into their Blue-black...I like that slight purple hint.

[Sandy1]

very nice blue thanks for the detailed review

 

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

I am using ChelPark Blue-black this week in a Sonnet gold-nib broad (= Sonnet's steel-nib medium, I find).

 

Nice ink...flows well, starts OK, something like a dark-blue, rather than a deep blue-black. Since I like dark blue, this is a winner. Seems to dry fast enough on heavy Rhodia. No bleed though or see through on other papers.

 

All around pleasing ink.

 

Got mine from Fountain Pen Revolution, yes, for $5 a bottle. (Thanks, Kevin!) Beginning to think I should have ordered more CP Blue Black, rather than a sample of ChelPark and Camlin blacks, blues, and Washable Blue. The ChelPark Sapphire Blue is a bit purplish, so I might mix a little into their Blue-black...I like that slight purple hint.

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for letting us know your experience with this ink!

 

This is definitely not a dark ink, and its interesting that you consider it to be more of a Blue. But does your ink resemble the ink shown here? Or do you think there's some variation that is beyond that caused by pen / paper?

 

Could you post some samples of the other Chelpark inks? Perhaps in the ICS&T SubForum so they can be indexed & searchable.

 

Interesting that you're thinking of adding a bit of Sapphire to this ink - I mentioned it has a bit of a 'Royal Blue' aspect to its colour - 'Royal Blue-Black'. Hmmm.

 

Bye,

S1

[wastelanded]

Thanks for one of your gold-standard reviews of something out of the ordinary. Variety is the spice of life!

[Sandy1]

Thanks for one of your gold-standard reviews of something out of the ordinary. Variety is the spice of life!

 

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

I was really please when I received this ink as a gift, so I thought it was a good thing to share it with FPN. And now that we are aware of an online Vendor, the ink is only a few mouse clicks away - I won't need to bring some back with me on my next visit to India.

 

Bye,

S1

[drbalajipsy]

Nobody had heard about inks other than blue or black. I was able to find a green ink in a book store near a mosque though! The ink is cheap (18Rs - 0.35USD) compared to the inks available here in US.

 

I agree, even today it is not easy to find other ink colours than Blue/ Black/ Blue-Black in India. Of course lawyers used green and teachers used Red (mostly Reynolds Ball Point and not Fountain Pens).

 

How does Chelpark Blue-Black Ink treat pens other than Camlin? Parkers do well? I read someone was using it for his Duofold - that is a good Parker pen right?

Is it a safe option? Will surely require frequent cleaning I believe. With Quink I cleaned my Vectors once in three weeks.

[drbalajipsy]

Chelpark Blue-Black and Permanent Blue-Black are different?

What is the difference?

[Sandy1]

Chelpark Blue-Black and Permanent Blue-Black are different?

What is the difference?

Hi,

 

As far as I know, Chelpark makes only Permanent Blue-Black, and there is no 'washable' Chelpark Blue-Black ink. Consequently, it seems that the same ink is referred to as both: 'Chelpark Blue-Black' and 'Chelpark Permanent Blue-Black'.

 

Indeed, though the Topic name is 'Chelpark Permanent Blue-Black', I used the abbreviation 'CBlBk' rather than 'CPBlBk' in the Review.

 

I apologise for the uncertainty that resulted.

 

Bye,

S1

[drbalajipsy]

Hi,

 

As far as I know, Chelpark makes only Permanent Blue-Black, and there is no 'washable' Chelpark Blue-Black ink. Consequently, it seems that the same ink is referred to as both: 'Chelpark Blue-Black' and 'Chelpark Permanent Blue-Black'.

 

Indeed, though the Topic name is 'Chelpark Permanent Blue-Black', I used the abbreviation 'CBlBk' rather than 'CPBlBk' in the Review.

 

I apologise for the uncertainty that resulted.

 

Bye,

S1

 

Hi Sandy, I got the confusion from Hari's post where the ink cartons are shown bottom-up. It says for documents use Blue-Black and lower still it says Also available Permanent Blue-Black. But I am wary of using iron-gall inks. They can damage the paper & the pen as I hear.