Homo Sapiens Plunger Stuck

[rbadger332]

This is very strange. Although judging from the picture the nib seems to be big enough are you sure you have gotten an oversize? My original HS with bronze (and power filler ) is 13.1 cm or 5.16 inches, just barrel and nib. The midi with the piston filler is visibly smaller, including a smaller nib.

 

I just measured the pen, and it came out about 13.5 cm from the bottom of the barrel to the tip. My order also says it's for oversize, unless FPH made a mistake.

I bought one Sunday and it looks exactly like yours, it is a Midi Piston Filler. Once you screw the piston out, stick the nib and a little bit of the section in an ink bottle and screw the piston back in. It will draw ink. Hopefully, the seller will get you straight, though, before you do that.

[Rubicon]

This is very strange. Although judging from the picture the nib seems to be big enough are you sure you have gotten an oversize? My original HS with bronze (and power filler ) is 13.1 cm or 5.16 inches, just barrel and nib. The midi with the piston filler is visibly smaller, including a smaller nib.

 

I just measured the pen, and it came out about 13.5 cm from the bottom of the barrel to the tip. My order also says it's for oversize, unless FPH made a mistake.

I bought one Sunday and it looks exactly like yours, it is a Midi Piston Filler. Once you screw the piston out, stick the nib and a little bit of the section in an ink bottle and screw the piston back in. It will draw ink. Hopefully, the seller will get you straight, though, before you do that.

Wait, did you get a Midi?

[SylvainP]

I've been told that the bronze one was only made in one size and only power filler. His seems a bronze HS.

 

My bronze HS measure 13.5cm too (without the cap).

Edited March 7, 2012 by SylvainP

[SylvainP]

Forget my last comment, I was looking at the wrong picture. His seems to be a steel age but the size match my bronze version.

[rbadger332]

This is very strange. Although judging from the picture the nib seems to be big enough are you sure you have gotten an oversize? My original HS with bronze (and power filler ) is 13.1 cm or 5.16 inches, just barrel and nib. The midi with the piston filler is visibly smaller, including a smaller nib.

 

I just measured the pen, and it came out about 13.5 cm from the bottom of the barrel to the tip. My order also says it's for oversize, unless FPH made a mistake.

I bought one Sunday and it looks exactly like yours, it is a Midi Piston Filler. Once you screw the piston out, stick the nib and a little bit of the section in an ink bottle and screw the piston back in. It will draw ink. Hopefully, the seller will get you straight, though, before you do that.

Wait, did you get a Midi?

yeah mine is a Midi. But the filler end of mine looks exactly like yours does when screwed out. I read somewhere that Visconti swapped the Steel Age Pens out of the Power Fillers and into Piston Fillers for the both Maxi and Midi sizes, though. So I could be wrong. But yours IS a piston-fill.

[leod]

you got new information there, so the filling system also evolved from power to piston. waiting for new owners will chime in

[eric47]

you got new information there, so the filling system also evolved from power to piston. waiting for new owners will chime in

 

Interesting, I didn't know there were two sizes. A quick check and Farhney's says piston for the Midi, plunger/power for the Maxi:

 

http://www.fahrneyspens.com/Item--i-2201175S

[rbadger332]

I might be wrong, as I can no longer find where I originally read that. But it would make sense for the Steel Age revision, as that is what his is. He has the larger one and I have the smaller one, but we both have Piston fillers, instead of the Bronze Age version which has a Power Filler on the larger version.

[raging.dragon]

I might be wrong, as I can no longer find where I originally read that. But it would make sense for the Steel Age revision, as that is what his is. He has the larger one and I have the smaller one, but we both have Piston fillers, instead of the Bronze Age version which has a Power Filler on the larger version.

 

This particular pen was discussed somewhere in the Italian pens sub-forum, if that's where you saw it, it was just the same speculation we have going on here.

[rbadger332]

LOL Might be it, then. Who knows then.

[fabrimedeiros]

Is HS Steel Maxi larger than the original HS in Bronze???

 

My HS in bronze is about the same size as M800.

 

In my opinion, Visconti should be clear in their booklet and box what pen is and how to fill it. This caused an unnecessarily confusion and could have damaged the pen.

[georges zaslavsky]

visconti should really improve their quality control and stop charging people so much for such finnicky and unreliable pens

[raging.dragon]

visconti should really improve their quality control and stop charging people so much for such finnicky and unreliable pens

 

The original poster's problem doesn't seem to a QC or reliability problem, rather it was confusion resulting from the pen having a different filling system than expected. Either Visconti changed the filling mechanism used in the Homo Sapiens Steel age from a power filler to a piston of some sort, or a retailer sent the original poster the wrong pen (a midi instead of the maxi).

Edited March 13, 2012 by raging.dragon

[imahawki]

What was the resolution for the OP? I just purchased an HS Oversize and today it arrived and appears to be a piston filler. I found this thread while trying to figure out what the heck was going on. The text from the ad read:

 

Title: Visconti Homo Sapiens Steel Oversized Fountain Pen

 

Description:

 

Basaltic Lava of Etna Volcano

 

High Vacuum Power Filler Filling System

 

23Kt Palladium Dreamtouch nib, medium

 

Regular Retail: $629

[Raskolnikov]

What was the resolution for the OP? I just purchased an HS Oversize and today it arrived and appears to be a piston filler. I found this thread while trying to figure out what the heck was going on. The text from the ad read:

 

Title: Visconti Homo Sapiens Steel Oversized Fountain Pen

 

Description:

 

Basaltic Lava of Etna Volcano

 

High Vacuum Power Filler Filling System

 

23Kt Palladium Dreamtouch nib, medium

 

Regular Retail: $629

 

I answered you here: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/240273-is-the-visconti-hs-steel-oversize-piston-or-power-fill/

 

I'll just add that the seller was most likely in good faith as he simply reported the generic early Homo Sapiens (bronze) factory description.

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

The first maxi steel models were power-fillers, but they are now all piston fillers. The change was mentioned here some time ago.

 

Dillon

[Bryant]

So just to clarify what a few have said. Here are the version of Homo Sapiens Fountain Pens that have been released for normal runs.

 

From Bottom to Top.

 

Bronze Maxi- Only comes in one size and with the Single Reservoir Power filling, Number 6 nib

Sterling Silver Maxi-Only came with a full calligraphy set of if you nabbed one when someone split it up, its also a Single Res Power Filler, Number 6 nib

Steel Maxi-When this first came out, the first pens were Single Reservoir power filler. But quickly were switched to "piston" (Captured Converter) So this one has a Power Filler, Number 6 nib

Steel Maxi-What you will see out in the with retailers and such now. Some may still have the old script as the this pen was originally going to be a power, but was changed. And you might find a power out there, but most will not be. They will have the "piston" and Number 6 nib

Steel Midi-Was always "piston" (Captured Converter) and a Number 4 nib

 

Sorry for the sub par pics, but it will give you an idea...

Regards,

Bry

 

 

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm78/FountainPenz/Viscontis/IMG_6519-001copy_zpsfb91cd21.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm78/FountainPenz/Viscontis/IMG_6524-001copy_zpsc689b687.jpg

[Earthdawn]

BRYANT .....

 

So.... "Steel Maxi-When this first came out, the first pens were Single Reservoir power filler. But quickly were switched to "piston" (Captured Converter) So this one has a Power Filler, Number 6 nib"

 

it does exisit just in VERY rare #'s ????

 

 

hmmmmm

 

Was there a reason they stopped making it available in the steel version?

[Bryant]

BRYANT .....

 

So.... "Steel Maxi-When this first came out, the first pens were Single Reservoir power filler. But quickly were switched to "piston" (Captured Converter) So this one has a Power Filler, Number 6 nib"

 

it does exisit just in VERY rare #'s ????

 

 

hmmmmm

 

Was there a reason they stopped making it available in the steel version?

 

It was all down to price I believe. I personally feel they should have done them both in Power. But this is just my 2 cents. Especially now the Bronze MSRP is $50 more. I think they should just raise the price on the Steel to the same as the Bronze and do both in power... But, at this point, I dont think they would do that.