Carlo Collodi

[rudyhou]

thank you for sharing. i would never have known that the pen also comes with ink that is NOT a standard ink. but judging from the color comparison, i'd still prefer the look of toffee and the 2005/2006 season'e greeting inks. i love dark brown inks.

[rudyhou]

Mike,

 

Sorry I forgot to add the pictures with the writing samples toy our ink review. I simply forgot to do it. Here are writing samples done with the Montblanc 149. I used these pictures for the Three Oversize Vintage Pens With Flex Nibs thread here in FPN. The nib in this Montblanc is a fairly wet writer. I am sure that a normal or dry nib will display different results for this great ink.

 

Writing at less than my normal writing speed with no pressure applied

 

Writing at a fast speed with no pressure applied

 

And now, multiple pictures while flexying the nib

 

 

 

 

I will try to add the writing samples with the Waterman 5 red ripple and Pink nib in a separate post.

 

that is a very nice brown ink . and great penmanship too.

[tenney]

The pen doesn't "come" with ink. The ink is sold during the time of the pen.

[lapis]

On 8/8/2012 at 6:58 AM, tenney said:

The pen doesn't "come" with ink. The ink is sold during the time of the pen.

Exactly. A new pen of that sort and "its" corresponding ink are usually issued at the same time. More often than not, the pen first, then the ink a week or two later. The bummer is, that most (if not all) MB boutiques won't sell you a bottle without the pen until about 3 months later. Allegedly so that those who buy the pen get the first chance to buy the ink too. Disclaimer No. 1: Some boutiques occasionally give you the bottle free if you buy that pen (which can run up to about $1K anyway. DIsclaimer No. 2: You can also sometimes buy the ink without the pen at a different, i.e. non-boutique store

 

Mike

[Bo Bo Olson]

I do have a lot better papers than I use to have, and I do have some real wet nibbed pens....Mauricio's sample is a dream.

 

 I wasn't impressed with this red-orangy...chestnut ink..one use...partial fill. And I still like browns.

So only 12 years later, I'll give it another shot knowing I need to use a wet nib....

And perhaps a drier 200's B or W.Germany OB, nib that is often dryer and good for shading inks.

With out Mauricio's input ... It would be heading for the Bay, where someone else would value it more then me.

 

!@#$%^ me and my big mouth...now got to find a wet pen, perhaps a maxi-semi-flex...nope...just a semi-flex OB or OB&1/2, and that gray 200.

Not today, I want ever so much to get under 30 inked pens.

A gray pen day...Checked my Geha 760, with the slightly more springy semi-flex nib (than Pelikan semi-flex**)...made by Degussa, maker of grand Osmia nibs, having taken over their nib factory for debt in 1932.

Looking at a known for sure Pelikan 400 semi-flex B, think my Geha 760 is a OOB...if not an OB 1/2. 790/780/760s swap nibs, so I took the wider nib off  one of my then 4 790's.

 

This is a medium-small pen that was so popular in the '50-60's. Mine doesn't have the gold piston cap band, from when this medium-small pen had been Geha's flagship until the thin, medium-long rolled gold trimmed 725 replaced it as flagship.  Works just as good with out the band, and hole burning money demands immediacy.

 

I pushed the reserve tank button, so have to write a page or two before the pen is empty. Because of that reserve tank, it takes three times longer to clean a Geha than a Pelikan............but then again with a Pelikan is out if ink, it's out of ink.....not so with a Geha

My planned gray Pelikan only had an OM...so is out.

Lamy X55, B nib studio. A nib that impressed the hell out of me on the Imporium. Good tine bend, but unfortunately only 2X tine spread, but, an easy tine spread. A wet nib.

Not my picture, the second Studio is my color.

 With piston and converter, first I'll take a sample, if it's like Mauricio's, then I'll top them off. If not  it goes on the some day list.

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

I got no where near Mauricio's and Rudihou's gorgeous light shading brown.

 

Luckily someone mentioned Chestnut...having never had a chestnut ink, never thought of it as that.

 

I did a name and pen scribble on 7-8 good to better papers. Geha 760 semi-flex OB vs Springy wet Z55 nibbed Studio.

The line thickening variation of the Geha 760 was to me much more attractive.

CT-90g, Kyome 70g, Neusiedler Japan Post 80g,170g Gmund, Avery Zweckform 170g, M&K 95, typewriter, now called Office, a one sided paper, Mondi, 100 & 120g, Zander's Gohorsmuhle bond.

 

I didn't have good papers back when I bought this ink.

Back then they made good 90g copy papers....been disappointed in the cheaper 90g copy papers lately.

From my memory from way back then....I got a whole lot more shading now, than then.

And thinking of it as chestnut made a difference...rather than too red, where is the brown, an orangey ink.

 

I noticed on CT,the semi-flex shaded thicker on the bottom of the word Collodi, the springy B Z55 on the top of the letters...on a whole.

 

On Avery Zweckform 170g, The Z55 nib printed & cursive, had more shading, than the 760 cursive scribble. That is a paper that  is a shading monster. Printing often does shading better than cursive....the ink has more chance to puddle.

 

170g Gmund,  both close but the semi-flex OB had more swing.

 

There was some shading on all papers, some more than others.

 

The Geha 760 semi-flex OB, had more piazzas, than the springy Lamy Z55 B nib.

And I'm glad I went wide, and wet, and the stubbed semi-flex makes my scribble much nicer.

 

I just emptied the half filled converter of my Z55 Lamy Studio back into the ink bottle.

 

The ink IMO looks better with line variation....the Lamy springy B, was ok and shaded, but just laid there LeRoy. It didn't have the swing of a stubbed semi-flex OB.

 

The good news is it does shade in wetter semi-flex.

The bad news is I could have discovered this some 12 years ago, had I better papers.

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My advice is to buy a ream or 100 sheet box of good to better papers with every three inks you buy. In no time at all you have a good selection of papers that will never go into a printer.

 

I did it all wrong, pens...just enough inks to keep them wet....and finally buying good to better papers.

It's too bad most of Sandy1's ink reviews with 5 different decent papers and 4 widths of nibs  is lost, it was often , that is the same ink????!!!!