Parker 17 Idenity Help Needed

January 14, 2012

Attached are a couple of photos concerning a pen I just received This is my 1st Parker 17

and I am not sure it is not a marriage.

The barrel is marked Parker 17 Made in England.

I went to an Internet site , the nib does not look like the one featured on those 17

It doesn't look like a 65 nib either

The Nib/filler unit is parker England and is Aerometric. The front end almost resembles a 41.

Is the cap correct, it looks like a Parker 51 Demi GF Lined , Parker 1/10 Gold Filled.

Your help is as always appreciated.

Tom Heath

January 14, 2012

Hi,

With its beak-shaped nib it does appear to be an early model 17 :

http://parkercollector.com/parker17.html

I have a late model 17 - the Lady Insignia, a truly wonderful writer.

I thought it passing strange that Parker would keep the same model number for pens whose nibs' appearance was so different.

Bye,

S1

January 14, 2012

I,m not so sure - i thought all P 17 nibs were hidden

Looks lIke a real bitzer to me, i,m afraid

I hope i,m wrong though!

Cheers, paul

January 14, 2012

The pen is Parker 17 Duofold (with open beak-shaped nib) - produced 1962-64.

The cap is not original and comes from the other model, IMHO.

Here the P17:

from left: Parker 17 Super Duofold, Parker 17 Duofold, Parker Super 17, Parker Model 17, Parker Lady 17, Parker 17 DeLuxe CT

Here the pens with caps and matching pencils and ballpens

And here the typical metal P17 caps: DeLuxe CT, DeLuxe GT and Custom (gold) - look at the cap jewels

Edited January 14, 2012 by adamon

January 14, 2012

And here let me show my P17 collection (not yet complete )

Hope will help you

January 14, 2012

Thank you all for your help

Looks like I'll be looking for a cap..

If one is available please let me know.

Tom

January 16, 2012

Goodness me, Adamon, I had never realised there were so many models/

Do you also have ones of unusual manufacturing sites? I came across a Denmark one, intending to use it for spares, but the nib didn't fit in a UK one (which was the only reason for buying it ).

Regards,

Richard.

January 17, 2012

Hi richardandtracy,

I've checked my pens and I've found 2 pens made in France only - one Model 17 (late version with black plastic ring) and Lady 17 Custom. Others are made in England.

The parts from the french pens may be other because of the metric system (?). But I've checked and for example the barrels are interchangeable - it means the threads are the same. Why the problems with nibs - no idea.

Other thing are the Lady Standard pens:

The french pens have the open nibs, when english - hooded. I believe that the open nib pens are the french P17 Lady Standard, but I'm not 100% sure.

January 17, 2012

There is much more variation than I ever expected, even in the Lady Pens.

Is the pen on the left not a Parker Lady Slimfold? I always thought the cap-barrel thread was the easiest way to differentiate the P17 & Slimfold.

Amazing.

I do like your collection. I have never actually seem an insignia in the flesh, though I have bid on a few. They seem to go for more than a P61 Insignia, which seems crackers to me given that the P61 is a better pen, however much I like the P17.

Regards,

Richard.