Jotter Pencil 0.5Mm

[adallak]

I have just received an all-brushed-stainless-steel Jotter Pencil 0.5 mm. It looks classy and durable. As for drawing/writing pleasure, it is NOT very comfortable. The metal barrel is too thin and slippery. I would rather recommend a plastic barrel. The pencil does not have a standard 4 mm sleeve for the lead. It is much shorter and thicker, which is actually good for a relatively heavy pencil (14.0g). Every time my Rotring 600 (21.7g) is dropped I have to straighten up the bent sleeve. It is not going to happen to your Jotter pencil. For comparison, a loaded Jotter ball-point pen is 11.6g.

 

The pencil clunks noticeably. I fixed it by inserting a small piece of paper into the upper part of the pencil.

Edited January 9, 2012 by adallak

[someonesdad]

That reminded me of two pencils I have in my junk drawer (see photo). I also have 5 or 6 of the old Jotter pens that seemed to grow on trees. Actually, I have one of those pens with a Parker gel cartridge that actually writes pretty well for a non-fountain pen.

[John the Monkey]

I think the Jotter is aptly named, really.

 

I'd not choose any of them for extended writing or drawing sessions, but they're slim, light, easily carried and reliable enough to grab for making quick notes &c as and when required.

[yamborghini]

  On 1/9/2012 at 10:42 AM, John the Monkey said:

I think the Jotter is aptly named, really.

 

I'd not choose any of them for extended writing or drawing sessions, but they're slim, light, easily carried and reliable enough to grab for making quick notes &c as and when required.

 

I used my jotter for my 3 hour English exam at the end of year 12 and it was fine. (come to think of it, I've used it for many long exams... ) I think they are good for long periods especially when writing furiously simply because of their lightness.

[John the Monkey]

  On 1/10/2012 at 5:10 AM, yamborghini said:

I used my jotter for my 3 hour English exam at the end of year 12 and it was fine. (come to think of it, I've used it for many long exams... ) I think they are good for long periods especially when writing furiously simply because of their lightness.

I don't get on with the thinness of the gripping area, personally - I think half an hour with a jotter is my limit.

[grandpasmurf]

  On 1/9/2012 at 4:48 AM, someonesdad said:

That reminded me of two pencils I have in my junk drawer (see photo). I also have 5 or 6 of the old Jotter pens that seemed to grow on trees. Actually, I have one of those pens with a Parker gel cartridge that actually writes pretty well for a non-fountain pen.

 

 

 

Looks like the lower one is a classic pencil (or international classic depending on era) I am puzzled by the bottom of it though, what size lead does it take?

[nxn96]

  On 1/10/2012 at 11:51 PM, grandpasmurf said:

  On 1/9/2012 at 4:48 AM, someonesdad said:

That reminded me of two pencils I have in my junk drawer (see photo). I also have 5 or 6 of the old Jotter pens that seemed to grow on trees. Actually, I have one of those pens with a Parker gel cartridge that actually writes pretty well for a non-fountain pen.

 

 

 

Looks like the lower one is a classic pencil (or international classic depending on era) I am puzzled by the bottom of it though, what size lead does it take?

I think it's a .9mm lead. In the earlier day of the series, I think that was the lead size.

[nxn96]

  On 1/10/2012 at 9:27 AM, John the Monkey said:

  On 1/10/2012 at 5:10 AM, yamborghini said:

I used my jotter for my 3 hour English exam at the end of year 12 and it was fine. (come to think of it, I've used it for many long exams... ) I think they are good for long periods especially when writing furiously simply because of their lightness.

I don't get on with the thinness of the gripping area, personally - I think half an hour with a jotter is my limit.

The "thin" issue has always been my gripe about the International/Classic series; much like that with the Cross Century line- a very thin barrel that's not comfortable in the hand for more than a line or two. A very well made pen with nice balance, but not a satisfying long-term writer.

[grandpasmurf]

  On 1/11/2012 at 6:43 PM, nxn96 said:

  On 1/10/2012 at 11:51 PM, grandpasmurf said:

  On 1/9/2012 at 4:48 AM, someonesdad said:

That reminded me of two pencils I have in my junk drawer (see photo). I also have 5 or 6 of the old Jotter pens that seemed to grow on trees. Actually, I have one of those pens with a Parker gel cartridge that actually writes pretty well for a non-fountain pen.

 

 

 

Looks like the lower one is a classic pencil (or international classic depending on era) I am puzzled by the bottom of it though, what size lead does it take?

I think it's a .9mm lead. In the earlier day of the series, I think that was the lead size.

 

I like the sound of that I know the new ones are .5mm, which is too thin for some tasks, if you would be interested in selling it then feel free to pm me and let me know how much you would like for it, I have a lonely ct bp that would like a mate!

 

 

  On 1/11/2012 at 6:48 PM, nxn96 said:

  On 1/10/2012 at 9:27 AM, John the Monkey said:

  On 1/10/2012 at 5:10 AM, yamborghini said:

I used my jotter for my 3 hour English exam at the end of year 12 and it was fine. (come to think of it, I've used it for many long exams... ) I think they are good for long periods especially when writing furiously simply because of their lightness.

I don't get on with the thinness of the gripping area, personally - I think half an hour with a jotter is my limit.

The "thin" issue has always been my gripe about the International/Classic series; much like that with the Cross Century line- a very thin barrel that's not comfortable in the hand for more than a line or two. A very well made pen with nice balance, but not a satisfying long-term writer.

 

The "thin" issue is one of the things i love about the international/classsic, I have several of them and will soon be getting a thuya set dropping on my door mat I was never over struck on jotters though, even though i have about 20 of the things

[yamborghini]

I've never found thinness to be an issue. Guess I have small hands though so that may be why. Also I guess i did come from writing with regular pens before I finally got a jotter.

[lovemy51]

wonderful old jotter! i love these!

 

edited to add: i don't like the SS, just the plastic barrels!!

Edited January 24, 2012 by lovemy51

[adallak]

If someone wants to switch the barrels, pen and pencil barrels are INTERCHANGEABLE! Here is how to do that. The original instructions were corrected by me (climber): "I should add to the instructions how to switch the barrels that the retaining split-sleeve should be squeezed with tweezers. After you squeeze that sleeve the whole thing can be pulled out of the barrel.

 

You can remove the spring off the pencil's tip the same way (by squeezing the retaining split-sleeve) if you do not or cannot remove the spring inside the pen barrel you are about to switch to."

Edited March 13, 2012 by adallak

[Mike 59]

Hi All, Like most users on here, I have a few Jotters, and I always have a feeling that they are made to 3/4 scale, so once they are scaled up to 1:1, and made like that, all will be well !

The plastic barrel gives fairly good grip, but the thin diameter is tiring to use over longer spell of writing.

The clue is in the name; "Jotter", and fine for that.

The stainless steel barrel looks great, but maybe not so good to get a grip.

Saying all that, I carry a black one and a blue one more or less always, as I know they will write. As a basic, reliable ballpoint,

they are value for money, and I cannot remember a single time one let me down in any way.

Can't say the Jotter 'Flighter' pencil does much for me, but it does match the ballpoint, that's true.

But at least it has some style.

I can understand the idea of ranges, looks and price points, but sometimes I think it drags the whole idea down to a minimum that's difficult to understand.

Edited March 13, 2012 by Mike 59

[adallak]

A Jotter pencil with plastic barrel has become one of my favorites. Love the classic look and the quality!

[Mike 59]

I have what I believe is a '61' Flighter push-cap ball point, and it does look very much like the 'Jotter' Flighter.

Except that the 'satin' finish on it gives a very good grip and is so much better than the modern 'Jotter' Flighters.

( If this is not a '61' Ballpoint/Pencil set, I would be interested to know what it is.)

[NJP]

The jotter is certainly a good looking pencil for the price. I have the all metal version. I use it sparingly to make the occasional note. I have other pencils that I use much more but I quite like the fact this pencil has been around for such a long time.

[nxn96]

  On 4/12/2012 at 10:42 PM, Mike 59 said:

I have what I believe is a '61' Flighter push-cap ball point, and it does look very much like the 'Jotter' Flighter.

Except that the 'satin' finish on it gives a very good grip and is so much better than the modern 'Jotter' Flighters.

( If this is not a '61' Ballpoint/Pencil set, I would be interested to know what it is.)

I'm guessing what you have is a Parker 61 bp/mp set. The reason I say this is that what I have is a much similar set, except that my set has a double gold band around the cap-base. Based on what I can see from your photo, it looks as if the cap-bases of your set don't have the bands. My understanding is that the International had the gold bands, whereas the 61's had no such markings, much like the cap-base of the 61 fountain pen they were meant to be paired with.

 

At this point, I'll leave it to the more knowledgeable 61 folks to chime in; but that's what I know...