Disassembly Of A Montblanc 149

[dannytang]

  On 1/21/2013 at 10:37 PM, Tanner said:

I am looking to disassemble some of my 149's - can you tell me where to find the 2-pronged tool needed to remove the nib and also the cone?

thanks!

 

FPN member fountainbel makes/sells a tool for piston, not sure if he also makes a tool for the nib. I've also seen tools pop up on eBay from time to time, some are only for the piston (I got one of those) and some are for both the piston and nib/feed assembly.

[hari317]

  On 1/21/2013 at 11:04 PM, dannytang said:

  On 1/21/2013 at 10:37 PM, Tanner said:

I am looking to disassemble some of my 149's - can you tell me where to find the 2-pronged tool needed to remove the nib and also the cone?

thanks!

 

FPN member fountainbel makes/sells a tool for piston, not sure if he also makes a tool for the nib. I've also seen tools pop up on eBay from time to time, some are only for the piston (I got one of those) and some are for both the piston and nib/feed assembly.

He makes tool for nib also. Just ask for the correct tool. diffrent 149s need differently shaped tools, MB changed the case feeder design a couple of times.

[penmanila]

this leads me to ask--are modern (post-1990s) 149 feeds interchangeable? my 149 feed has a couple of chipped fins and i'd like to replace it without necessarily being year-correct, thanks!

 

 

  On 1/22/2013 at 12:07 PM, hari317 said:

  On 1/21/2013 at 11:04 PM, dannytang said:

  On 1/21/2013 at 10:37 PM, Tanner said:

I am looking to disassemble some of my 149's - can you tell me where to find the 2-pronged tool needed to remove the nib and also the cone?

thanks!

 

FPN member fountainbel makes/sells a tool for piston, not sure if he also makes a tool for the nib. I've also seen tools pop up on eBay from time to time, some are only for the piston (I got one of those) and some are for both the piston and nib/feed assembly.

He makes tool for nib also. Just ask for the correct tool. diffrent 149s need differently shaped tools, MB changed the case feeder design a couple of times.

[jar]

  On 3/12/2013 at 1:41 PM, penmanila said:

this leads me to ask--are modern (post-1990s) 149 feeds interchangeable? my 149 feed has a couple of chipped fins and i'd like to replace it without necessarily being year-correct, thanks!

 

I would imagine that the plastic 149 feeds are all interchangeable.

[Rowbo]

Not sure about all modern plastic feeds being the same: see this thread here

 

Note the recess for the nib in the scrap from image 11 in the OP - between 10 and 3 o'clock.

[humsin]

Anyone know where you can find the seal ring for the cap screw?

[jar]

  On 4/7/2013 at 6:25 PM, humsin said:

Anyone know where you can find the seal ring for the cap screw?

 

At Montblanc. There may be a Boutique near you and they should be able to replace it for a flat charge. Who knows, the flat charge might also include a good polishing.

Edited April 7, 2013 by jar

[jsph]

holy (bleep), dude -- what's that HAMMER for?!

 

("careful with that axe, eugene.")

[Pen Nut]

  On 4/20/2013 at 4:34 AM, jsph said:

holy (bleep), dude -- what's that HAMMER for?!

 

("careful with that axe, eugene.")

 

Perhaps to hit any Montblanc factory spy that pops in to see whats going on !!

 

On a serious note perhaps to use on a knock out block.

[diosrl]

Great pics, thanks for sharing!

 

I would buy an OBB and a F nib and change them from time to time while doing maintenance/cleaning on the 149.. MB is charging way too much for those services.

 

But, how do you put back the nib on the right position?

[Frank C]

I'm just going to post here in order to bookmark this page. I'm not trying to revive this interesting topic. But if I do, so be it.

[niksch]

  On 3/12/2013 at 1:41 PM, penmanila said:

this leads me to ask--are modern (post-1990s) 149 feeds interchangeable? my 149 feed has a couple of chipped fins and i'd like to replace it without necessarily being year-correct, thanks!

#9 nibs and feeds are interchangeable regardless of year of production. However, section assemblies have changed over the years, and that will add complexity to a restoration of a 149 with combination of parts from different production eras.

[RayCornett]

Great thread. I was removing the nib unit of my 149 tonight and the section itself loosened. I tried screwing the section back on and this is when I learned when I saw no threads inside the barrel end of the section but notches, it is merely held on by the nib collar when it is screwed in. I just hope people who see your picture with the section, nib, and feed on the nib block get the wrong impression of which end to knock the nib out from because you show the section "nib side up" with the notches

Edited November 5, 2018 by RayCornett

[Barry Gabay]

As recently as the early 2000s, (yes, I realize that isn't so recent) Montblanc encouraged the use of the pink bubble gum sealant for its authorized repairmen. Chuck Edwards at Fahrney's in DC used it regularly. Years earlier, Pierre Matel, head of Montblanc repair for North America at Koh-i-Noor, also used it.

 

I agree with my friend niksch that the feeds & nibs for 149s are interchangeable, but internal section construction can cause a problem. There may, however, be an exception with the feeds. I have come across a couple of plastic 149 feeds with a small triangular projection on the top of the end. It is for aligning a 14K nib which has a similarly shaped notch cut out of its tail. The nib's tail fits perfectly into the projection. This prevents the nib from being misaligned. For nibs without the notch, there can be some difficulty fitting the nib & feed perfectly. I recall once sanding the projection down flat, so that an older nib would fit perfectly with a newer plastic feed. I do not know if all plastic feeds have this projection. Don't have any to examine at the moment. Maybe the non-notched 14K nibs were for ebonite feeds and the notched 14K ones intended to match with plastic ones. The 14K nib was used for the last split ebonite feeds, and If I remember correctly, for the first plastic feeds. My memory fades by the day.

 

LATER EDIT: The feed shown in the original post is a plastic one without the projection. Its18K nib does not have the notched cut-out tail.

 

Will try to attach an explanatory photo. Fingers crossed.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Barry Gabay

[niksch]

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

[AndyLogan]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:03 AM, niksch said:

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

 

But we learn from these Niksch, we soak these info up like a sponge.

[RayCornett]

  On 11/5/2018 at 6:02 PM, Barry Gabay said:

As recently as the early 2000s, (yes, I realize that isn't so recent) Montblanc encouraged the use of the pink bubble gum sealant for its authorized repairmen. Chuck Edwards at Fahrney's in DC used it regularly. Years earlier, Pierre Matel, head of Montblanc repair for North America at Koh-i-Noor, also used it.

 

I agree with my friend niksch that the feeds & nibs for 149s are interchangeable, but internal section construction can cause a problem. There may, however, be an exception with the feeds. I have come across a couple of plastic 149 feeds with a small triangular projection on the top of the end. It is for aligning a 14K nib which has a similarly shaped notch cut out of its tail. The nib's tail fits perfectly into the projection. This prevents the nib from being misaligned. For nibs without the notch, there can be some difficulty fitting the nib & feed perfectly. I recall once sanding the projection down flat, so that an older nib would fit perfectly with a newer plastic feed. I do not know if all plastic feeds have this projection. Don't have any to examine at the moment. Maybe the non-notched 14K nibs were for ebonite feeds and the notched 14K ones intended to match with plastic ones. The 14K nib was used for the last split ebonite feeds, and If I remember correctly, for the first plastic feeds. My memory fades by the day.

 

LATER EDIT: The feed shown in the original post is a plastic one without the projection. Its18K nib does not have the notched cut-out tail.

 

Will try to attach an explanatory photo. Fingers crossed.

I have a 149 that is all 1990 parts but with a 14k 2 tone nib. Also, I am wondering if the pink stuff is available for purchase. However, having just disassembled the nib unit yesterday for the first time I replaced the pink stuff with silicone grease and somehow it seems to fill better.

[siamackz]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:56 PM, RayCornett said:

I have a 149 that is all 1990 parts but with a 14k 2 tone nib. Also, I am wondering if the pink stuff is available for purchase. However, having just disassembled the nib unit yesterday for the first time I replaced the pink stuff with silicone grease and somehow it seems to fill better.

Personally, silicone has worked for me too. However it is not a sealant, technically speaking, as I have learned from past conversations here. For sealant on pens that need it, I have used a mixture of rosin and beeswax. If you want the closest-to-OG pink stuff then a guy on eBay auctions it every now and then.

[RayCornett]

  On 11/8/2018 at 12:30 AM, siamackz said:

Personally, silicone has worked for me too. However it is not a sealant, technically speaking, as I have learned from past conversations here. For sealant on pens that need it, I have used a mixture of rosin and beeswax. If you want the closest-to-OG pink stuff then a guy on eBay auctions it every now and then.

I often have used a mix I made of rosin and castor oil. It was a recipe one of the vintage pen companies used if I recall. I ruined what I had left of the batch. I need to make more. I am just using the grease until then.

[praxim]

  On 11/8/2018 at 12:30 AM, siamackz said:

Personally, silicone has worked for me too. However it is not a sealant, technically speaking,...

Technically, silicone grease is a sealant. Unlike some alternative sealants, it does not have adhesive properties in the sense of gluing things together. It is also weak if not captured, e.g. by threads. Both binding and non-binding possibilities are consistent with the definition of sealant so it is normally best to describe whether one is merely seeking to impede the flow of moisture, or to bind stuff together (while impeding moisture), or simply to make things easier to move or take apart.