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I bough some NOS pens (brazilian Pilot pens) and one Koh-I-Noor... This Koh-I-Noor, has a red band near the end of the barrel... On this band, the inscription: KOH-I-NOOR RAPIDOGRAPH. Another inscription on the cap: MADE IN GERMANY...

 

Well... I know Rapidograph TECHNICAL pens, but when I open the cap (screw), I saw a fountain pen nib... Inscription: ROVER OSMIO.

 

The pen is a piston filler, with internal knob (under a blind cap).

 

Anyone knows anything about???

 

Tks in advance!!

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Some pics...

 

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc383/edulpj/Koh-I-Noor%20Rapidograph/SAM_1563.jpg

 

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc383/edulpj/Koh-I-Noor%20Rapidograph/SAM_1566.jpg

 

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Never seen one in my life. Interesting. Have you tried it out yet?

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Never seen one in my life. Interesting. Have you tried it out yet?

 

 

I've tried today. A VERY interesting pen... A medium/fine nib with a medium flow. A large ink "tank". Maybe a good school pen.

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Well... It isn't for sale, but I've find the truth...

 

It is a TECHNICAL fountain pen from the fifties. A pen designed by ROTRING and sold in two brands, Rotring and Koh-I-Noor. It isn't hard to find. The original "needle nib", may by unscrewed by hand (no tools) and changed by a fountain pen nib.

 

Good news: ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

The piston filler mech may be unscrewed without tools and is extremely easy to clean.

 

A real "frankenpen" with a big ink tank...

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I have a similar pen, some time ago they were quite easy to find in Mexico. I am curious to find out if they were specifically for the Latin American market... it could be but I do not know yet.

It is good to hear it works with Esterbrook nibs, also very common pens here... How was the original nib? Have you tried with it?

Regards, Ariel

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I have a similar pen, some time ago they were quite easy to find in Mexico. I am curious to find out if they were specifically for the Latin American market... it could be but I do not know yet.

It is good to hear it works with Esterbrook nibs, also very common pens here... How was the original nib? Have you tried with it?

Regards, Ariel

 

 

Rotring / Koh-I-Noor technical pens, aren't difficult to find. These were top technical pens. The original nib, was a kind of hollow needle with an internal axial needle valve. The write position is absolutely vertical.

 

I've bought some pens (brazilian Pilot's) and the Koh-I-Noor was sent as a gift. The "original" Rover Osmio nib (italian) is some scratchy and dry. I have two Esterbrooks and some months ago, I bought a #9668 nib to change and the #2668 was left out. The "frankenpen" become very good with the Estie nib...

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I have a similar pen, some time ago they were quite easy to find in Mexico. I am curious to find out if they were specifically for the Latin American market... it could be but I do not know yet.

It is good to hear it works with Esterbrook nibs, also very common pens here... How was the original nib? Have you tried with it?

Regards, Ariel

 

 

Rotring / Koh-I-Noor technical pens, aren't difficult to find. These were top technical pens. The original nib, was a kind of hollow needle with an internal axial needle valve. The write position is absolutely vertical.

 

I've bought some pens (brazilian Pilot's) and the Koh-I-Noor was sent as a gift. The "original" Rover Osmio nib (italian) is some scratchy and dry. I have two Esterbrooks and some months ago, I bought a #9668 nib to change and the #2668 was left out. The "frankenpen" become very good with the Estie nib...

 

I know they are technical pens, I have several in different sizes going from 0.3 mm to 1.2 mm (Rotring, Tiku and Rapidograph) but one, in black, which is also Koh-I-Noor ... that is why I was amazed it could interchange the nib... my question is still there, have you tried the original nib?

Regards, Ariel

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I know they are technical pens, I have several in different sizes going from 0.3 mm to 1.2 mm (Rotring, Tiku and Rapidograph) but one, in black, which is also Koh-I-Noor ... that is why I was amazed it could interchange the nib... my question is still there, have you tried the original nib?

Regards, Ariel

 

I acquired the pen with an italian nib, ROVER OSMIO (as seen in pics above). Scratchy and dry. The feeder's channel is so narrow...

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Well... It isn't for sale, but I've find the truth...

 

It is a TECHNICAL fountain pen from the fifties. A pen designed by ROTRING and sold in two brands, Rotring and Koh-I-Noor. It isn't hard to find. The original "needle nib", may by unscrewed by hand (no tools) and changed by a fountain pen nib.

 

Good news: ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

The piston filler mech may be unscrewed without tools and is extremely easy to clean.

 

A real "frankenpen" with a big ink tank...

I bent the tip of my Rapidograph 3060 when I was a kid and tried an OSMIROID sketch nib in it. A great combo that lives in my art pack and still gets used. These style pens are really built.

How can you tell when you're out of invisible ink?

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This is the pen fitted with the Esterbrook #2668 nib...

 

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc383/edulpj/Koh-I-Noor%20Rapidograph/SAM_1693-1.jpg

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ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

Well, almost. If the cap of the technical pen version has the cone shaped inner cap that it's supposed to have, the cap won't screw onto the barrel because the Esterbrook nib hits it. It's designed to seal around the technical pen nib to keep it from drying out.

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I hope the inner cap ist still there, it might have been taken out, someone modified the pen after all.

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ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

Well, almost. If the cap of the technical pen version has the cone shaped inner cap that it's supposed to have, the cap won't screw onto the barrel because the Esterbrook nib hits it. It's designed to seal around the technical pen nib to keep it from drying out.

 

Rapidograph DON'T HAVE an inner cap to seal around the nib. China ink, dries out with or without a dry inner cap.

 

Technical pens, have a "semi" inner cap where we put a piece of nylon foam. We flood the foam with three or four water drops. This is the only way to avoid dry out.

 

I've unscrewed the cap tassie to confirm and voila!!! The inner cap has a large enough diameter to accept the Esterbrook nib...

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http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc383/edulpj/Koh-I-Noor%20Rapidograph/SAM_1700.jpg

 

 

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc383/edulpj/Koh-I-Noor%20Rapidograph/SAM_1700.jpg

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Well... It isn't for sale, but I've find the truth...

 

It is a TECHNICAL fountain pen from the fifties. A pen designed by ROTRING and sold in two brands, Rotring and Koh-I-Noor. It isn't hard to find. The original "needle nib", may by unscrewed by hand (no tools) and changed by a fountain pen nib.

 

Good news: ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

The piston filler mech may be unscrewed without tools and is extremely easy to clean.

 

A real "frankenpen" with a big ink tank...

 

Warning! Be very careful about putting fountain pen nibs in these. The ones I have are Koh-i-Noor and they come with a more tapered cap. They will destroy the nib when you put the cap on and screw it closed.

On the plus side, the are easy to dismantle and the plunger unit is very well made. Better than than most others including Pelikan in my opinion.

I'm putting all of them up on eBay because I don't use them and my favorite one; the one with an ink window has come apart at the window section. They'll be good pens for someone who likes to make frankenpens.

stez

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Fountain Pens.

Senator 721 piston filler.

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Thanks for the insight Eduardo. I'm really pleased to also find that some Esterbrook nibs fit these very well built piston filling fountain pens. I first tried the type Koh-i-noor Rapidograph with the black plastic barrel, colored "cap jewel", and matching colored barrel ring. These section threads fit the Esterbrook nib threads, but the cap doesn't seem to fit over the nib - at first attempt. Your pen is definitely older than these fairly common Rapidograph pens, since it has a flat cap top, etc.

 

However, I had just one older K-I-N Rapidograph pen with the washer style pocket clip, where the very top of the cap unscrews just like yours (even though my cap is pointed rather than flat on top), and with the ink view section, so I also tried that one. I found that one of the "shorter" Esterbrook renew points fit this pen perfectly, and the cap appears to close just fine. Apparently the earlier Rapidographs had room for the "sponge" in the top of the cap, or had less of an inner cap, so the Esterbrook renew points have room to exist.

 

Nice find Eduardo. And thanks for publishing the apparent anomaly. I'll be doing a little more work ferreting out what works best, because I really enjoy how well these Rapidograph pens are made, and how easily they fill. They should make great (read that eccentric) pocket fountain pens!

- - - Happy Hunting, Jim

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Well... It isn't for sale, but I've find the truth...

 

It is a TECHNICAL fountain pen from the fifties. A pen designed by ROTRING and sold in two brands, Rotring and Koh-I-Noor. It isn't hard to find. The original "needle nib", may by unscrewed by hand (no tools) and changed by a fountain pen nib.

 

Good news: ESTERBROOK NIBS FIT PERFECTLY!!! I've tested a #2668 nib successfully.

 

The piston filler mech may be unscrewed without tools and is extremely easy to clean.

 

A real "frankenpen" with a big ink tank...

I have some older style Acetographs however I can not remove the points, they seem to be stuck, there are no edges that can be wrenched, I would love to remove the points to be able to clean them or replace them , any advice? are these points threaded like the later 60s/70s model ? Dave-O

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