Pelikan Blue Black Discontinued In The U. S.

[GouletPens]

Well, my heart's not exactly broken as I like wet writing inks anyway, but still, a heads up about this would have been nice. Sooner or later I'd like to hope that large pen companies will actually try to communicate things like this ahead of time, without us having to discover and investigate it on blogs and forums. Seriously Pelikan, just tell us what's going on, and we'll at least accept the decision you made. It's when you just discontinue stuff and don't give any indication why that it frustrates your loyal fans!

Edited May 23, 2011 by GouletPens

[corniche]

... buy it from an overseas supplier and import it yourself.

 

I guess many suppliers will not deliver to US, to avoid issues TSCA or seeing packages returned because they cannot be cleared at the custom.

 

Greetings Phormula,

 

You may have a point there; Quink Permanent Blue wasn't banned by the U.S. Federal Government- it just isn't distributed here. (You can special order it directly through Parker, however).

 

Good luck U.S. Pelikan blue-black fans; I'm glad I'm not one. ... Although, I do feel your pain.

 

All the best,

 

Sean

Edited May 23, 2011 by S. P. Colfer

[Black Rose]

I was lucky and was able to pick up a 62.5ml bottle of Pelikan BB today.

 

All of the 30ml bottles were gone and they only had 3 of the 62.5ml bottles left.

 

Wasn't able to confirm if the ban actually does affect us here in Canada, as the "pen guy" doesn't work weekends, so was not able to ask him who they get the Pelikan products from.

[piembi]

so what noodler's color, diluted or not, most closely resembles pel blue black? do I smell a contest??? maybe?

 

Don't think that will solve the problem.

 

Pelikan Blueblack is not loved because it is such a "beautiful, unique color" but because it has some properties that makes it perfect for certain pens that need a non-staining, well behaving/low maintenance, dry ink. Namely vintage German piston filler with ebonite feeds - and some others as well ....

 

Hope it will survive in Europe. At least I got three more bottles last Saturday to make sure that my vintage 400s will stay happy for a while

[watch_art]

Yeah, that's true. I loaded up my Deccan M1000 with the stuff this weekend and it is pretty nice.

[Phormula]

so what noodler's color, diluted or not, most closely resembles pel blue black? do I smell a contest??? maybe?

 

Don't think that will solve the problem.

 

Pelikan Blueblack is not loved because it is such a "beautiful, unique color" but because it has some properties that makes it perfect for certain pens that need a non-staining, well behaving/low maintenance, dry ink. Namely vintage German piston filler with ebonite feeds - and some others as well ....

 

Hope it will survive in Europe. At least I got three more bottles last Saturday to make sure that my vintage 400s will stay happy for a while

 

+1 it is a kind of ink that needs to be "married" with the pen, otherwise all you get is a greenish faded black.

 

Maybe we should change the title of the thread in "no longer imported into US", which, according to the available information, is what's happening, the ink is still alive here in Europe.

[RLTodd]

Just thoughts.

 

In the States, if one was really serious about this, they could write a letter to Private Reserve or Noodlers and ask them if they would/could duplicate the ink.

 

Or, if someone was really, really interested, they could reverse engineer the ink and start their own ink business.

[Silvermink]

Hmm. Maybe I should stock up just in case it affects Canada too.

[bwnewton]

I purchased two bottles from Pen City yesterday.

Just got my two bottles from Pen City today. Probably more than I'll ever use completely. I plan on gifting one bottle. It's a classic so I wanted to have one in supply.

[Sonnet]

Boo. Urns.

 

That's all I have to say about this.

[Black Rose]

Hmm. Maybe I should stock up just in case it affects Canada too.

The distributor in the US is the distributor for North American, so I would assume we are affected as well, since they would need to import it into the US in order to send it to retailers in Canada.

[FLJeepGuy]

A bit of Google-Fu turned up this site Rex Art. They're based in Miami, FL and it looks like they have the blue-black still in stock for $6.88 per 62.5ml bottle.

[Alohamora]

As of today, isellpens.com still lists the 30ml bottles. http://www.isellpens.com/ink.htm

 

What happens if you mix Pelikan blue with Pelikan black, do you get a reasonable facsimile of their blue-black?

Edited May 24, 2011 by Alohamora

[Black Rose]

If there is something in the Blue Black that means it can't be imported anymore, does that also mean that either the Blue or the Black also have it and are next on the list?

[tonybelding]

Pelikan Blueblack is not loved because it is such a "beautiful, unique color" but because it has some properties that makes it perfect for certain pens that need a non-staining, well behaving/low maintenance, dry ink.

 

You might give Monteverde Blue/Black (with ITF Technology™) a try. It's rather unsaturated and extremely dry. I hated it.

Edited May 24, 2011 by tonybelding

[piembi]

What happens if you mix Pelikan blue with Pelikan black, do you get a reasonable facsimile of their blue-black?

 

Short answer: no.

Long answer: I have tried this with Pelikan and with Waterman inks. The result is horrible rather boring. It is not a blueblack but some strange colour that is lacking the blue completely.

 

 

You might give Monteverde Blue/Black (with ITF Technology™) a try. It's rather unsaturated and extremely dry. I hated it.

 

That might be an option as plan C or D.

Due to good availability at local pen shops I would switch to Lamy Blueblack, MB Midnight or R&K Salix first. Since I have all those inks I hope this it will not happen

[Alohamora]

What happens if you mix Pelikan blue with Pelikan black, do you get a reasonable facsimile of their blue-black?

 

Short answer: no.

Long answer: I have tried this with Pelikan and with Waterman inks. The result is horrible rather boring. It is not a blueblack but some strange colour that is lacking the blue completely.

 

 

Did you try a 1:1 mix? I could see how the black would overwhelm the blue. I think I'd start with just blue, then slowly add a little black until the mix was dark enough.

[Bo Bo Olson]

With Pel Blue-Black out of the way, what ink will take up the mantle of Most Boringist Ink Evar?!

 

 

(_{hey, I *like* those boring inks, bub)}

 

 

Helps to read the small print.

 

I find it gave me 8 different tones, in 8 nibs on only two cheap copy papers. Used 2 nails, 2 regular flex, 3 semi-flex and a somewhat flexible/'flexi' nib.

 

I found the color I expected it to be was best on a regular flex Fine and a 'flexi' Fine. 9I guess wider nibs do better on better paper)

That was only a quick look test.

 

I expect when I run it through 15 nib with flex combo on 15 papers to be very impressed.

 

 

 

What no US lawyers here to start a class action suit?

 

I wonder if they will allow me to take in my Samsonite suit case with two hundred well packed bottles.

[Phormula]

What happens if you mix Pelikan blue with Pelikan black, do you get a reasonable facsimile of their blue-black?

 

Short answer: no.

Long answer: I have tried this with Pelikan and with Waterman inks. The result is horrible rather boring. It is not a blueblack but some strange colour that is lacking the blue completely.

 

 

Did you try a 1:1 mix? I could see how the black would overwhelm the blue. I think I'd start with just blue, then slowly add a little black until the mix was dark enough.

 

I agree, when I was a kid the only ink I could find was Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue and Black. Since I did not like Royal Blue (I am a fan of blue-blacks), I used to bu one liter Pelikan 4001 (it came in a plastic bottle, I remember) and add a small bottle of Pelikan Black. And then I was using the empty black bottle as carryaround ink bottle.

[piembi]

What happens if you mix Pelikan blue with Pelikan black, do you get a reasonable facsimile of their blue-black?

 

Short answer: no.

Long answer: I have tried this with Pelikan and with Waterman inks. The result is horrible rather boring. It is not a blueblack but some strange colour that is lacking the blue completely.

 

 

Did you try a 1:1 mix? I could see how the black would overwhelm the blue. I think I'd start with just blue, then slowly add a little black until the mix was dark enough.

 

I added black ink drop by drop (using a syringe) to a bottle of blue ink.

Unfortunately I was underwhelmed with the result.

 

There had been a thread suggesting to use brown ink instead of black ink months or years ago. I did a test run with Waterman and the colour was much nicer than the blue/black mix. Required a higher maintenance degree, too.

 

Another ok mix was Waterman FB and SSB (2:1 - 1:1) with some drops of black. I use this mix if I need something free flowing.