Waterproof Blue Ink Recommendation Please...

[fabri00]

Noodler's Prime of the Commons. An elegant bulletproof blue. But maybe only available in Britain.

 

I have it, but mine is not blue at all.

Is a greenish nlack.

[fabri00]

I have it, but mine is not blue at all.

Is a greenish nlack.

Nlack = black. Sorry.

[Sasha Royale]

I recommend that you allow "water-proof / permanent" inks to dry thoroughly. They bond to the fibers of the paper, and become inseparable. However, permanence (Is that a word?) is to the fibers, NOT the sheet of paper. Removal or destruction of the colored fibers will remove the ink.

 

One of the most useful protections, of an ink image, is a light rub of candle wax.

[LWJ2]

 

Liberty's Elysium is a beautiful, bright, pure blue... but, sadly, not waterproof.

 

Sorry, Tony -- you're correct in that it does stain a bit with water. However, it still remains on the page, albeit a bit smudged. It is resistant enough to cause erosion of the paper on which it's used before it's removed, so for my purposes, any attempts at forgery/alteration are thwarted. Good enough for me, YMMV.

 

Goulet Pens has a video that demonstrates it's qualities (about the middle of the page):

 

http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Libertys_Elysium_Ink_3oz_p/n20001.htm

[amberleadavis]

Check out some of the reviews. I would say that "water proof" is vastly different from water resistant. The most resistant to anything (including water, dirt and sunshine) is KTC. Still, KTC is not the color I use the most.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/INK/images/_nb_mediaFrames/56622012-02-25_drop_tkc.jpg

 

For me, even if the ink washes, if I can still read it, the ink is acceptable. Here is an example.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inklings/slides/2013-Ink_641c.jpg

 

Of these inks, several are "acceptable" under my standards: Waterman Mysterious Blue, Levenger Skies of Blue, Noodler's Benevolent Blue Badger and Organics Studios Boron (brown). However, these inks are not what I would consider "Water Proof".

[tonybelding]

 

Sorry, Tony -- you're correct in that it does stain a bit with water. However, it still remains on the page, albeit a bit smudged. It is resistant enough to cause erosion of the paper on which it's used before it's removed, so for my purposes, any attempts at forgery/alteration are thwarted. Good enough for me, YMMV.

 

I'm well aware of its qualities, and I like it a lot. Liberty's Elysium is one of the best blues out there. However, the original poster who started this thread (metwin1) asked for "an ink that is waterproof, that does not smear". That narrows things down a lot. Even my favorite Texas Bluebonnet emits a slight cyan halo when it gets wet, although it's faint enough to usually not be an issue.

 

The only true-blue ink I've used that is 100% waterproof is Noodler's Luxury Blue, although I'm not thrilled with it for other reasons. It really does tend to bleed a lot unless used on premium paper, like a Rhodia pad.

Edited December 10, 2013 by tonybelding

[The Ghoul Caligrapher]

Noodler Midnight Blue PLZ GOOGLE

[casualmerlinconstant]

I use to worry about the rain all the time and used bulletproof inks on all my notes. But after a while I just couldn't stand the chalky look of BP inks :/. Now I use any ink I like and walk through rain without an umbrella without any problems. It helps that my bag is plasticky so its semi waterproof. I have discovered that Diamine Florida Blue and Pelikan Edelstein Topaz are quite water resistant despite not being advertised as so. (They will stand up to a drop or two but probably not a 10 minute downpour)

[LWJ2]

 

I'm well aware of its qualities, and I like it a lot. Liberty's Elysium is one of the best blues out there. However, the original poster who started this thread (metwin1) asked for "an ink that is waterproof, that does not smear". That narrows things down a lot. Even my favorite Texas Bluebonnet emits a slight cyan halo when it gets wet, although it's faint enough to usually not be an issue.

 

The only true-blue ink I've used that is 100% waterproof is Noodler's Luxury Blue, although I'm not thrilled with it for other reasons. It really does tend to bleed a lot unless used on premium paper, like a Rhodia pad.

 

Point, Tony, again it's in interpretation -- my idea of an ink smear is "completely illegible" -- as long as I am able to make out what was written, I'm fine. If I were to decide strictly on water-proof alone, I'd be using a Rapidograph and waterproof India drawing ink; neither of which would work for the OP. I've never tried the Luxury Blue, I may purchase a bottle some time and see what it produces.

 

I'm slowly breaking out of my "black is the only ink" habit from years of medical practise.

[mhosea]

As I consider what I prefer at work, I think it is ironic that I have very little interest in the ink not being removable by some means, nor am I very concerned about legibility, generally, since most of my notes are of ephemeral interest even to me, but what I don't like is having some notes on my desk and having the slightest bit of water from condensation on a glass or what not lifting the ink off the page and moving it around, potentially getting on my hand and transferring elsewhere. It's not that I mind ink on my hand, but the ink stains on my hand are usually dry and won't transfer to anything else. There are few inks that solve the problem, but there are some. Unfortunately for me, I'm a chroma junkie, and premature nib dryout when uncapped is unacceptable. Between these two things, most inks are ruled out, and I consequently just ignore the issue and put up with the occasional mess. I think Namiki Blue probably comes the closest, but it's just one blue and rather a dull one at that. You can remove Namiki Blue from paper like it was never there with bleach. Poof! It's gone. But I don't care about that. I wish there were a vast array of blues with just its high level of water resistance.

 

I like Sei Boku a lot, but the color is just OK, or should I say "colors". Sei Boku is quite a different animal in a wet pen versus a dry pen, also different with a wet pen on absorbent versus slicker paper because of the pink sheen that gives it a purplish look when combined with the underlying color.

Edited December 11, 2013 by mhosea

[RobbW]

Forgot I responded in November. Yikes, OP was in March. Of 2011!! I need to check dates more carefully. lol

Edited December 11, 2013 by RobbW

[nomadhacker]

Forgot I responded in November. Yikes, OP was in March. Of 2011!! I need to check dates more carefully. lol

 

No worries. It's still a very useful topic.

 

While I'm here, I'd like to add in a mention of Organics Studio Accident Blue. It's a bright medium blue that shades towards turquoise and as a pigment ink is waterproof. Since I'm so fond of turquoise, I really like this one.

[agchristie]

Has anyone found a really waterproof version of the Noodlers Bad belted kingfisher? It is absolutely not smearproof or waterproof at all even with very fine nibs. However I love the colour as most other darker waterproof blues have a green tinge such as bad blue heron, legal lapis and other. I love these colours but in the last year I preferrred a nice royal dark blue like the bad belted kingfisher. But whenever I write my notes which I need to be able to read a few times I at one point manage to get a drop of water or simply smear them with my fingers even months after writing them originally (using a pilot XF nib!!).

[FLZapped]

 

Liberty's Elysium is a beautiful, bright, pure blue... but, sadly, not waterproof.

Odd, it is listed as semi-bulletproof on the Goulet site.

Edited December 14, 2013 by FLZapped

[amberleadavis]

If you need a completely waterproof blue, try Luxury Blue. It's very resilient.

[tonybelding]

Odd, it is listed as semi-bulletproof on the Goulet site.

 

That is exactly what they mean by "semi-bulletproof". Part of it (a lot of it) washes out, but part of it doesn't. So... It's a water-resistant "permanent" ink, but not waterproof as such.

[amberleadavis]

Has anyone found a really waterproof version of the Noodlers Bad belted kingfisher? It is absolutely not smearproof or waterproof at all even with very fine nibs. However I love the colour as most other darker waterproof blues have a green tinge such as bad blue heron, legal lapis and other. I love these colours but in the last year I preferrred a nice royal dark blue like the bad belted kingfisher. But whenever I write my notes which I need to be able to read a few times I at one point manage to get a drop of water or simply smear them with my fingers even months after writing them originally (using a pilot XF nib!!).

 

 

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inklings/slides/2013-Ink_754.jpg

 

 

I'm in the process of posting up a video of trying to wash out Lux Blue. I'll add a link when I figure out how to do it.

[SeeksAdvice]

Doesn't Lux Blue have a component that washes off? I know that the other "eternals" I've tested do. Fox Red releases a bright orange color, and Hunter released a green color very much fluorescent green highlighters. Almost wonder if the fluorescent components of those inks don't resist water. Is that one of Tardiff's schemes to show that the ink has been messed with? I.E. it is no longer flourescent?

Fox Red was much better than the pathetic "Empire Red," but lacks waterproofness.

[amberleadavis]

LuxBlue doesn't move. The warden inks shift with tampering, but Lux stays put with water. As for the fluorescent aspect, I've found it to be paper dependent. On some papers, I just can't see it with the little light that came with the ink. Other papers it shows up great. The lux blue in the bottle, however, always shows up with the blue light.

[SeeksAdvice]

I like Sei-Boku for a non-Noodler's 100% waterproof blue.

Polar Blue from Noodler's is 100% waterproof. It's also a PITA to work with. I know, I own a bottle.