Need Help To Id A Pelikan (?m400)With A Friction Fit Nib

[Conz]

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Hi, I got this as a M400 with the EF nib as seen in the picts. The thing is, I understand that very few of the M400s have friction fitted nib and this EF nib is not interchangeable with a West German M400 or the other M400s I have. And the watermelon barrel has no markings and cannot take M400 nibs either.

 

The pen works and writes fine, but which is it, you know?

 

Thanks in advance.

[WRob]

It looks like a vintage Pelikan 400 (so, possibly 1950s) to me, as opposed to a modern M400.

 

I've never seen the vintage 400 with an M400 nib, so I've always assumed that there's a difference in the treading of the fitting, or just in the size of the feed. Maybe someone else can help out?

[piembi]

IMO this is one of the first 1980s M400s. The binde is more colourful and does look more like a 1960s binde than like a modern one.

 

Having some of those very early M400s myself I can usually spot the difference. And yes, one of mine has a friction fit nib.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I have a '56 friction nib 400NN.

 

Could that be a '50 400? They too have that mistake.

Nope wrong feed....

 

It comes down to treating it like some other pen than a Pelikan...my 400NN has a slightly flexible/'flexi' OF that is Fantastic.

 

So I'm more than happy to live with that nib...as a non changeable nib.

 

Some Pelikan info.

 

http://www.ruettinger-web.de/e-pelikan-modell-souveraen.html

 

 

more Pelikan stuff

 

http://www.pelikan-g....com/index.html

 

Martin Lehman: Pelikan-guide

[christof]

To clarify the differences between the 1950's Pelikan 400 with friction fit nib units and the M400 from 1982 wich is part of this discussion here, have a look at THIS thread.

Edited February 24, 2011 by christof

[insanekamil]

time to ressurect this thread

I got this M400 Oldstyle with friction feed unit, i notice theres slight difference in comparison with M200 feed or other M400 threaded nib unit feed.

you can check the image here

Feed: https://imgur.com/e88oUb9

Feed (Top view): https://imgur.com/wjzqjdr

Top arch (M400): https://imgur.com/aBXLNkZ
Top arch (M200): https://imgur.com/PF7DJDS
Grip collar: https://imgur.com/swTJeuk

problem of restoring the pen is the friction fit are really loose (I can easily remove the nib unit like putting in audio cables) and the feed is much smaller so the nib collar also loose

Problem 1 (loose nib collar) : https://imgur.com/mwfRtLU

 

Problem 2 (when you put the two together): https://imgur.com/2vFGG3z

any idea how to fix this problem i can easily swap the feed but the top arch isnt fitted perfectly with the nib itself


Piston mechanism: https://imgur.com/zLHgKOs

[christof]

Sorry for answering late, but I think that something with your feed is wrong. The one that I had, looks different

 

Aufnahmen-337 by c_m_z, auf Flickr

 

C.

[cgreenberg19]

It looks like an early M400. Based on the logo I would say it's about 1960's era.