Edelstein Sapphire Or Pelikan Royal Blue?

[jotterius]

I am in dilemma whether worth buying the new edelstein ink or buy the pelkan royal blue. I want a vivid blue ink with no bleeding or feathering. What do you suggest me to do?

[Joane]

Jotterius, I haven't used either one but I'm also very interested in the answer to this because I'm curious about the performance/value of Edelstein ink.

[UncleNick]

I can't comment on the Edelstein but the Pelikan is a nice bold blue, I use it mostly in a Quo Vadis notebook and there is no bleeding or feathering. Feathering/bleeding is probably more paper dependent than ink dependent. The Pelikan also dries relatively quickly which is essential for my work notebook.

Nick

[MrsGouletPens]

I can't comment on the Edelstein but the Pelikan is a nice bold blue, I use it mostly in a Quo Vadis notebook and there is no bleeding or feathering. Feathering/bleeding is probably more paper dependent than ink dependent. The Pelikan also dries relatively quickly which is essential for my work notebook.

Nick

Honestly, the Edelstein Sapphire is not all that vibrant. It's a pretty 'soft' ink, not highly saturated. Pretty color (leans a bit purple) but not bold by any means.

 

Pelikan Royal Blue is one of the more popular Pelikan colors, but there are soooo many other royal blues othere there too. Here are a bunch of blue swabs to look at if you're interested in other brands: http://www.gouletpens.com/Swab_Shop_Blue_s/817.htm

[rogerb]

I found Edelstein Sapphire well-behaved but rather boring and gave it away.

I'd recommend Diamine Sapphire, or Baystate Blue(if you are feeling brave!).

I also liked Herbin Myosotis...used all mine.

[anaximander]

I've used both of the inks you mention and would recommend the Pelikan Royal Blue.

[Desfeuilles]

You should give J. Herbin's Éclat de Saphir a try. I don't think a computer screen does it justice—it's a beautiful, bright blue.

 

Christian

[fabrimedeiros]

I have Pelikan Royal Blue, but I don't like it, cause it's very pale, watery in my opinion. I prefer Diamine Sapphire Blue. Nice intense blue, medium saturation and well behaved. No feathering or bleeding on Rhodia-Clairefontaine.

 

Edited-added: I've never used Pelikan Edelstein Sapphire, but many here say that is just another blue, pretty, but nothing special. So I save money!

Edited January 29, 2011 by fabrimedeiros

[BobR]

And if you want a vivid, well-behaved blue ink with a purplish tone, try Aurora Blue. As it's made in Italy, it may be easier for you to find locally (or make an excuse for a quick trip there!)

[jgrasty]

Pelikan Royal Blue looks very nice in a wet EF nib, but with pens with broader nibs, the lack of saturation shows through. Pelikan Royal Blue is erasable with a Pelikan Super Pirat, so I always keep a pen inked with it.

[Bo Bo Olson]

On the right paper 4001 Royal Blue shades a bit.

It's a tad dry.

Waterman Florida Blue is close to the same color, but from the reviews I saw shades a tad less. It's a bit wetter.

I have Pelikan Blue Black, Black, Brown and Violet also.

I have green and some obsolete cartridges from Pelikan too.

 

They are completely different inks than the Edelstein inks. You need them. They are part of the traditional set of inks.

 

By me Noodlers is expensive I've got to pay import duties and transportation costs. By me living in Germany Pelikan is the cheapest ink around. It has always been so. It was good ink in the '60's and is now.

 

 

Edilstein is a 'soft' ink, one that shades. I like shading inks.

 

 

I have Jade that gives it's best results in a Narrow nib. For a while I had it in two F nibs one semi-flex and the other maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' OF.

Both those nibs did well. I'm sure I had it in a regular F. Too.

 

Topaz I have in a regular F, a semi-flex F. I just don't have any M or B or OB nibs free right now to finish looking at that ink.

I had a M nib that it looked good in, but because I got too many new inks all at once, the wider nibs are busy.

 

All of a sudden I got a lot of Turquoise inks. Lamy Turquoise, Waterman South Sea Blue; these two I got with in the last week to 9 days, Herbin Bleu Pervenche and Pelikan Topaz.

I have not tried Lamy Turquoise and Waterman South Sea Blue verses Herbin Bleu Pervenche and Pelikan Topaz.

 

 

I know SSB will stand up with the new inks...the question is how well.

Lamy needs a good paper, and is the turquoise color that all others are compared against. I fear I may have to hunt for a best nib and paper with that.

 

I see that I need to organize an ink folder.

I'm going to be working on something like that eventually.

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

One might consider Montblanc Royal Blue, which I consider to be one of the most 'under the radar' high performance Blue inks.

 

Not a screamer, but certainly engaging. It has enough range to be run at high density (wet pen / absorbent paper) without misbehaving, and does very nicely in pale tones to lower the gravitas. Shading can be encouraged or suppressed.

 

Bye,

S1

 

= - =

 

MBRBl Review: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/170617-montblanc-royal-blue/

Index of comparisons between nine other inks: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/196998-one-of-the-ten-blue-inks/

 

 

[sadiemagic]

Depends on your taste. If you want vivid, these are not inks that meet that description, IMO. I have both and they sit on the shelf, unused -- not saturated or vivid enough and -- to me, anyway -- feel dry to write with to boot.

 

Some people prefer a softer, more watery look to their inks - if that floats your boat, then these would be good for you.

 

If you want vivid and saturated, try Aurora Blue, Private Reserve American Blue, Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue, Diamine Majestic Blue, or Iroshizuku Asa-Gao.

[Joane]

Hi,

 

One might consider Montblanc Royal Blue, which I consider to be one of the most 'under the radar' high performance Blue inks.

 

Not a screamer, but certainly engaging. It has enough range to be run at high density (wet pen / absorbent paper) without misbehaving, and does very nicely in pale tones to lower the gravitas. Shading can be encouraged or suppressed.

 

Bye,

S1

 

= - =

 

MBRBl Review: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/170617-montblanc-royal-blue/

Index of comparisons between nine other inks: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/196998-one-of-the-ten-blue-inks/

 

 

MB Royal Blue has become my favourite blue. It's totally responsive. Very thorough review! Thanks!

[Bo Bo Olson]

""""Some people prefer a softer, more watery look to their inks -"""

Terminology is everything....watery ink...by some one who wants vivid monotone ink...and can't stand shading on account it's got to be some what watery to shade.

 

Pelikan Blue shades with the right paper and nib width and flex.

 

I did not notice that as noobie....now I got some papers I should try Pelikan Royal Blue again.

 

In that paper make or breaks a shading ink.....mono tone inks it don't matter more than likely...you can use dirt cheap paper any width or flex nib...after all it don't shade as is.

Basically from what I read....most mono tone ink folks like EF nibs or narrower. They complain often about F nibs bigger than Japanese.

 

I saw Pelikan compare well against Waterman Florida blue, a surprise compared to when I got here three years ago. But back then it might not be as scientific as now.

 

But MB royal blue looked real good in the ink reviews.

[PenTieRun]

Hi,

 

One might consider Montblanc Royal Blue, which I consider to be one of the most 'under the radar' high performance Blue inks.

 

Not a screamer, but certainly engaging. It has enough range to be run at high density (wet pen / absorbent paper) without misbehaving, and does very nicely in pale tones to lower the gravitas. Shading can be encouraged or suppressed.

 

Bye,

S1

 

= - =

 

MBRBl Review: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/170617-montblanc-royal-blue/

Index of comparisons between nine other inks: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/196998-one-of-the-ten-blue-inks/

 

 

MB Royal Blue has become my favourite blue. It's totally responsive. Very thorough review! Thanks!

Indeed! I highly agree. A very underappreciated ink.

[haziz]

Pelikan Royal Blue is a fairly intense purplish blue. Well behaved and overall an excellent ink. Highly recommended.

 

I have not used the Edelstein ink.

[sadiemagic]

""""Some people prefer a softer, more watery look to their inks -"""

Terminology is everything....watery ink...by some one who wants vivid monotone ink...and can't stand shading on account it's got to be some what watery to shade.

 

 

Hmmm, I don't recall saying anything like "can't stand shading" in my post. I like shading, and have some inks that shade (I love Iro Tsuki-yo especially); depending on the nib, even some of the ones I suggested will shade. And they are vivid as well.

 

Perhaps my choice of "watery" was imprecise? If so, my apologies, I meant no offense. Maybe Mrs. Goulet's choice of "soft" in her post might be better. My point was simply that the poster, who said he wanted a "vivid" ink, probably would not like either, because I don't know that either of these inks is "vivid."

Edited November 27, 2011 by sadiemagic

[vannesspen]

Depends on your taste. If you want vivid, these are not inks that meet that description, IMO. I have both and they sit on the shelf, unused -- not saturated or vivid enough and -- to me, anyway -- feel dry to write with to boot.

 

Some people prefer a softer, more watery look to their inks - if that floats your boat, then these would be good for you.

 

If you want vivid and saturated, try Aurora Blue, Private Reserve American Blue, Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue, Diamine Majestic Blue, or Iroshizuku Asa-Gao.

 

Vanness carries all of these brands and colors; the Iroshizuku is one of our favorites here at the store!

[Bo Bo Olson]

Sadiemagic

You were right.

I miss read. :embarrassed_smile:

 

 

Had I read the first post properly, I'd realized, he did not want a Pelikan product as is.

 

Bay State Blue is the way to fly for vivid.

Visconti has a very nice vivid blue too.

 

I do think one should have some shading inks, just like I think one should have a nice semi-flex nib too.