(teaching) Italic May Soon Be Illegal In The Usa

[donwinn]

...medicine, law, national defense, death, and sex. Some might want a larger or shorter list, but these are areas covered by professions, which are by definition not the pursuit of profit.

The trade association for the world's oldest profession would probably disagree...

 

There is a trade association for gardeners? Genesis 2:8 notes that God planted a garden, and put Adam into it, and later it is mentioned, prior to the fall, that Adam was given the task of tending the garden by God.

 

Donnie

[donwinn]

I'll I can say is ANOTHER POINT FOR HOMESCHOOL! I get to use any handwriting I want to!

 

One homeschooler points out here -- http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com --

"Even if homeschoolers are exempt from the national standards, we will still be affected by the standards. As I previously established, employment and training opportunities will be based on a child's performance on the standardized tests which are based on curriculum and 'soft skills.' Those that are without the credentialed diploma will be at a strategic disadvantage in college and career placement."

 

That would be a huge shift, about which I have no doubt the liberal agenda would be glad to put into place. Currently, Harvard, Georgetown, University of Chicago, Air Force Academy, and numerous other Tier One colleges accept home educated students, without the "credentialed diploma", and the 14th Amendment to the Constitution would come into play if the method of education was the object of discrimination.

 

Most recent statistics are that home educated students rank from 15 - 20 percentile points above government school educated students, and although I do not have the figures for the College Board SATs post 3 section/2400 maximum score, the SAT scores for home educated students are higher than government school educated students. Perhaps that is why some colleges and universities want to cease using the SAT. Several years ago the UC (University of California)system discussed dropping the SAT score as a factor in admissions because "It discriminates against low achieving students". That is a quote from a UC Berkely spokesperson. Silly me, I thought the purpose of admissions tests was to discriminate against low achieving students.

 

Donnie

[KateGladstone]

Re:

 

There is a trade association for gardeners? Genesis 2:8 notes that God planted a garden, and put Adam into it, and later it is mentioned, prior to the fall, that Adam was given the task of tending the garden by God.

 

Donnie

 

 

Actually, the oldest profession must be construction: because God constructed the universe out of chaos.

But -- wait! -- actually the oldest profession must be politics: because someone had to create the chaos in the first place ...

[donwinn]

Re:

 

There is a trade association for gardeners? Genesis 2:8 notes that God planted a garden, and put Adam into it, and later it is mentioned, prior to the fall, that Adam was given the task of tending the garden by God.

 

Donnie

 

Actually, the oldest profession must be construction: because God constructed the universe out of chaos.

But -- wait! -- actually the oldest profession must be politics: because someone had to create the chaos in the first place ...

 

 

Actually, the Hebrew (anglicized) states Tohu Mabahu, i.e., created out of nothing; spoke into existence. Profession is actually a societal construct, to describe what a human does; it does not apply to nonhumans.

 

Donnie

[Verbose]

They'll probably make writing with a pen illegal to solve the bad handwriting problem. Everything would be Times New Roman point 12 double spaced with one inch margins.

[wallylynn]

There is a trade association for gardeners? Genesis 2:8 notes that God planted a garden, and put Adam into it, and later it is mentioned, prior to the fall, that Adam was given the task of tending the garden by God.

Actually, the oldest profession must be construction: because God constructed the universe out of chaos.

But -- wait! -- actually the oldest profession must be politics: because someone had to create the chaos in the first place ...

Actually, the Hebrew (anglicized) states Tohu Mabahu, i.e., created out of nothing; spoke into existence. Profession is actually a societal construct, to describe what a human does; it does not apply to nonhumans.

I don't know what the oldest profession is, but I have had discussions on what constitutes a profession. We came to the conclusion that the distinguishing trait is payment (money, barter) . Otherwise, it's just a task, or hobby, chore, etc. Just because mom tells me to take out the trash doesn't make me a professional garbageman, just a garbageman. I doubt either God or Adam were paid. Therefore those tasks were not (yet) professions.

[KateGladstone]

Adam and Eve were paid, all right -- in barter.

In exchange for gardening work (and letting one tree alone), they got free room and board -- for as long as that lasted ...

[mstone]

Adam and Eve were paid, all right -- in barter.

In exchange for gardening work (and letting one tree alone), they got free room and board -- for as long as that lasted ...

The same is true of my six year old, but she's not a professional. :roflmho:

[Peter Pommes]

the eldest profession is obviuously banking, cause bankers create the earth with the flick of a pen...

 

The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again.

 

attr. to Josiah Stamp

[james0tucson]

Appoint people with ethics and critical reasoning ability to positions of authority in your school system.

Failing to do this, accept the consequences.

[johniem]

I'll I can say is ANOTHER POINT FOR HOMESCHOOL! I get to use any handwriting I want to!

 

Right on, 777!!

[Parse Error]

Problem is, as a high school student, I ONLY KNOW ITALIC!!!! (Italic style cursive, that is.)

[KateGladstone]

Problem is, as a high school student, I ONLY KNOW ITALIC!!!! (Italic style cursive, that is.)

 

Not all high school students know Italic -- or any form of handwriting.

I'd love to see yours.

[The Royal Pen]

They'll probably make writing with a pen illegal to solve the bad handwriting problem. Everything would be Times New Roman point 12 double spaced with one inch margins.

:roflmho: The title of this thread shoud be (teaching) Penmanship and writing May soon be illegal in the USA. Why? Because HWT is not penmanship, it's not writing. It's a mess of bloody symmetric scribbles that resemble letters.

[Renzhe]

Writing is a part of language. Keep writing your own language. It's your right. Don't let any script f*cker-uppers mess up your language.

[countrydirt]

I need to chime in. I am a public school teacher. I care nothing about HWT and know only what I have gleaned from this thread. However, here I am a month into school and I discovered that my freshman students CANNOT read cursive, let alone write it! I discovered this when I pulled some scientific mounted range plants - grasses and forbs - and began a unit on the identification of important range (grassland or wildland) plants). Each plant is identified with the name written in cursive on the back of the little frame the plants are in.

 

I had taken the class through a lecture/lesson with a powerpoint slide show using photographs of the plants and narrative information which they recorded dutifully in their notebooks. We then went to my lab classroom where I had the mounts laid out on tables. I asked the students to attempt to identify the plants and record their answers on a "key" and then turn the frame over and read the proper name of the plant. I was shocked to discover that fully 50% of my students could not read the cursive writing at all! Woe is me, I suppose they have not been able to read some of my "corrections" and feedback on their pages - although I primarily use italic.

 

I understand when my own 7 year old, early in the year 2nd grader, cannot read cursive writing. He is still working on letters; however it shocked me that my 15 and 16 year old 9th graders are baffled by this style of writing. I live and teach in a conservative farming community that is not prey to all of the educational whims that seem to pass by, but this observation truly concerns me.

 

I am not even sure that this post fits anywhere within this advocacy thread, but it is an honest observation about what I seen in my classroom.

[Crewel]

I need to chime in. I am a public school teacher. I care nothing about HWT and know only what I have gleaned from this thread. However, here I am a month into school and I discovered that my freshman students CANNOT read cursive, let alone write it! I discovered this when I pulled some scientific mounted range plants - grasses and forbs - and began a unit on the identification of important range (grassland or wildland) plants). Each plant is identified with the name written in cursive on the back of the little frame the plants are in.

 

I had taken the class through a lecture/lesson with a powerpoint slide show using photographs of the plants and narrative information which they recorded dutifully in their notebooks. We then went to my lab classroom where I had the mounts laid out on tables. I asked the students to attempt to identify the plants and record their answers on a "key" and then turn the frame over and read the proper name of the plant. I was shocked to discover that fully 50% of my students could not read the cursive writing at all! Woe is me, I suppose they have not been able to read some of my "corrections" and feedback on their pages - although I primarily use italic.

 

I understand when my own 7 year old, early in the year 2nd grader, cannot read cursive writing. He is still working on letters; however it shocked me that my 15 and 16 year old 9th graders are baffled by this style of writing. I live and teach in a conservative farming community that is not prey to all of the educational whims that seem to pass by, but this observation truly concerns me.

 

I am not even sure that this post fits anywhere within this advocacy thread, but it is an honest observation about what I seen in my classroom.

 

That is truly sad. It gives credence that some of the fundamentals are just going down the tubes. One would think that cursive writing should be a culture nurtured and preserved in the future generations.