Can Waterman Phileas Use Parker Quink Ink Cartridges?

[whiteOUT]

need help.... i got a waterman phileas and thinking if it is able to take or use quink ink cartidges??? anyone tried???

 

btw is there any ink cartidges that is compatible with the waterman phileas??? mont blanc ink cartridges is it compatible??

Edited July 20, 2010 by whiteOUT

[Dave S]

Erm...well, there's only one way to find out!

 

If you have an EMPTY Quink cartridge around, might want to fill 'er up with water and see if it leaks or not.

 

Considering the cost of a pack of Waterman cartridges, I'd say take the safe route instead! You can always refill them from bottles if you get a syringe.

Edited July 20, 2010 by Dave S

[whiteOUT]

 Erm...well, there's only one way to find out!

 

If you have an EMPTY Quink cartridge around, might want to fill 'er up with water and see if it leaks or not. 

 

Considering the cost of a pack of Waterman cartridges, I'd say take the safe route instead! You can always refill them from bottles if you get a syringe. 

 

true enough.... i can get a syringe to refill the empty cartidges...

[bdk]

If you really want to use Parker Ink I asssume that there is a converter available for the Phileas, so you can buy bottled Quinck...

[carlc]

need help.... i got a waterman phileas and thinking if it is able to take or use quink ink cartidges??? anyone tried???

 

The received wisdom is no, they are not compatible.

 

A converter or Waterman cartridges look like good ideas to me too.

[jar]

The nipple diameter of a Parker cartridge is much wider than the Waterman nipple. The Parker cartridge can be used as long as you want the body of the pen to become full of ink.

[whiteOUT]

icic......... thankz dude............

[LisaN]

My phileas cane with the converter. I've never used the cartridge.

And it's filled with quink

[whiteOUT]

anyone know which other ink cartidges brand is compatible with the waterman phileas?

[Ernst Bitterman]

Diamine and Herbin cartridges work fine-- the business end of the Waterman cartridges is the International pattern.

[USMCMom]

I was recently told that the Phileas uses the Waterman short cartridges. I have ordered some and hopefully, will work. I know the Phileas doesn't take the long cartridge and I know that it doesn't like the Pelikan short cartridges. Perhaps the Pelikan is isn't narrow enough.

[RMN]

The modern Waterman pens all have the international size connection. Most pens take the Waterman long cartridge. Or you could take any standard international size cartridge, put one in action and stuff one upside down as spare.

AFAIK Pelikan also has a long international cartridge (about 1 mm different from Waterman's), as well as standard ones.

 

Waterman used to have a proprietary size cartridge but changed many years ago. Although now part of the same company Waterman and Parker can not exchange inkcartridges.

 

Most independant inkbrands produce their cartridges as standard international size, such as the already mentioned J Herbin.

 

Fountainpen brands that use international size include Conway Stewart, Visconti, Cartier etc.

 

D.ick

[RLTodd]

No, if it has the brass fixture in the barrel.

 

Mine do.

 

With the fixture I am limited to Waterman long and Pelikan International Long cartridges.

 

Have not seen the Waterman Short cartridge, but thought they were for that small lady's pen they were making a couple of years ago (Ici n cie or something like that). However if anyone has successfully used them, then they do.

[USMCMom]

I have what appears to be a brass fitting in the barrel of both my Phileas pens, so they won't take the long cartridge. I tried a Pelikan (4001?) cartridge, but the barrel will not screw back on. I don't know if the Waterman short cartridges will fit yet, as they haven't arrived yet, but if they don't, then I'll have to use converter only, I guess.

[esterbex]

My Phileas with brass fitting came with long cartridges and the converter. They both fit and function perfectly. Why would they limit it to a short cartridge? :hmm1:

 

ETA: The Quink cartridges are too wide in diameter to fit properly and completely into the Phileas section and onto the feed nipple.

Edited July 21, 2010 by esterbex

[whiteOUT]

I have what appears to be a brass fitting in the barrel of both my Phileas pens, so they won't take the long cartridge. I tried a Pelikan (4001?) cartridge, but the barrel will not screw back on. I don't know if the Waterman short cartridges will fit yet, as they haven't arrived yet, but if they don't, then I'll have to use converter only, I guess.

 

my phileas come with long cartridges... so it should actually fit.........

[RMN]

I have what appears to be a brass fitting in the barrel of both my Phileas pens, so they won't take the long cartridge. I tried a Pelikan (4001?) cartridge, but the barrel will not screw back on. I don't know if the Waterman short cartridges will fit yet, as they haven't arrived yet, but if they don't, then I'll have to use converter only, I guess.

 

You might want to look if there is nothing stuck in the back of the barrel.

Ther might be a international short or something else stuck.

The Waterman shorts are the same size as the Pelikan 4001 short cartridges.

If such a cartridge (39 mm long) does not fit there is something seriously wrong.

 

 

D.ick

[USMCMom]

I have what appears to be a brass fitting in the barrel of both my Phileas pens, so they won't take the long cartridge. I tried a Pelikan (4001?) cartridge, but the barrel will not screw back on. I don't know if the Waterman short cartridges will fit yet, as they haven't arrived yet, but if they don't, then I'll have to use converter only, I guess.

 

You might want to look if there is nothing stuck in the back of the barrel.

Ther might be a international short or something else stuck.

The Waterman shorts are the same size as the Pelikan 4001 short cartridges.

If such a cartridge (39 mm long) does not fit there is something seriously wrong.

 

 

D.ick

 

I'll take another look and see. Thank you.

[USMCMom]

I double checked the barrel ... nothing else in there but the brass fitting. I found a box of "Waterman Large Standard Cartridges" and put one in my Phileas. The cartridge fit, but the pen won't write. It wrote beautifully yesterday with a converter. I rinsed everything well and the nib into shot glass with a wadded up paper towel. No ink showed up on the paper towel this morning.

 

I've tried 2 cartridges now and the pen would not write. Could it be the ink in the cartridges? I just filled a converter and put it into my Phileas. It writes beautifully. Could it be that this pen just doesn't like cartridges?? I suppose I could clean out one of the cartridges and refill it with bottled ink, but I sure hate that drying time wait. LOL

Edited July 21, 2010 by USMCMom

[esterbex]

I double checked the barrel ... nothing else in there but the brass fitting. I found a box of "Waterman Large Standard Cartridges" and put one in my Phileas. The cartridge fit, but the pen won't write. It wrote beautifully yesterday with a converter. I rinsed everything well and the nib into shot glass with a wadded up paper towel. No ink showed up on the paper towel this morning.

 

I've tried 2 cartridges now and the pen would not write. Could it be the ink in the cartridges? I just filled a converter and put it into my Phileas. It writes beautifully. Could it be that this pen just doesn't like cartridges?? I suppose I could clean out one of the cartridges and refill it with bottled ink, but I sure hate that drying time wait. LOL

 

Did you push the cartridge into the feed by pressing the end against a table top? It may not have seated completely onto the nipple. Try a bit of screwing action as well.