Changing nibs on a Sailor?

[OTDoc]

Are nibs on a Sailor Profit changeable in the same way as a Pelikan or do you have to send them to a nibmeister? I have a Sailor profit with a 21K H-F that I just got back from John Mottishaw. It writes well but is still too fine for my tastes. Recommendations?

[OTDoc]

Anyone know about this?

[Sandy1]

I've no idea. perhaps email Mottishaw. (?)

Then let the rest of us know.

I rather think not - otherwise there'd be nibs in the market, but I've yet to see any.

[tanalasta]

I remember emailing John Mottishaw to see if there was the possibility of buying just the nib unit (mind you, for the standard c/c pens as they are interchangeable) and he noted they were difficult to get out of Japan and that the only way to obtain a new unit was to buy the entire pen.

 

That doesn't directly answer your question, but even if the Sailor nib units were interchangeable, obtaining the nibs themselves may be hard. I absolutely adore my H-F 21k nib (and using a H-EF right now on a clairefontaine notepad as an aside)!!! Perhaps a free flowing ink like Aurora Black may help the H-F write just that little bit wider if you still think it's too fine.

Edited March 28, 2010 by tanalasta

[OTDoc]

I remember emailing John Mottishaw to see if there was the possibility of buying just the nib unit (mind you, for the standard c/c pens as they are interchangeable) and he noted they were difficult to get out of Japan and that the only way to obtain a new unit was to buy the entire pen.

 

That doesn't directly answer your question, but even if the Sailor nib units were interchangeable, obtaining the nibs themselves may be hard. I absolutely adore my H-F 21k nib (and using a H-EF right now on a clairefontaine notepad as an aside)!!! Perhaps a free flowing ink like Aurora Black may help the H-F write just that little bit wider if you still think it's too fine.

 

Thanks. It is a little too fine for me but not much. I tend to put pressure on my pens. Bad habit from ball points and that makes the nib feel scratchy to me. I had the same issue with a fine Pilot VP so it is me and not the pen I imagine. Is your H-F scratchy?

[tanalasta]

Sailor nibs should not be scratchy. Are you writing on good paper? Or as you say perhaps pressing too hard as the nib should just glide.

 

Smooth with wonderful feedback is how I describe my fine. Even my Extra Fine is not scratchy on clairefontaine paper. Seeing as you just got it back from a nibmeister I am quite surprised at your experiences.

[PinarelloOnly]

Thanks. It is a little too fine for me but not much. I tend to put pressure on my pens. Bad habit from ball points and that makes the nib feel scratchy to me. I had the same issue with a fine Pilot VP so it is me and not the pen I imagine. Is your H-F scratchy?

 

Most fine and especially extra fine nibs are not for people who are heavy handed and most definitely your nib will seem scratchy if you are.

 

This is even explained over and over again by Sailor nibmisters.

 

Most of us who own an array of differentiated pens especially with custom nibs adjust our writing according to the pen, this is what FP's are about on top

of pens that are "made" for our own writing style. You can't win with every pen if your not willing to work it.

 

You really should "learn" to write with the Mottishaw nib rather than ditch it because you don't want to adjust your writing habit or go into stiff nibs with

med. points for your heavy hand.

[OTDoc]

Sailor nibs should not be scratchy. Are you writing on good paper? Or as you say perhaps pressing too hard as the nib should just glide.

 

Smooth with wonderful feedback is how I describe my fine. Even my Extra Fine is not scratchy on clairefontaine paper. Seeing as you just got it back from a nibmeister I am quite surprised at your experiences.

 

When I lay off the pressure some and just let it glide on the paper it is much better. It still has a little feedback as you noted but it is not unpleasant. I will work with it this way and see if I enjoy it more. Thanks!

[OTDoc]

Thanks. It is a little too fine for me but not much. I tend to put pressure on my pens. Bad habit from ball points and that makes the nib feel scratchy to me. I had the same issue with a fine Pilot VP so it is me and not the pen I imagine. Is your H-F scratchy?

 

Most fine and especially extra fine nibs are not for people who are heavy handed and most definitely your nib will seem scratchy if you are.

 

This is even explained over and over again by Sailor nibmisters.

 

Most of us who own an array of differentiated pens especially with custom nibs adjust our writing according to the pen, this is what FP's are about on top

of pens that are "made" for our own writing style. You can't win with every pen if your not willing to work it.

 

You really should "learn" to write with the Mottishaw nib rather than ditch it because you don't want to adjust your writing habit or go into stiff nibs with

med. points for your heavy hand.

 

I generally do prefer the mediums and nails when it comes to the Asian nibs but I do want to learn how to write with different pens. I like being able to write in the margins of books and underline without bleed through with this sailor. I was "spoiled" by some very smooth rollerball and gel ink pens before I got into fountain pens and expected the FPs to write in the same way with more smoothness every time. I am learning that "feel" and variation is part of the game. Thanks for the advice.

I really have to get to a pen show sometime to learn on site from the experts.